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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    This one Greg ?
    The 12 footer ?
    almost Peter, add another pair of feet, the 14' version:

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    Looks nice Greg

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    [QUOTE=auscruisertom;4115964]
    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Not yet. They're for interior trimming but I'm still working on the exterior.

    Not this silky oak Jeff, this is the grevillea variety. The silky oak used for furniture etc., and in boats, is cardwelia. The grevillea is lovely wood but I don't think it would be durable.

    Hey Rick I am just finishing a shelf for WB with above described SO ,the wood felt rather oily also has small red veins running through it. Does this sound like what you are using. Cheers Tom
    Grevillea silky is a lot lighter in colour than cardwellia - the grevillea does often have pinkish veins. The grevillea can be very light when freshly cut; almost white in sections, with a pinkish tinge, and quite distinct bands of different colours. The cardwellia is much more consistent, light brown or honey in colour. I'd think that either would be fine for interior furniture in a boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auscruisertom View Post

    Grevillea silky is a lot lighter in colour than cardwellia - the grevillea does often have pinkish veins. The grevillea can be very light when freshly cut; almost white in sections, with a pinkish tinge, and quite distinct bands of different colours. The cardwellia is much more consistent, light brown or honey in colour. I'd think that either would be fine for interior furniture in a boat.

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    While we're on the topic of wood ....... I'm after a whole lot of boards of some fairly darkish wood, i.e., not radiata. They'll need to be dry, at least 100mm wide, but they could be quite thin - 5mm +, but thicker is good. Length doesn't matter, as long as they're at least 500mm. I don't really care what species.

    Please let me know if you hear of anything!

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    The rowboat looks great Greg! Nice project!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    almost Peter, add another pair of feet, the 14' version:

    Great Greg, I hope you record the build as well as you did for the last one ! I'll be watching .
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post

    Keep the humidity down !!
    There are people who think it's good to have water in the bilges ....... they're idiots!

    Humidity is always bad in a boat but your point is a good one; both varieties of silky are prone to go mouldy. It's a bit more obvious in the grevillea.

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    Last edited by RFNK; 04-02-2014 at 05:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    Where is the best place to get a chart , or charts , describing the woods used in Australia ?.
    Regards Rob J.
    This one is pretty good http://www.thewoodworks.com.au/index...hk=1&Itemid=91

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    DRAGON ALERT
    Not that I need another boat, but this one looks very interesting because of its unadulterated state.
    Has its original coachhouse with bunks, nice bronze ports, and a dearth of blocks, jammers, tweakers and associated bits of string that plague and clutter the modern Dragon. Cheap too, if such as a cheap wooden Dragon exists.

    Full listing here:






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    [QUOTE=RFNK;4116613][QUOTE=auscruisertom;4115964]

    Grevillea silky is a lot lighter in colour than cardwellia - the grevillea does often have pinkish veins. The grevillea can be very light when freshly cut; almost white in sections, with a pinkish tinge, and quite distinct bands of different colours. The cardwellia is much more consistent, light brown or honey in colour. I'd think that either would be fine for interior furniture in a boat.

    Thanks Rick that explains my messing around with various stains trying to match the existing silky oak table. Finally I ended up mixing up a small batch of tinted varnish, and that came reasonable close.

    Regarding the wood you are looking for wish I'd known. I just missed out on about 800+ m of 140 x 8mm dressed flooded gum for 400 dollars I needed to split the package due to storage problems. I guess I should have listened to Nellie when she suggested I build a larger boat shed. Cheers Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    Where is the best place to get a chart , or charts , describing the woods used in Australia ?.
    Regards Rob J.
    Hey Rob as we head of into the scrub with our Australian Wood Guide in one hand and chainsaw in the other.
    Next time your out sailing check the make of your furler. Thanks Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    I'll try my best to find out the furler make Tom.
    In regard to timbers , it is for a recycling business , being able to recognise what timber is what.
    Regards Rob J.
    A better, or more comprehensive one might be Bootle's, Rob. It's sort of the bible for Australian timber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    I'll try my best to find out the furler make Tom.
    In regard to timbers , it is for a recycling business , being able to recognise what timber is what.
    Regards Rob J.

    I recommend starting a sample collection Rob, it can take a bit of time to learn the name of everything that comes along .

    Greg, Bootle is the bible but there are no photos of grain in my edition. At one stage I had a folder of available veneers from some manufacturer, it was brilliant for those unusual bits and pieces .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    I'll try my best to find out the furler make Tom.
    In regard to timbers , it is for a recycling business , being able to recognise what timber is what.
    Regards Rob J.
    Thanks Rob don't stress if you cant. I am unable to get a manufacturer name of my staysail furler either. Since I have made up my mind to keep of the pitching foredeck, it will be good to know what to look for on E bay. The Yankee is only about 100 square feet, which is probably not far of your measurements.

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    I saw this article in Stuff and thought of Rick. I know he loves these things.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9899...sed-on-islands


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    I bought a handheld VHF radio. Cheap enough that I won't be devastated if it's only good for fishing grounds, and the time comes you have to stop procrastinating. GME GX620, not immersible, 1 & 5 watts, all the channels, car charger so the boat battery can top it up if necessary, but unlikely to be needed for short trips. We have a repeater station here on ch 80 and I've just done a quick PTT test and yes it sees and is seen by the repeater from home. I'll finish reading the instructions then go for a listen in a little while at the end of the street and see if there is any chatter in the gulf.

    I've also got a copy of the Marine Radio Operator's Handbook so I'll be looking for an invigilator some time soon to witness me doing a written test.
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    invigilator !!! I had to look that one up !

    inarticulate on Tweed.
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    Thanks JB, those things really are impressive! I wonder what brave soul owns the hand?

    Bootles is a really good book but not much good for identification. Even the books with colour plates, such as the one I suggested, are not really good for identifying some wood though, as there's so much variation.

    I just contacted the mill in Bulahdelah, as I've been waiting for 6 weeks for 300m of 25 x 100 blue gum to come out of the kiln, and they're saying they forgot to save my 300m from the moulder last week! So annoying! Anyone know where I can get about 300m of anything dry? Doesn't have to be blue gum, but a brown to dark brown would be most suitable. Grrr!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    invigilator !!! I had to look that one up !

    inarticulate on Tweed.
    Oh come on Peter, any idiot knows it's a thing for stirring grease! Or sexing geese .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    I saw this article in Stuff and thought of Rick. I know he loves these things.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9899...sed-on-islands

    The Stuff article says they weigh as much as a sparrow! How the @@@@ do you weigh a sparrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris. View Post
    DRAGON ALERT
    Not that I need another boat, but this one looks very interesting because of its unadulterated state.
    Has its original coachhouse with bunks, nice bronze ports, and a dearth of blocks, jammers, tweakers and associated bits of string that plague and clutter the modern Dragon. Cheap too, if such as a cheap wooden Dragon exists.

    Full listing here:


    Wow! Pretty much a perfect Dragon, Chris! Just beautiful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Oh come on Peter, any idiot knows it's a thing for stirring grease! Or sexing geese .....

    Rick
    Preferably the first first ,

    goose on Tweed .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    Thanks Greg , I'll advise Adam of the Bootle book.
    And Peter , having a display of woods is a good idea.
    Especially for Adam's new employees , who mostly would have no clue.
    Rob J.
    Rob , would you like named contributions from everyone ?
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    Little samples, say 100 x 50 x 5mm would be sufficient Rob, they should be light in the mail. I'll check through my stash and get back to you.

    I saw Adam's site and I admire his enterprise and the form it's taking.

    Quite a bit of our East coast timber will be pretty rare in the West .
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    I remember years ago in Alice Springs the TAFE woodworking teacher showed me his stash of timber, he a large stack of teak planks that he said had been shipping pallets.
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    Fingers crossed, picking up plywood tomorrow.
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    What is the cost of a drowning?
    In 2011 the NSW Drowning Report, the Royal Life Saving Society pointed to a number of studies examining the lifetime cost of a drowning death. These showed a death due to drowning came at a cost to the community of between $370,000 to $610,000. If we take the average of $490,000 and apply it to the period 2003-2012 during which 103 drowned in NSW we get a cost to NSW of $50.47 million dollars. Over 90% of those fatalities were not wearing life jackets.
    MRNSW stats for 2013 show voluteers responded to 3302 call outs of which 979 were life threatening. Assuming one person per boat and we know in many cases there would have been more than one onboard we get a saving to the NSW community of nearly half a billion dollars. The total budget for MRNSW in 2013 was $14 million...$7.4 million came from state coffers.
    Just thought you guys might find that interesting.
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    had a call out last Saturday arvo from a guy that was on the beach about 500 metres away...it was cancelled.
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    Just a little excessive Rob.
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    Way too much like a 'Gin Palace' for a knock about like you Rob. Just think how much champagne you'd have to load on board for ballast!

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    Sat at the end of the street tonight listening to the volunteer coast guard at American River, Kangaroo Island, read out the weather forecast over VHF, through the repeater channel.

    It looks it should be OK weather-wise so hoping to get out along the beaches tomorrow for a couple of hours or so, beating up into a SSE at slack tide and riding the wind coming up as the tide pushes us home in the early afternoon. Taking my brother and my niece for a quick splash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    A real indulgence . http://mdbsaustralia.com/boat-for-sa...trawler/126060 .
    I reckon the boat would easily see me out !.
    Except I wonder what it is like in big seas.
    Rob J.
    converted trawler, I reckon she'd handle them pretty nicely
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris. View Post
    DRAGON ALERT
    Not that I need another boat, but this one looks very interesting because of its unadulterated state.
    Has its original coachhouse with bunks, nice bronze ports, and a dearth of blocks, jammers, tweakers and associated bits of string that plague and clutter the modern Dragon. Cheap too, if such as a cheap wooden Dragon exists.

    Full listing here:





    Thats a nice looking boat, can't be many around in the original configuration.

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    Did he want you to bring some fuel ?.
    Rob J.
    I think he wanted a tow. I had the boat ready to put in the water and we got a call to say it was cancelled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    Well , I thought I'd ask Greg , as I know a lot roll badly , and have big paravane stabilizers to slow things down a bit.
    I guess there would be only one way to find out for sure !.
    Take her out for a test run on a rough day.
    Regards Rob J.
    From my experience the Qld sharpie trawlers didn't roll as much as the round bilge versions, they were a bit slower too I'd say.
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