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    Here is one in unbelievable condition , just look at the Gardner ! http://yachts.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=211144 , and $106,000 Aust !.
    A bit flash for me , and big , but a nice boat , just the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    Here is one in unbelievable condition , just look at the Gardner ! http://yachts.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=211144 , and $106,000 Aust !.
    A bit flash for me , and big , but a nice boat , just the same.
    Regards Rob J.
    Gawd !! What a ship ! I don't think I could afford to maintain her if she was given to me but isn't she magnificent !
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    I was down by the Tweed today and saw my favourite motor boat again. She's the kind of thing I'd be looking for but she might be a bit humble for Rob. About 30 or 32 feet I'd say.





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    She is a nice little boat Peter , yes , she would be good .
    But I'd like to have something that I could sail , a motorsailer type.
    That other boat is the other extreme , beautifully done , but wasted on me .
    It needs a family to cruise it around the country or something , it would be awesome for that.
    There is a boat out there for me , having a humble beginning , a fishing or lobster boat that has been designed to sail a bit , that I can troll and fish from.
    Regards Rob J.

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    She never seems to go far either.

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    http://translate.google.com.au/trans...26prmd%3Dimvns .
    The broker dealing with the boat in post 62 has put more photos up , gee , thats a serious bit of kit !.
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    Some good photos there Rob.



    Like the English translation as well.

    Classic boat. Built in 1915 by Lyngør shipyard at Larvik, Norway. Main renovated in 2006 in the shipyard. Have sailed under blah. German & Schweizsist flag. A rarely offered & great vessel. Are approved for operation on all the World Garden. The ship is in good condition & fully equipped. New teak deck in 1999 & new engine in 1990 with 4000 hours of operation. Currently reside. Florence & eagerly awaiting its new owner. A good example of that adventure in the world, we must just go out & take hold of it! It did not come & knock on!

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    These boats seem to have a lot of windage and weight up high.


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    Rufus ,that's what I don't like about them. I spent one night under anchor years ago (I've mentioned before)in Princess Charlotte bay in FNQ.The other boat had a large superstructure and dragged horribly. I'd like to be able to reef and reefing a superstructure can't be done.

    I don't see why you need a huge top structure just because you have a big engine .
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    Yes , google can turn up some horrendous translations rufustr .
    The wheelhouse is aluminium , so it wouldn't be that heavy , but still the boat has a lot of sail , and high up , so they would be "interesting" in gusty winds.
    I can just imagine laying the boat about like that when the old chook was in the hot tub , I don't think I'd be very popular !.
    But at the end of the day , its just too big for me to be able to troll from on my own , probably , even motoring , it really needs a crew.
    I reckon it would suit a family though .It is extreme broad , and there is quite a lot of room , for her length.
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    This is one of my favourite study plans.

    From Tad Roberts.

    http://www.tadroberts.ca/services/sm...nt/johnsonde28


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    My mate Mike just sent me this.

    TASMANIAN CRAYFISHING SONG

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=SG&f...&v=xALzhFT7O6o

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    Yes , a nice boat rufustr , but I like this one better http://store.devlinboat.com/kokanee36.aspx .
    But the reality is I can't afford the money or time , to have a boat like this built , I have to find what is already available , at the right price.
    I know I mention his name a lot , but blokes like Bernard Wilson built strong sensible boats that can and do motor , or sail . That is exactly what he built for himself !.
    There are , or have been a lot of boats of this type built in Tassie , and Sthn Victoria.
    The Scandinavians built a lot , and also in Nth England and Scotland.
    Have a look at this little beauty. http://www.findafishingboat.com/larch-on-oak/DB35784 .
    I'm sure Garry Stewart could set her up nicely , with a little gaff rig.
    Regards Rob J.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvcAm...eature=related is Garry Kerr , from Portland.
    I have a DVD of his , showing him sheltering off an island down Tassie way in 70 knot winds (IIRC), and a little local boat , about 30 foot goes through on his inside !.
    Local knowledge of course , but that little boat was really bobbing around.
    Regards Rob J.

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    The Scandinavians built a lot , and also in Nth England and Scotland.
    Have a look at this little beauty. http://www.findafishingboat.com/larch-on-oak/DB35784 .
    I'm sure Garry Stewart could set her up nicely , with a little gaff rig.
    Regards Rob J.
    How much would a boat like that cost to ship Rob ? Have you done any numbers ? I wonder what the boat would fetch ?...she's POA. I can envisage a very nice rig on here and have a Classic Boat article somewhere with a similar conversion.
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    Yes Peter , I have done the numbers.
    About $28-30,000 Aus , without even trying , for transportation to Portland.
    The other boats advertised on that site are asking around $40,000 for similar boats.
    And then there are government charges etc , the cost of going over and seeing the boat , etc etc.
    And thats before Garry gets started.
    She could be the ideal boat , very easy to get around , and work on etc etc , but you are probably looking at $100,000 + , by the time you are finished.
    Speaking to a boat broker from the area , he said that they are in recession , and its very much the buyers market.
    I suspect though , that there are buyers out there , hunting for the better fishing boats . A lot are apparently going to places like Sth Africa .
    Whether this boat qualifies as a better fishing boat , or just desireable for fools like me , I don't know.
    But if you watch the markets (which I have) the better boats are snapped up immediately.
    This boat hasn't been .
    Kamada was advertised for $80,000 , and snapped up immediately.
    But she was spot on , ready to go.
    I can see myself on "Morning Star" , with a little gaff rig , yep , I'd be happy.
    But whether she is worth the effort , with the other boats around that are for sale, well I dunno.
    Regards Rob J.

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    The little boat I posted earlier would be an easy enough conversion. She would probably run a 60 hp diesel but less would be adequate. An aft wheel house seems preferable on a motor sailer as you can sit inside and keep an eye on things .I wonder how much work would be involved in shifting a house back .It's something I think I could do without vast expense as long as the control modifications were simple.

    Do you have a top number in your budget for this project ...just so we don't post too much pie in the sky ?
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    A bit of bad news: John Little won't be making it up here for early January as his car will be too heavily laden to tow a boat. He and his wife are going to do the grey nomad thing for a bit. But he expects to be up here sometime within a twelve month timeframe with the Salty Heaven in tow.

    Having said that Rick is still coming up sometime to fetch his timber!
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    That little boat you put up Peter I'd leave just as she is , she would be great for fishing , particularly in rivers and estuaries in summer. A reliable diesel , and you would be set.
    As to cost , I reckon a Kamada is good value , at $80,000 . Thats what they asked this time , and thats what they asked a few years ago.
    I could pay more , if I was getting real value for money.
    But you know some of the Scandinavian wooden boats are ridiculously cheap , and all of the work is done , even with the transport costs , they are cheap.
    And there are some cheap boats in Tassie.
    My criteria is.
    Ideally 28-30 ft , but certainly under 10 metres , because of current insurance requirements in Portland Harbour.
    Wood , of course.
    An aft wheelhouse , with easy access all around the wheelhouse , for trolling.
    A gaff rig , probably gaff cutter , with appropriate winches and self furlers , lazy jacks etc.
    Something like a Gardner would be nice.
    A flat , clean deck , nothing to fall A over Z over.
    A hull form built to sail a bit .
    Nice and clean behind , nothing to foul lines etc , when trolling and tacking.
    Just a sensible boat , no frills , just a time and motion study , easy to operate , easy to fish and troll from.
    And able to handle a bit of weather.
    Regards Rob J.
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    I like this clip.

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    To be honest , I'm not a fan of the bricks they call fishing boats these days , ploughing through the water.
    I prefer the original Colin Archer type boats.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA7zZQVPayY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0olEb...eature=related .
    Boats that sail on top of the water , not through it.
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    I don't! It's freakin' scary and it's Russian and looks like it was somewhere in the Bay of Biscay... What's the Oz connection? Thread drift Gary! Thread drift!
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    Oh , um , Colin Archer was an Aussie sheep farmer for a while !.
    And he influence a lot of Aussie boatbuilders , for many years to come !.
    Rob J.

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    Sorry Rob! Cross posts: I was referring to Gary's big ships, modern trawlers and lighthouses in storms.

    I know Archer was a sheep farmer in Queensland for spell. You've seen my Erica design thread haven't you?
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    I knew you weren't referring to me Duncan.
    Yes , I did stick my nose in to your thread ages back , it looked to me like you were aiming to design and build a real sail boat , to suit you.
    I've already got me a good sail boat , but I'm aiming to go the motorsailer route , done right it should keep me trolling under sail a lot longer.
    And I won't be building anything .
    Good for you though , I hope you take it through to completion.
    Regards Rob J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs View Post
    I don't! It's freakin' scary and it's Russian and looks like it was somewhere in the Bay of Biscay... What's the Oz connection? Thread drift Gary! Thread drift!
    It was youtube drift, one minute you're watching bad weather and cray boats off SW Tassy and next minute you're watching scary weather elsewhere.
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    The rock at 1:50 in the crayfishing vid rejoices in the name of "The Big Kathleen". You get a nice ride going through between that and the mainland into Davey. It's not all that wide and the swell kind of lifts a bit as it goes through. To be frank, on my first trip through there I wondered if the skipper knew what he was up to.

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    There is nothing like experience !.
    In the DVD I have made by Garry Stewart in that area , thats the comment Garry makes , that the skipper of the little boat had the advantage of local knowledge.
    He was bobbing around like a cork , but he made it !.
    Rob J.

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    Good idea for a thread Rick-hope some new blood comes along.Rob, for Chrissakes buy a boat mate!!
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    Phil , are you going to build the Puffin in PNG ?.
    And yes , I want to buy another boat that allows me to get out on the water more.
    Regards Rob J.

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    Hi Rob, yes thats the plan. We have a container of stuff coming up, due Wednesday. Including 3 sheets marine ply and about 4 litres of epoxy.

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    II'm not sure I like this thread. Why exclude the rest of the world from your boat activities. If this thread had existed in the days of the mighty Pippin, us not Ozzies might never have seen it.

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    Good stuff Phil ! , yes , that would be a productive way to use your spare time.
    I can't recall seeing your boat at Franklin when we were there last month , is it upstream from the WB school?.
    Regards Rob J.

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    Thanks Phil. Sounds like you're settling in up there! Nice shots of your boats! Plenty of great wood to use where you are too!
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