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    That's a very large valve he's fitting to a Morgan.

    Speaking of Morgans... I went past one near here the other day. A very sweet young thing was driving.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    Greg , yes , Juliene is probably the bench mark on the Aussie boats.
    She has it all , a Bernard Wilson double ender , a 5LW , the right deck , everything.
    They were asking a lot of money , and she was on the market for a long time , but after her exposure at the Hobart WBF , she sold.
    I spoke to the previous owner just after that , he was justifiably proud of her . Apparently going down to Tassie she really flew at one stage , the Bass Strait does that !.
    But to be honest , I think I prefer Kamada , I'm just going to be fishing/trolling , after all.
    She offers the basic accomodation , and would do the job well.
    But that is the style of boat I want , tough , practical , and Bernard made them.
    Regards Rob J.
    I support your opinion of Kamala Rob, especially if you want a working boat, something you can fish from and not worry too much if she smells like a fishing boat occasionally .
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    Saw this on another forum.



    I"m the White Mug.

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    Red Injector
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufustr View Post
    Saw this on another forum.



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    That'd make me the Blue Ear then
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    I think it means a bit further right Greg.

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    Nice dead Funnel Web in the dogs drink bucket. All the wet weather seems to have them on the move.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Beware of dead funnel webs in water - sometimes they're not
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    Can I stretch that until I find something more appealing? There must be a lot of various coloured mice around and "the blue Trac stabiliser hydraulic hose fitting" doesn't quite have the correct ring to it, though "the blue busted shackle" at much the same distance isn't much better, nor "the blue 3 3/4 inch hole saw" or "the blue sticky note pad" - but if I look left, I could be "the blue mug" and we could be "the pair of mugs"!
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    The Black Mouse! (Hear me roar!)
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    I love this game ...I've just become a multicoloured Makita battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs View Post
    The Black Mouse! (Hear me roar!)
    How did I know it would be black !
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    How did I know it would be black !
    betya its a skivvy too...

    Yeah Rick... I know the Funnel Webs like to play dead... so I left it there. Want to show the kids too. I reckon its well dead though... its upside down.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    betya its a skivvy too...

    Yeah Rick... I know the Funnel Webs like to play dead... so I left it there. Want to show the kids too. I reckon its well dead though... its upside down.
    It's just something I was told once. Friends had a pool that used to regularly have `dead' funnel webs in it and they'd been warned that they can stay `dormant' underwater for a long time.

    By the way, your dog called to complain about you.

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    White pen. Look out

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    It's just something I was told once. Friends had a pool that used to regularly have `dead' funnel webs in it and they'd been warned that they can stay `dormant' underwater for a long time.

    By the way, your dog called to complain about you.

    Rick
    Yeah.... I pulled a live one out of the pool once.

    Mate... my dog just got to chase and massacre the soccer ball for 10 minutes... he's sleeping it off now.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    I think you are limited to your first choice.

    But if not I have morphed to flannelette 150 year old huon pine section.

    I've just spent 10 minutes carefully counting the growth rings and the section was 350 years old when the tree was cut.

    A youngster .
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    I've just morphed... winter has returned. I'm now Faded Black Shrapnel.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Friday arvo, having our Chrissy BBQ this arvo rather than wait until next week so I reckon I'll shortly morph into "The Blue Stubby"!!! shazaaam! (or maybe it'll be "The blue snag", I'll stay away from the chops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    Friday arvo, having our Chrissy BBQ this arvo rather than wait until next week so I reckon I'll shortly morph into "The Blue Stubby"!!! shazaaam! (or maybe it'll be "The blue snag", I'll stay away from the chops.
    Make sure you don't morph into the Blue Blonde
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufustr View Post
    Saw this on another forum.



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    Black leather Shiraz
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Black leather Shiraz
    C'mon tell the truth.... its really Black Glass... or Black Bottle.

    Must admit... I'm Black Dog at the moment....
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    I bought a really good light weight leather jacket from a bloke at a recent market. $8 for the jacket and $10 for a Record rebate plane. I'm wearing the jacket. It's black .

    The shiraz is Jacobs Creek.
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    Hmmm......Black Jake sounds heaps better.

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    Watching a show on SBS tonight it was mentioned that the Mediterranean Sea doesn't have tides

    At least not as we know them.

    I didn't know that.

    http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=627

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Hmmm......Black Jake sounds heaps better.
    ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufustr View Post
    Watching a show on SBS tonight it was mentioned that the Mediterranean Sea doesn't have tides

    At least not as we know them.

    I didn't know that.

    http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=627
    I thought it did but very ,very small .
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    Here is one in unbelievable condition , just look at the Gardner ! http://yachts.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=211144 , and $106,000 Aust !.
    A bit flash for me , and big , but a nice boat , just the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    ???
    Black (leather jacket). Jake(obs Creek shiraz)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    Here is one in unbelievable condition , just look at the Gardner ! http://yachts.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=211144 , and $106,000 Aust !.
    A bit flash for me , and big , but a nice boat , just the same.
    Regards Rob J.
    Gawd !! What a ship ! I don't think I could afford to maintain her if she was given to me but isn't she magnificent !
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    I was down by the Tweed today and saw my favourite motor boat again. She's the kind of thing I'd be looking for but she might be a bit humble for Rob. About 30 or 32 feet I'd say.





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    She is a nice little boat Peter , yes , she would be good .
    But I'd like to have something that I could sail , a motorsailer type.
    That other boat is the other extreme , beautifully done , but wasted on me .
    It needs a family to cruise it around the country or something , it would be awesome for that.
    There is a boat out there for me , having a humble beginning , a fishing or lobster boat that has been designed to sail a bit , that I can troll and fish from.
    Regards Rob J.

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    She never seems to go far either.

    Grey Wall...beware!
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    http://translate.google.com.au/trans...26prmd%3Dimvns .
    The broker dealing with the boat in post 62 has put more photos up , gee , thats a serious bit of kit !.
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    Some good photos there Rob.



    Like the English translation as well.

    Classic boat. Built in 1915 by Lyngør shipyard at Larvik, Norway. Main renovated in 2006 in the shipyard. Have sailed under blah. German & Schweizsist flag. A rarely offered & great vessel. Are approved for operation on all the World Garden. The ship is in good condition & fully equipped. New teak deck in 1999 & new engine in 1990 with 4000 hours of operation. Currently reside. Florence & eagerly awaiting its new owner. A good example of that adventure in the world, we must just go out & take hold of it! It did not come & knock on!

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    These boats seem to have a lot of windage and weight up high.


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    Rufus ,that's what I don't like about them. I spent one night under anchor years ago (I've mentioned before)in Princess Charlotte bay in FNQ.The other boat had a large superstructure and dragged horribly. I'd like to be able to reef and reefing a superstructure can't be done.

    I don't see why you need a huge top structure just because you have a big engine .
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    Yes , google can turn up some horrendous translations rufustr .
    The wheelhouse is aluminium , so it wouldn't be that heavy , but still the boat has a lot of sail , and high up , so they would be "interesting" in gusty winds.
    I can just imagine laying the boat about like that when the old chook was in the hot tub , I don't think I'd be very popular !.
    But at the end of the day , its just too big for me to be able to troll from on my own , probably , even motoring , it really needs a crew.
    I reckon it would suit a family though .It is extreme broad , and there is quite a lot of room , for her length.
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    This is one of my favourite study plans.

    From Tad Roberts.

    http://www.tadroberts.ca/services/sm...nt/johnsonde28


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    My mate Mike just sent me this.

    TASMANIAN CRAYFISHING SONG

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=SG&f...&v=xALzhFT7O6o

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    Yes , a nice boat rufustr , but I like this one better http://store.devlinboat.com/kokanee36.aspx .
    But the reality is I can't afford the money or time , to have a boat like this built , I have to find what is already available , at the right price.
    I know I mention his name a lot , but blokes like Bernard Wilson built strong sensible boats that can and do motor , or sail . That is exactly what he built for himself !.
    There are , or have been a lot of boats of this type built in Tassie , and Sthn Victoria.
    The Scandinavians built a lot , and also in Nth England and Scotland.
    Have a look at this little beauty. http://www.findafishingboat.com/larch-on-oak/DB35784 .
    I'm sure Garry Stewart could set her up nicely , with a little gaff rig.
    Regards Rob J.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvcAm...eature=related is Garry Kerr , from Portland.
    I have a DVD of his , showing him sheltering off an island down Tassie way in 70 knot winds (IIRC), and a little local boat , about 30 foot goes through on his inside !.
    Local knowledge of course , but that little boat was really bobbing around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Portland View Post
    The Scandinavians built a lot , and also in Nth England and Scotland.
    Have a look at this little beauty. http://www.findafishingboat.com/larch-on-oak/DB35784 .
    I'm sure Garry Stewart could set her up nicely , with a little gaff rig.
    Regards Rob J.
    How much would a boat like that cost to ship Rob ? Have you done any numbers ? I wonder what the boat would fetch ?...she's POA. I can envisage a very nice rig on here and have a Classic Boat article somewhere with a similar conversion.
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    Yes Peter , I have done the numbers.
    About $28-30,000 Aus , without even trying , for transportation to Portland.
    The other boats advertised on that site are asking around $40,000 for similar boats.
    And then there are government charges etc , the cost of going over and seeing the boat , etc etc.
    And thats before Garry gets started.
    She could be the ideal boat , very easy to get around , and work on etc etc , but you are probably looking at $100,000 + , by the time you are finished.
    Speaking to a boat broker from the area , he said that they are in recession , and its very much the buyers market.
    I suspect though , that there are buyers out there , hunting for the better fishing boats . A lot are apparently going to places like Sth Africa .
    Whether this boat qualifies as a better fishing boat , or just desireable for fools like me , I don't know.
    But if you watch the markets (which I have) the better boats are snapped up immediately.
    This boat hasn't been .
    Kamada was advertised for $80,000 , and snapped up immediately.
    But she was spot on , ready to go.
    I can see myself on "Morning Star" , with a little gaff rig , yep , I'd be happy.
    But whether she is worth the effort , with the other boats around that are for sale, well I dunno.
    Regards Rob J.

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    The little boat I posted earlier would be an easy enough conversion. She would probably run a 60 hp diesel but less would be adequate. An aft wheel house seems preferable on a motor sailer as you can sit inside and keep an eye on things .I wonder how much work would be involved in shifting a house back .It's something I think I could do without vast expense as long as the control modifications were simple.

    Do you have a top number in your budget for this project ...just so we don't post too much pie in the sky ?
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    A bit of bad news: John Little won't be making it up here for early January as his car will be too heavily laden to tow a boat. He and his wife are going to do the grey nomad thing for a bit. But he expects to be up here sometime within a twelve month timeframe with the Salty Heaven in tow.

    Having said that Rick is still coming up sometime to fetch his timber!
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    That little boat you put up Peter I'd leave just as she is , she would be great for fishing , particularly in rivers and estuaries in summer. A reliable diesel , and you would be set.
    As to cost , I reckon a Kamada is good value , at $80,000 . Thats what they asked this time , and thats what they asked a few years ago.
    I could pay more , if I was getting real value for money.
    But you know some of the Scandinavian wooden boats are ridiculously cheap , and all of the work is done , even with the transport costs , they are cheap.
    And there are some cheap boats in Tassie.
    My criteria is.
    Ideally 28-30 ft , but certainly under 10 metres , because of current insurance requirements in Portland Harbour.
    Wood , of course.
    An aft wheelhouse , with easy access all around the wheelhouse , for trolling.
    A gaff rig , probably gaff cutter , with appropriate winches and self furlers , lazy jacks etc.
    Something like a Gardner would be nice.
    A flat , clean deck , nothing to fall A over Z over.
    A hull form built to sail a bit .
    Nice and clean behind , nothing to foul lines etc , when trolling and tacking.
    Just a sensible boat , no frills , just a time and motion study , easy to operate , easy to fish and troll from.
    And able to handle a bit of weather.
    Regards Rob J.
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    I like this clip.

    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

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    To be honest , I'm not a fan of the bricks they call fishing boats these days , ploughing through the water.
    I prefer the original Colin Archer type boats.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA7zZQVPayY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0olEb...eature=related .
    Boats that sail on top of the water , not through it.
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