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    That would be terrific Phil, I looked at one last year that had totally separated from it's transom, and was on an unsuitable and untowable trailer that was the only thing holding it together. He wanted $700. Queensland Maple firewood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    If i could get it picked up I'd buy it.
    Your not the only one, how come most of the really great boats are always down your way?

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    This is how she was before i got started.....the semi bulkhead to port is chipboard and on the way out and I want to open up the cabin and put the head in the forepeak under the hatch. The flooring is baltic pine and has had its day and i want to clean, sand and repaint the inside hull. The bunk top is lined with baltic flooring and as i lifted them, some have borers in so they have to go. The borers havn't migrated to the bunk frames. The inclinometer came from one of the Japanese midget subs in Sydney. Harbour.



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    SSo lots of work ahead. She's still on the mooring so will be doing some sanding and prepping the interior before haul out in 4 weeks time. Its also easier to see where there where a few leaks, .......chain plates, and where the deck needs re sealing.
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    Well, that was fun, got the stitches in my eye taken out today. Don't move she said, I have something sharp in my hand.
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    Looks nice Hallam. Chipboard. Who uses chipboard in a boat fitout? It will be nice to get all that sorted.

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    Great project Hallam!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Looks nice Hallam. Chipboard. Who uses chipboard in a boat fitout? It will be nice to get all that sorted.

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    Yes it’s definitely not an option. The existing fitouut is not to the standard of the original build.Chipboard...!!! What where they thinking......how dare they!!! It had a nice veneer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    We used to live at Smiths Lake. Smiths Lake would be another really good option for The Haul.

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    I would second that too! Lovely spot. Myall Lakes would be good though, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    I still can’t understand why it’s used in kitchens and bathrooms.
    The building material that gets to me is gyprock. I reckon one day a bunch of people were sitting at a boardroom and saying "we've invented a material that isn't waterproof; is weak and brittle; heavy; and has the structural integrity of worm-infested Weetbix. What will we do with this rubbish?" and then deciding to make most peoples' biggest investment out of it.

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    Nice work Hallam. More power to your elbow.
    I see double steam bent frames? Spotted gum by any chance?
    Whats the planking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris249 View Post
    The building material that gets to me is gyprock. I reckon one day a bunch of people were sitting at a boardroom and saying "we've invented a material that isn't waterproof; is weak and brittle; heavy; and has the structural integrity of worm-infested Weetbix. What will we do with this rubbish?" and then deciding to make most peoples' biggest investment out of it.
    I hate the stuff too. I also hate chipboard and won't use it but .... the waterproof chipboard that's used for kitchens etc. is actually pretty waterproof and lasts a long time. I don't use it because I just don't like it. I'm using marine ply and solid timber for our kitchens and bathrooms. I use plywood, timber planking, cement sheeting or other sheeting (don't ask) where ordinarily gyprock would be used. There's a heap of gyprock in our house at Port Stephens but I won't retain any of it.

    By the way, I've had worm-infested Weetbix and found that the worms have little effect on their structural integrity. This can lead to disappointment if the infestation is discovered after breakfast or, especially, after many breakfasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
    Nice work Hallam. More power to your elbow.
    I see double steam bent frames? Spotted gum by any chance?
    Whats the planking?
    The ribs look like spotted gum from what I can tell. I was told the planking was tallowood when i bought the boat but it doesnt quite match the look and feel of the tallowood flooring I bought to make plugs etc. My thinking is it looks very much like Iroko.

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    I've never seen a boat planked with tallow wood. I wonder if there are many? What makes you think yours might be iroko, Hallam? Is it commonly used for planking? Like tallow wood, it's pretty heavy! Very strong though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    I hate the stuff too. I also hate chipboard and won't use it but .... the waterproof chipboard that's used for kitchens etc. is actually pretty waterproof and lasts a long time. I don't use it because I just don't like it. I'm using marine ply and solid timber for our kitchens and bathrooms. I use plywood, timber planking, cement sheeting or other sheeting (don't ask) where ordinarily gyprock would be used. There's a heap of gyprock in our house at Port Stephens but I won't retain any of it.

    By the way, I've had worm-infested Weetbix and found that the worms have little effect on their structural integrity. This can lead to disappointment if the infestation is discovered after breakfast or, especially, after many breakfasts.

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    Fishing bait? Could be a win-win if you don't mind eating them, plus you get to catch fish with them.


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    I agree that it would be a win-win if you enjoyed eating them. Fishing with them would be too frustrating as they are very small. Especially if you blindly followed protocol and chose the lesser.

    Of course, fishing is out of the question if you've already eaten them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    I agree that it would be a win-win if you enjoyed eating them. Fishing with them would be too frustrating as they are very small. Especially if you blindly followed protocol and chose the lesser.

    Of course, fishing is out of the question if you've already eaten them.

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    I just looked up tallowwood as a planking timber and found this document https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/as...atbuilding.pdf which lists tallowwood as a planking timber. I've seen the document before but never noticed tallowwood for planking. Blackbutt's also listed for planking - surprising to me. I really like tallowwood asa timber as it's so durable and I like working with it.

    I've never done anything with iroko. There's a great big plank of it here in our yard that I'm minding for a friend so I know what it looks like but that's all. I think he intends to slice it up for new gunwales on his GRP yacht but he left it here about 5 years ago so I'm not holding my breath waiting to see what happens to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    I've never seen a boat planked with tallow wood. I wonder if there are many? What makes you think yours might be iroko, Hallam? Is it commonly used for planking? Like tallow wood, it's pretty heavy! Very strong though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    I just looked up tallowwood as a planking timber and found this document https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/as...atbuilding.pdf which lists tallowwood as a planking timber. I've seen the document before but never noticed tallowwood for planking. Blackbutt's also listed for planking - surprising to me. I really like tallowwood asa timber as it's so durable and I like working with it.

    I've never done anything with iroko. There's a great big plank of it here in our yard that I'm minding for a friend so I know what it looks like but that's all. I think he intends to slice it up for new gunwales on his GRP yacht but he left it here about 5 years ago so I'm not holding my breath waiting to see what happens to it.

    Rick
    That link is a great bit of info there.

    About 20 years ago there was a Port Phillip workboat up for auction that was planked in tallowood. Heavy and strong as, and you could see the advantage of the interlocking grain in the places that had taken a lot of punishment. I put in a hopeful low bar bid but someone else got the boat. About the Iroko, I was reading up on the bloke who built Warana, Jack Gutierez and an article mentioned he used iroko among other timbers. The wooden boatshop uses a lot of iroko and looking at the way it looks, sands and comes up with a clear finish I'd say its much more likely to be iroko than tallowood. What started my thoughts that it wasn't tallowood was it didnt look like the tallowood floring i purchased or some tallowood that was in the yard at the wooden boatshop. I sanded and polished some samples to compare and was left thinking my hull was not tallowood. So the search began and after looking at a lot of timber one day i saw the boat next to mine in the yard had the same looking wood on the cabin sides and was told it was iroko, so i looked closer.

    Here's a bit about Jack on the National Maritime Museum's web page:
    Jack Gutierrez | People | Australian Register of Historic Vessels | Australian National Maritime Museum

    "Jack Gutierrez spent a lifetime working with boats. Born in February 1900 at Windsor in Victoria, his strongest influence after his father died in 1911 was his grandfather, a ship's master. Jack took up a shipwright apprenticeship with Howard Smith in 1915 and worked at their yard until taking up a carpenter's position aboard the ship CENTURY in 1920. Later he transferred to the COOMA before returning to work at Howard Smiths in 1923.

    In his spare time he built the launch JAY VEE (now CORRYONG), and by 1925 he was married and settled at Brighton. In 1927 Guiterrez was one of many workshop staff laid off at Howard Smiths, and he then managed to get by with odd jobs and repairs on houses and yachts. He was lucky enough to be asked to join designer and builder Charlie Peel to help build Joel White's ACROSPIRE IV in 1928. This led to him taking the yardman's position at Royal St Kilda Yacht Club in 1930, and he supplemented this work over the next decade by helping other builders on their projects.

    During the war he worked at Williamstown Naval Dockyards, and started building another launch for himself called LEURA. He returned to the yacht club after the war, then left in 1951 to build Dragon class yachts full time. The Australian 12 Foot Cadet class also caught his attention and he joined Royal Brighton Yacht Club, the Victorian base for that class. He became a stalwart supporter of the club and class, initially building wooden Cadets, then fitting out fibreglass hulled versions, doing the club's repairs and being the on-water support vessel with LEURA assisted by his wife Doreen.

    From the mid 1950s until he closed his shed in 1974 he was based in Brighton where he built a number of vessels including yacht designs by Len Randell and a Tasman Seabird by Alan Payne called JULIE O for Jock Sturrock. Although no longer building large vessels he maintained his work with the Cadet Class from 1974 until 1988. He then moved to North Brighton where he died in 1994.

    In 1980 he was awarded an MBE for services to Youth Sailing. His close association with the Cadets forged a strong and enduring relationship with the yachting fraternity in Melbourne. He was already well known to the older generation who were the parents of the next generation he supported in their dinghies, who then became the yachtsmen of the 1970s and onwards."
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    Thanks! There's so much interesting history attached to these boats! Quite a slice of heritage you have there!

    Rick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    I can pick it up for you Jeff. Not sure when I can deliver but we drive to Melbourne for one reason or another every now and then.

    I saw it a few days ago and wondered if it's a Cadet. Used to be a few racing at Largs.

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    Very busy day helping to tidy and sort stuff in Peter’s shed. Next Wednesday I will be putting together a list of Peter’s books. I will make the list available to anyone that is interested.
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    Carol asked my opinion on a top coat for Jim, I suggested a two pack Norglass. Opinions and suggestions are welcome.
    We also found a set of sails and floatation bags in a couple of plastic boxes, does anyone know anything about them?
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    I think Peter's friend Nick from Brisbane might be the best person to ask about the sails.

    I think paint recommendations depend on who's going to do the painting. Two-packs can be tricky for people not familiar with them. For a boat that's kept primarily inside, a good enamel is fine and easy to touch up.

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    We have a very vigorous cold front coming in, and having turned the boat around on Sunday, her mooring lines are all different, and having no actual cleats or Samson posts on deck, I was a little nervous. Bruce kindly popped down and put a towell In a vulnerable spot as chafing gear. I'm now aboard and have replaced the towel with a bit of hose. The other lines all go to shroud plates which isn't ideal but it's all I have. I've used up the last of my super expensive best quality masking tape on the deck beams. Now time for a quiet glass of wine in the shelter of the cabin while dusk settles snd the wind builds outside.

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    Thanks Rick. I noticed he has a tin of Penitrol (spelling) there which I believe is good for getting a smooth finish, I’ve never used it before so i be happy to be guided on that.
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    Also does anyone know what Peter paid for the bronze bilge pump? It’s one of the things that will be sold.
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    Balia's new deck paint is in the middle of the red bit in the middle of this. I was very impressed when I saw how the deck paint has come up. Maximum kudos to Phil





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    Dry as a cracker down below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemoffatt View Post
    Balia's new deck paint is in the middle of the red bit in the middle of this. I was very impressed when I saw how the deck paint has come up. Maximum kudos to Phil





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    We haven't had the rain yet but its blowing a gale from the north! 30 to 40 knots in the bay! A nice wooden boat broke its mooring a few days ago when the wind was only 15 knots from the north west and luckily drifted between my boat and my mates dingy and rested in shallows protected from wave action by the marina. It's going to be a rough week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Also does anyone know what Peter paid for the bronze bilge pump? It’s one of the things that will be sold.
    Only about $40. They were being sold off by the wife of the maker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Only about $40. They were being sold off by the wife of the maker.

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    My my, it’s a chilly morning here. Cutting firewood this morning so that should warm me up.
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