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    A preposterous new year sounds spot on.

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    This stuff makes great kindling

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    Are we having fun yet?

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    Good progress!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Some of you'll remember the little trawler/snapper boat we were loosely connected to the restoration of? Aaaaanyway, since I'm still waiting for a gearbox part for Masina, we're stealing/borrowing Gem for a little excursion.....

    Rick
    That's a very good looking workboat, and it's looking a whole lot better than in the photo I recall being posted some years back. I hope it was a good evening for you.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Are we having fun yet?

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    That looks a lot like my Halvorsen from a year ago, except on mine it was the bottom, not the deck.
    Wooden boat ownership is a real joy sometimes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MattSplatt View Post
    Good progress!
    Thanks, I need all the encouragement I can get!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris. View Post
    That looks a lot like my Halvorsen from a year ago, except on mine it was the bottom, not the deck.
    Wooden boat ownership is a real joy sometimes.



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    That sounds bad. All good now?

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    Got the skylight off. The thread of caulking had given up long ago.

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    Will you run glass up onto the face of the skylight coaming when the new deck goes on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattSplatt View Post
    Will you run glass up onto the face of the skylight coaming when the new deck goes on?
    I will. I also plan to put some framing under the deck, fore and aft between the deck beams. There was nothing there, just the ply, unsupported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    That sounds bad. All good now?

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    Yes to both.
    It was very bad - worm infestation. They love oregon planking.
    Vast amounts replaced, and epoxy barrier coat applied. Pricey work, but if not bulletproof, wormproof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris. View Post
    That's a very good looking workboat, and it's looking a whole lot better than in the photo I recall being posted some years back. I hope it was a good evening for you.




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    Thanks Chris! We did have fun and it looks like we'll be borrowing it quite a bit.

    Rick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Thanks, I need all the encouragement I can get!

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    Work harder!!

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    Thanks Rick. I think.

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    Don't think! Just work harder!

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    Rick, how did you get on about the Moth?

    And that block you offered? is it still available and how much please. Because I haven't been able to salvage anything suitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Rick, how did you get on about the Moth?

    And that block you offered? is it still available and how much please. Because I haven't been able to salvage anything suitable.
    I'm still lookin Jeff,I'm pretty sure it's there somewhere!
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    Look harder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Rick, how did you get on about the Moth?

    And that block you offered? is it still available and how much please. Because I haven't been able to salvage anything suitable.
    Hi Jeff
    I'm still trying to raise the courage to discuss the Moth with significant others.

    The block is yours if you want it - just PM the address.

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    I removed a bit more rotten ply today. Not even sure how I'm going to replace these bits. The photo is under the cockpit side lockers. Cockpit seats are basically a continuation inboard of the deck. The lockers are just kind of coaming boxes. If that makes sense. I don't want to deconstruct the cockpit. I have similar issues under the cabin/wheelhouse sides. Anyway it got too hot so I cleaned up and came home.

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    Some serious work there Phil.
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    Yes. That is a tricky bit.

    What's happening with the toe rail and various hardware along the deck edge? Will you have room to slide (or taper a little and then drive) pieces of ply under the edges of cabin and cockpit from the outboard side?

    ...or if not that, maybe go for a scarf fore/aft, slide in the first narrow piece then lay the outer piece over it while gluing the scarf. I don't know if that makes sense written. I can picture it.

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    That does make sense. But maybe its not that hard. The toe rail just sat on the deck, its been removed, so apart from the bolts that hold the cockpit and cabin down to the deck I have a clear path to slide ply into the gap. Its more that cutting out the rot is relatively easy, although removing the ply that remains in way of the deck beams will be more of a challenge. Its getting that cut edge nice and straight, and then getting a bit of ply to meet up with it cleanly thats likely to be tricky. And working around those bolts, thats messy. Gap filling epoxy is my friend, but gravity will be my enemy. I can see some nice little trim pieces of Huon in my future, to cover up my lack of precision.

    Here's the deck edge. A quick Wizz with a belt sander will have it looking like 1974 again.

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    Do you have to work around the bolts? Can they be removed, or are the heads buried?

    You could get a fairly good fit at the edge by getting it in position and scribing the shape then remove trim and refit. Huon pine trim pieces would be prettier and easier, though. :-)

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    Heads are buried in the cabin and cockpit sides somewhere. Scribing would be good, except that, well I cant really see how to do it. I cant overlap the pieces and scribe along the edge, because they cant overlap due to the deck beams and cockpit/cabin sides. A compass, working as a marking gauge, run along the edge of the cut edge, marking its shape on the new ply, pushed in as close as it will go. Maybe, but your hand would have to be steadier and more consistent than mine. Probably a bit of that, and several trial fits and returns to the workbench and whatever tool seems to work best. It would be nice to have a straight square cut to work to, but yeah. And I guess cut slots in the new ply where it has to get past the cabin/cockpit bolts, and snug a filler piece in behind the bolt, before the new ply goes in. Lots of epoxy, lots of drips, lots of cleanup.

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    Theres also the Boat factor. Im encouraged when I look at the photos here. Looks quite doable. On the boat, 30 degrees and sea level humidity, squeeze along the slightly too narrow passage, step over the ring frame, bang head on deck beam, turn, up the 3 steps, turn, step over the companionway, duck head, climb out of cockpit onto side deck, balance on deck beams, look at whats going on from that angle, return, look up under the deck, sun in eyes, change position, slip on saw dust and debris, dust in eyes, bang head on deck beam, bang elbow on radio, step over ring frame into aft cabin, kneel on floor, don ear and eye protection, grab zizzysaw and reach up above head, try to cut straight line, cant see due to sweat and fog on glasses, put saw down, wipe eyes and glasses, in doing so knock earmuffs off head, put ears and eyes back on, grab saw, and delicately cut to a line you cant see with sun and dust streaming into eyes, something hard digging into left knee and power cord caught on something 10 feet away. Repeat. And thats just the easy part of cutting the old deck away. Gonna be fun fitting new panels 2400 X whatever. Just having a bit of a whinge here.

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    Of course now would be a great time to take out the cockpit sides and rebuild them just a few inches further out. The seats are just that bit too narrow as they are. But I really, really don't want to go down that track, as I may never finish. But.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Are we having fun yet?
    It looks as though you’re having more fun than you could poke a stick at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Theres also the Boat factor...
    Yep... I know that one! :-|

    That's why we try to get you all fired up to charge into it on the next visit, hoping the momentum will get you through a couple of hours of Boat Factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Of course now would be a great time to take out the cockpit sides and rebuild them just a few inches further out. The seats are just that bit too narrow as they are. But I really, really don't want to go down that track, as I may never finish. But.......
    Yes. Roughly equal parts temptation and terror.

    How long can you get by with no cockpit sides at all? :-)

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    I'd do the wider cockpit now. You don't ever want to be returning to any of this again. Do it properly, an extra week, it's done - go sailing!

    Rick

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    I'm going to run it past the Purser. In fact it would work quite well with no cockpit sides. Just a big lounging deck. Lee cloths and cushions.
    But there's the question of sheet winches, currently mounted on the cockpit sides. And the supports for the hard dodger, which land on the cockpit coaming.
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    It would sure make the deck replacement a lot easier in that section!

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    Jeff, a really lousy photo of a Riley 324 ratchet block which may be broken, I can't tell.Yours if it's of any use to you.P1030207.jpg
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