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    Well my deckhead is painted. Looks OK. In real life you can see where various ply joins are, like a badly flushed ceiling. And the masking of the deck beams leaves a bit to be desired. But it's done. Next job I reckon is cleats and fairleads.

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    Looks good Phil.
    Congratulations on not getting so frustrated you just painted over everything.
    I'd have come close at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Small boats rock View Post
    I wonder why the cat did flip? It doesn't sound like there were unusually big seas.

    I have no idea but i can visualise a scenario; high loads up high, jibe, gust, not accelerate fast enough, facing down a moderate swell, dig in one of the bows and trip over.

    I love the idea of a cat but stories like that ... not sure i'd ever relax in one off shore.
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    We had one capsize up this way a few years ago and it was the second time it had gone over. Not enough beam, the present owners treat it as a power cat and left the rig off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
    Looks good Phil.
    Congratulations on not getting so frustrated you just painted over everything.
    I'd have come close at least.
    Thanks. In the aft cabin the beams were painted and the old deckhead was varnished. I masked the beams and painted the deckhead. Now there are some little bits of unpainted ply where the masking was a bit off. I guess I'll paint the lot back there some time. The old cream colour which I used to think of as white is now showing as very grubby yellow. It never ends.

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    Looks really good from here Phil! In the photos, I mean - great!

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    Thanks Rick. Rustoleum floor enamel. Single part oil based paint. Came up quite glossy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
    I have no idea but i can visualise a scenario; high loads up high, jibe, gust, not accelerate fast enough, facing down a moderate swell, dig in one of the bows and trip over.

    I love the idea of a cat but stories like that ... not sure i'd ever relax in one off shore.
    That is pretty well how I capsized a Blazer 23 after coming of a full on planning spinnaker run .
    A crew member up forward on the leeward side who despite being told to come was not listening , followed by a wild jibe combined with a fouled main sheet a big gust of wind and over she went.

    No surprise since the boat was called “Heart Attack”

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    They were heading from Port Stephens to the Central Coast in a W wind, which is almost on the nose - a beam reach only if it was true NW, which I don't think it was. Seems unlikely that there were any gybes. Boards were down - both. I reckon they were headed, forced too high (increased their apparent wind) or the mainsheet jammed. Or they hit something - but there's no apparent damage. They could have hit a whale, I guess.

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    Given the popularity of cats for cruising the oz coast and beyond, it is a bit alarming to think that the designs might be more on the edge than what good cruising boats should be. Whatever happened to the all the wharrams so prevalent just a few decades ago.

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    Hard to say what happened judging by the ages of the owners and number of people aboard one could speculate they where not pushing the boat too hard unless multiple gear failures, such as inability to reef or furl a headsail caused excessive speed.
    Another possibility may have been rudder failure rounding up wildly with the boat becoming unstable while making leeway and the leeward hull tripping on a wave as the full force of the wind hits her once on the the opposite tack. Or as you said Rick

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    What sort of cat, what length? It's hard to tell from the news articles.

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    One day 40 or so years ago we were walking through Hood's Marblehead boatyard and saw a man preparing a cat for some clearly serious passage (turned out it was Ray Greene preparing to cross the Atlantic). Silly me, I had the idea to question what happens if you capsize, and went ahead and asked. Oh, that will never happen, he said. Within a week Phil Weld was sitting on the bottom on his big cat off Cape Horn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Small boats rock View Post
    Given the popularity of cats for cruising the oz coast and beyond, it is a bit alarming to think that the designs might be more on the edge than what good cruising boats should be. Whatever happened to the all the wharrams so prevalent just a few decades ago.
    When a berth costs more than the boat. Oh and they were not floating apartments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    What sort of cat, what length? It's hard to tell from the news articles.
    I think it's a Spirit 380. Generally a pretty highly regarded design, I'm told.

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    There's so much boat in a catamaran.
    Even in a mere 38ft.

    cat.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    I think it's a Spirit 380. Generally a pretty highly regarded design, I'm told.

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    You can go a long way in a small cat if you combine stoopid with chicken in the right proportions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemoffatt View Post
    You can go a long way in a small cat if you combine stoopid with chicken in the right proportions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    I think it's a Spirit 380. Generally a pretty highly regarded design, I'm told.

    Rick
    Sorry, I meant Spirited 380

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemoffatt View Post
    You can go a long way in a small cat if you combine stoopid with chicken in the right proportions.


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    Or if you combine cat with chicken in the right proportions you can make a pretty good stoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Or if you combine cat with chicken in the right proportions you can make a pretty good stoo.

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    Glad I'm a vegetarian!

    Actually, make that a "fish 'n chipocrit". But hey, most fish are carnivores so they have no right to complain if it's their turn to be the loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris249 View Post
    Glad I'm a vegetarian!

    Actually, make that a "fish 'n chipocrit". But hey, most fish are carnivores so they have no right to complain if it's their turn to be the loser.


    I saw a cow eat a live snail in a mouthful of wet grass once. Game on, cows. Fish, chips, hamburgers. So long as the hamburger has beetroot I'm good with it.


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    Brrrrrr....I’m glad I don’t live further south.
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    Started a new rudder for a fellow club member's boat yesterday. Bit cold as yet to do much else but cut it out and sand it smooth.
    Not much else boat wise but I am considering rigging one of my salvaged pond yachts. Carved from a solid block of cedar but never finished. Couta Boat.

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    I'm so envious of you with those pond yachts Jeff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemoffatt View Post
    So long as the hamburger has beetroot I'm good with it.
    I thought only Kiwis were that strange.
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    Dangerous vegetable is a beetroot, gets all over everything.

    I don't really have a proper place to keep them Rick, let alone display them. I have long stopped collecting, way too expensive now. The first couple were off council clean out piles. All on ebay now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiletto View Post
    I thought only Kiwis were that strange.
    We happen to like pineapple on our pizzas and burgers. We even put beetroot on our burgers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Dangerous vegetable is a beetroot, gets all over everything.

    I don't really have a proper place to keep them Rick, let alone display them. I have long stopped collecting, way too expensive now. The first couple were off council clean out piles. All on ebay now.
    Oh, I know a place where you could display them!!!

    They're lovely things - you did very well saving them!

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    A bit of boat work in the shed for me. One of my Samson posts has a whole Dutch football team where it passes through the deck. The other has a collar of rot in the same area. And the frame of my lazarette hatch has some rot where it sits on the deck, even though it's Huon Pine. I've ground off the rot with my favourite tool, 16 grit on an angle grinder, epoxied them a couple of days ago, and this morning laid in a coat of thickened epoxy. Seems like something Jay would not do, but if anything I think it's probably better than Dutchmen. No little joints to capillary water in to where it can do bad things. But hopefully there will be no water in those places once I put it all back on the boat anyway. The hatch will be bedded on butyl tape, or epoxied in place with fillets around it. Or a bit of both, I'm not sure. It was previously screwed down with a thread of caulking cotton under it. The Samson posts I think I will make a little channel around them, maybe 5mm by 5mm, and fill that with butyl to allow for that tiny bit of movement where they pass through the deck.

    It all looks a bit like something off an old fishing boat at the moment, but it be beautiful in a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    We happen to like pineapple on our pizzas and burgers. We even put beetroot on our burgers.
    And good they are indeed! I'm a Yank and have started the trend up here much to the surprize and enjoyment of my fellow 'Murricans.

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    Taking a couple of mates for a sail on the weekend. Just up the river and anchor overnight...should be fun, one of them is a good cook.
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    Almost a Mirror - free VJ on Gumtree, located Gosford. Here.
    Boom looks higher than i remember ducking under.


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