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    Had a bit of a find yesterday. I've been pursuing the family luggers research, and came across some old notebooks of my great uncle. He visited his cousins a few times, this time in 1919, and did quite a lot of watercolours and filled notebooks with drawn and watercoloured observations of luggers, fish, butterflies and plants. Here's a bit of a sample of what I found.

    view out from Hockings Point



    same....



    observations on a lugger



    the lugger 'Kestrel' careened



    notes on an angler fish, caught on board the schooner Wanetta, pic I posted the other day..



    lugger, showing traditional colour scheme..


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    They're very good John, your great uncle was a talented bloke ! I wish he had had a large format camera too but illustrations are a wonderful thing in themselves, much better than a photograph in this case.

    Do you have a copy of Garry Kerr's "Craft and Craftsmen of Australian Fishing"? It has quite a few photos of the pearling fleet and details of boats .

    I'll post that parcel today.
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    Wonderful things to have in the family Johnno, have you had any thoughts about reproduction and long term conservation of the originals? Keeping them together is important as well, and do the Museum know about their existence? Your family retains possession and ownership of course but the resource is logged so that researchers know what exists.
    Have you thought of writing, with the rest of the family, a book? self publishing is very cheap these days, you can buy or download a package of parameters and you more or less just fill in the blanks.
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Self-Publi...ware&id=763839
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    Those pictures are fascinating John. What a wonderful thing to have in your posession!!!
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    Peter, I gather there are a couple of books I should get hold of. Looking into it at the moment but just forked out for a few boat building books.

    Jeff, I'm puzzling over it at the moment. My family seems to have accumulated a fair bit of interesting stuff over the years. We've already given a fair amount of rare books away to a specialist university library, and to the State library.

    Now that I have a look at this stuff, it's another story again. I guess there might have been 200+ paintings and sketches, some loose, some in notebooks. It covers a lot of territory from Sydney through Europe. Not sure what to do with it, but I'm thinking about it, and have put in a call to an historian here to discuss it.

    I need to track down the direct descendants of Reg Hockings, and his nephews, because they might have some more first hand material, and they'd be the proper ones to write the story, but they might not be interested. Then, there's the looking after the stuff I have. It won't last forever, and will need conservation at some time. As you say, keeping collections together is important too. I'm scanning it all at the moment, and then yes, letting museums know is also important, even if we keep the material.

    There's also a couple I'd love to hang on the wall. And my wife has expressed an interest in putting something together so that publishing link is a great help..cheers.

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    Meanwhile, as much as I want to be out in the shed making up my anchor locker and 1st bulkhead, or even digging for gold under the house (to redistribute some dirt behind my retaining walls) I'm struggling to reinvent my CV, a job that I'm ashamed to say I've been struggling over for three weeks. Although I really dislike the sales side of any jobs I reckon could probably make a reasonable case for selling ice to Eskimos, but trying to come up with a different style of CV to sell myself??? I'm struggling.

    My existing one is layed out in a "who I am and what my experience is" format, but everyone is telling me that now it needs to be far more the "gen' Y" format of "how ridiculously shyte hot I am and why your business can't survive without me", which I'm finding myself quite uncomfortable with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnno View Post
    Peter, I gather there are a couple of books I should get hold of. Looking into it at the moment but just forked out for a few boat building books.

    Jeff, I'm puzzling over it at the moment. My family seems to have accumulated a fair bit of interesting stuff over the years. We've already given a fair amount of rare books away to a specialist university library, and to the State library.

    Now that I have a look at this stuff, it's another story again. I guess there might have been 200+ paintings and sketches, some loose, some in notebooks. It covers a lot of territory from Sydney through Europe. Not sure what to do with it, but I'm thinking about it, and have put in a call to an historian here to discuss it.

    I need to track down the direct descendants of Reg Hockings, and his nephews, because they might have some more first hand material, and they'd be the proper ones to write the story, but they might not be interested. Then, there's the looking after the stuff I have. It won't last forever, and will need conservation at some time. As you say, keeping collections together is important too. I'm scanning it all at the moment, and then yes, letting museums know is also important, even if we keep the material.

    There's also a couple I'd love to hang on the wall. And my wife has expressed an interest in putting something together so that publishing link is a great help..cheers.
    Be a little careful before giving books to University libraries .When I was a young bloke I worked in Main Library at UQ and quite regularly large numbers of books would be donated from the estates or sometime by living ex students. 95% .would end in the skip. For a while they allowed staff to forage amongst them but then that was ruled "against policy'. It was a crying shame, the selections were cursory to say the best !! So many wonderful old books were dumped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    Meanwhile, as much as I want to be out in the shed making up my anchor locker and 1st bulkhead, or even digging for gold under the house (to redistribute some dirt behind my retaining walls) I'm struggling to reinvent my CV, a job that I'm ashamed to say I've been struggling over for three weeks. Although I really dislike the sales side of any jobs I reckon could probably make a reasonable case for selling ice to Eskimos, but trying to come up with a different style of CV to sell myself??? I'm struggling.

    My existing one is layed out in a "who I am and what my experience is" format, but everyone is telling me that now it needs to be far more the "gen' Y" format of "how ridiculously shyte hot I am and why your business can't survive without me", which I'm finding myself quite uncomfortable with.
    Perhaps you should employ someone to do it for you Greg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Perhaps you should employ someone to do it for you Greg?
    I'd thought of it Peter, but unfortunately I've been on the receiving end of quite a few CV's that people have spent good money on and they have been mostly quite dreadful, so I don't have a lot of faith in paying someone myself when I can't afford it anyway. I'm more than capable of writing it myself, it's the "mind set" that I'm struggling with and have been ashamedly procrastinating over it. Just me having a bit of a whinge really and it's the most important thing that I need to do right now.......the forum is just a good excuse for a break and a cup of tea while I self administer a bit of an attitude adjustment.

    I've had so many applications in and I'm appalled at how few businesses respond to even just acknowledge receipt, other than those with automated systems. I couldn't count how many CV's I've recieved from applicants myself, how many interviews I've done and how many people I've employed but every application that I have recieved I have always responded to, even if it's an mailed or emailed "thanks for the application but......." response, and every person that I've ever interviewed, be it by phone or face to face, I've spoken to afterwards and provided whatever feedback has been suitable.

    Someone suggested that a lot of the on-line applications don't even get viewed unless a computer program picks up some key phrases and words in the CV or application......... I don't know hoe true that might be but it seems feasible, times have certainly changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Or you could knit.

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    My Grandmother taught me to knit way back when I was little. I took it to school one day...big mistake, in 1958 boys did NOT knit! Bit sad really, I could do with a new jumper.
    Anyway it's been a good productive day. No ballast but I have some fine cushions to lay on while I dream of being afloat.
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    and I've finally got my new / old Wadkin table saw in good going order ! She's had a cruel life since 1967 but all is well now.
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    Gary, how's the launch schedule going? We have the opportunity of a weeks free accom in Kingscliff up to Aug. 4.

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    Hey Greg, I completely agree with you on paying for a CV format. What a waste of money and the results are usually pretty hopeless. For what it's worth, I find a quite simple format is best. All I ever use is this:
    Name and contact details
    List of qualifications
    List of previous employment - timeframes in recent to past order, e.g., 2010 - present Town crier, Wheelabarraback SC
    Then a paragraph on each of the most relevant positions, either in reverse historical order (present to past) or in order of relevance (I don't think it matters which). The content of the paragraphs is important. It can be in prose or in dot points - I prefer dot points. It should outline what you achieved in the role, paint a picture of what you have done. As a manager, you should include the outcomes of the teams you managed but indicate what guidance or whatever you provided. I try to keep all this to a couple of pages.
    Finally, I include names and contact details of referees - this is very important and they must be people who really know your work.

    With the CV! I always send a brief letter of introduction. This states clearly the two or three particular assets that I can bring to the role (e.g., specific experience, attitude, marriage to owner's daughter etc.)' and also states clearly why I am so interested in the advertised role or that project? It's good to sound enthusiastic, I think.

    If you're applying for a role wIth government or a foreign aid agency etc., they usually require an application or CV in their own or a preferred format. These are usually available through their website.

    That's my tuppence worth. Good luck. By the way, there seems to be quite a lot of work available around here at the moment as it seems everyone has gone mining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Gary, how's the launch schedule going? We have the opportunity of a weeks free accom in Kingscliff up to Aug. 4.
    Can't you find anything closer to home Jeff?

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    Thanks Rick, after todays efforts I'm now trying to peg it way back from seven pages.......after starting with ten...!! That seems to be the hardest bit at the moment: finding some brevity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Gary, how's the launch schedule going? We have the opportunity of a weeks free accom in Kingscliff up to Aug. 4.


    August looks like the more realistic date for the launch. It's really boiling down to $$. If I can get the keel on then it's really just a matter of saving for the launch and the mooring, that's around the $2,000 mark.
    Anyone got an opinion on Lewmar Anchors?
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    Might I suggest a cover letter and 3 pages at most, one with bullet points and the other with generic skills specifically supervisory but tailored to managerial if that's the gig you're applying for. (remember you can't threaten the boss's job if you're "overqualified").
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    August looks like the more realistic date for the launch. It's really boiling down to $$. If I can get the keel on then it's really just a matter of saving for the launch and the mooring, that's around the $2,000 mark.
    Anyone got an opinion on Lewmar Anchors?
    I don't know about Lewmar anchors Gary, but I'd be inclined to grab a second hand plow and sand anchor from ebay to start with and see how they hold your boat with a decent length of chain behind them. If I could afford one I'd go for a Rocna.

    edited to add, I don't mean both together of course....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    I don't know about Lewmar anchors Gary, but I'd be inclined to grab a second hand plow and sand anchor from ebay to start with and see how they hold your boat with a decent length of chain behind them. If I could afford one I'd go for a Rocna.

    edited to add, I don't mean both together of course....
    I'd go for a Rocna as well and I can get a 6kg (5-8m) for $249 but for the same money I can get a Lewmar Delta 10 kg (9-12m). MY insurance is going to be good anchors and I want to start off with a good one. By the time I cross the Tweed bar I want a minimum of 2 anchors on board.
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    Of course I could start with a 6kg Lewmar Delta (6-9m) for $169.90. I like going up a size though.
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    How about Manson ? https://www.whitworths.com.au/main_i...AbsolutePage=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Can't you find anything closer to home Jeff?

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    Won I think but cannot be used, so we got the option. Anchors of that type appear all the time at our local market, Are there any marks that I could look for as these may be Chinese copies.

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    Until I know how the boat handles the mast so far fo'ard I want to keep as much weight out of the bow as possible. I plan on using 10 metres of chain with a rope rode.
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    Jeff, how did you go with the sea kayak up here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    Jeff, how did you go with the sea kayak up here?
    There are a couple, trying to get good info from the seller(s) is difficult. One has no idea what she's got, it's her OS sons. The other is a bit evasive, either he doesn't really want to sell or it's not as good as he says. I have plenty of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    Thanks Rick, after todays efforts I'm now trying to peg it way back from seven pages.......after starting with ten...!! That seems to be the hardest bit at the moment: finding some brevity.
    Yes, that's still way too long. A lot of panels won't read anything over a couple of pages. Especially if it's a job with many applicants, i.e., more than ten!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Won I think but cannot be used, so we got the option. Anchors of that type appear all the time at our local market, Are there any marks that I could look for as these may be Chinese copies.
    I was talking about the week's accommodation ...

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    We were sitting outside this afternoon having a couple of drinks. On sunset I set up my netbook and some speakers and played Il Silenzio out loud to the valley. Being ANZAC Day it seemed fitting.
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    I've been working in the shop (rain and wind) listening to my LP collection of opera. Sutherland, Pavarotti, Boning and the London Phil in 1968, Daughter of the Regiment. Then some old jazz from about 1966, Red Onions. Then some older jazz, Venuti and Lang and the Gin Bottle Four. Then more opera. It's been a while since I've done that

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    Really gusty winds outside.
    BUT
    Thursday 26 April

    Sunny. Light winds. Overnight temperatures falling to between 9 and 12 with daytime temperatures reaching the low to mid 20s.
    Stay tuned folks it looks like it just might happen at last.
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    Gutsy winds today to 40 knots but nice in the water at 20C and the wishbone rigged ketch Sana (David Matlin) was powering along big time! BTW if I do it in what category should I do a photo thread on Amber-K?
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    Greg-Rick has pretty much nailed CV's 101. And Purri is right, keep it short. 7 pages is way too many. 3 is good. You've got to cut it back. Might be good to get kate to cut it to 3 pages-she might be more able to sort the wheat from the chaff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purri View Post
    BTW if I do it in what category should I do a photo thread on Amber-K?
    No "ifs" now Rick! I'd say Misc' Boat Related would be a good spot. I'm now waiting with baited breath! Such a lovely yacht!

    Good luck with the pour today Gary. Perfect weather for it!
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    Thanks Duncan. It's sunny and still, just what the doctor ordered.
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    Go for it Gary!

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    Looks like a day just made for pouring a ton or so of molten lead into the ground. Good luck with it Gary and stay safe - no risks, I'm looking forward to seeing lots of action photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs View Post
    No "ifs" now Rick! I'd say Misc' Boat Related would be a good spot. I'm now waiting with baited breath! Such a lovely yacht!

    Good luck with the pour today Gary. Perfect weather for it!
    Hopefully that's bated breath .... Purri, be careful what you put in Miscellaneous! We can't have any more sobbing from the Kiwis! But put it in - please!

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    And good luck Gary from me too! Big day!!

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    It's done and it was a trouble free pour. Some photos are up. Very big grin.
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    Hey Gary, now that that and the cushions are done, you'll be needing something new to while away the hours:

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TIMBER-FI...item231c8dc333

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    You couldn't find an uglier boat could you Rick?

    Congrats on the pour Gary, three cheers and a whisky toast.

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    Hey Gary, now that that and the cushions are done, you'll be needing something new to while away the hours:

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TIMBER-FI...item231c8dc333

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Hey Gary, now that that and the cushions are done, you'll be needing something new to while away the hours:

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TIMBER-FI...item231c8dc333

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    I think I prefer this one. Something to do while at anchor...thinking about you blokes still a building.
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    Oh yes! Very impressive! I think when you're running those sewing lessons for Greg and other forumites, you guys could do a bit of cross stitch in your breaks. I reckon that galleon will inspire much interest!

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    Junk rigs are renowned for easy handling, none of that clambering around the foredeck wrestling flogging headsails for me no sir. I'll sit back comfortably in the cockpit with my needlework...I might even take up knitting. I'd like a Fair Isle jumper.
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    I'd also like one so if you're looking for a commission from someone who admires your endeavours .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    I'd also like one so if you're looking for a commission from someone who admires your endeavours .......

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    If and when I take up knitting again, you might want to look it before you order one.
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    Well, by 1961 we were all reconstructed French knitters wondering what to do with the product of our endeavours. I'm happy to say this was not an enduring craze and I still wonder what the .... umm, devil, we were supposed to do with it all. I'm sure records were broken due to this general lack of purpose.

    I must admit, I look at the multiple projects of some WBFers and see parallels.

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    I was talking with someone recently and the topic of french knitting came up.
    http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/knittingnancys.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    I must admit, I look at the multiple projects of some WBFers and see parallels.

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    I resemble that remark!
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