Antipodean Boats Connection

[PeterSibley]

Well, I just got home. A trip to Bris to deliver a bit of furniture to my daughter than over to visit our John and discuss the virtues of various small boats .John's is an excellent design, I reckon it will be perfect for it's allotted task ...it's pretty too !

[purri]

But for Matt: Sow and Pigs is a little exposed reef in Sydney Harbour and Brewarrina is a town in NSW. The spirits of the Bundaberg area I suspect would be quite different again so maybe a visit to the local land council or Aboriginal cultural centre might be worthwhile.

Rick

Look at the AIATSIS map then suss out the LALC closest or maybe talk to Girringun around Cardwell or the Badjtalla mob further south for indicators.
The question you will be undoubtedly be asked is "for what purpose" and therefore most appropriate.

[m2c1Iw]

OK just had a play with Opencpn......cool what charts are you using?

[purri]

FWIW. Amber K went up on the hard today at Noakes. Sean Langman's Maluka is looking very flash though due to "over restoration" appears much like a plakky period replica. Pity as she continues to put it to the plakkies that timber (note: TIMBER) craft can still cut it. As for the rest then a Port Phillip day sailer and a few other worthy of meritorious acknowledgement.

I have noted over the last decade a lot less water pollution due to stormwater remediation via fixing busted drains after Mosman Council got a reef up the ring from Ntl Pks , SQIDS traps, far less dog crap organophosphates and far better antifoul (specifically ALTEX) than what even the old TBTs offered back in the day. Back in the water abt THURS.

What a great motor up and lotsa kingies around though no takes!

[WX]

OK just had a play with Opencpn......cool what charts are you using?

I have: BSB East Coast, Cm93(0-40N) which woudn't t work very well but I realised today I didn't have them installed properly, Cm93(0-40S), Cm93ed2_2009,ENC_ROOT SE Asia and US, HDR Aust, New Zealand. I also have the pilot charts somewhere.The CM93 show updated 2009.
I have already plotted my first trip to Southport.

[m2c1Iw]

I have: BSB East Coast, Cm93(0-40N) which woudn't t work very well but I realised today I didn't have them installed properly, Cm93(0-40S), Cm93ed2_2009,ENC_ROOT SE Asia and US, HDR Aust, New Zealand. I also have the pilot charts somewhere.The CM93 show updated 2009.
I have already plotted my first trip to Southport.

Great, I've got paper from Sydney to the Whitsundays a few years old now and I remember them costing a fortune. How does the electronic versions run price wise.

[WX]

Mine were free downloads and tend to be a few years out of date. The BSB charts were last updated in 96 I think. The CM93 were updated in 09. The ENC SE Asia are kept up to date and the ENC_Root US are 2010.

[m2c1Iw]

Mine were free downloads and tend to be a few years out of date. The BSB charts were last updated in 96 I think. The CM93 were updated in 09. The ENC SE Asia are kept up to date and the ENC_Root US are 2010.

Ah thanks, been doing some browsing and I'm amazed how things have changed in the last few years so much available to download free. My last blue water sailing was late 1990's and paper charts and a couple of Garmins was all I used.

[WX]

I figure as long as you don't rely on them for pilotage they should be fine. Sandbars might move but land masses and coastlines rarely do...except in NZ and Japan of course.

[RFNK]

Hope all's well with the lovely Amber K Purri!

Rick

[skuthorp]

Two hours sailing late today to fit with the incoming tide. 10-15 kts onshore so I thrashed up and down the beach on broad reaches bruising my butt on the combing hanging out over the side. I keep promising myself to do something about it too. Still a skiff sailor by nature.

Got saturday to myself it seems too, I might mount an expedition to French Island early, and then there's a second hand tool dealer back in the hills behind us............ Or maybe a few hours in the surf, that'll be cheaper!

[The Bigfella]

Ah thanks, been doing some browsing and I'm amazed how things have changed in the last few years so much available to download free. My last blue water sailing was late 1990's and paper charts and a couple of Garmins was all I used.

Don't rely too much on your Garmins. Mine wanted me to cross a river today on a suspension bridge... one with two hand hold ropes and a bamboo pole to walk on. Sorry.... not doing that on a motorbike.

[m2c1Iw]

Don't rely too much on your Garmins. Mine wanted me to cross a river today on a suspension bridge... one with two hand hold ropes and a bamboo pole to walk on. Sorry.... not doing that on a motorbike.

Mine were your very basic GPS still had to plot a position, fun every hour on a long trip well at least it helped to stay awake on the middle watch.

[WX]

I sorta realised next weekend is Easter, so I'm going to hold off on the pour till after Easter.

[WX]

I had the strangest dream this morning. Redwing was used a coffin for some Pacific islander chief/elder. I was quite upset about it but someone did give me a sizable roll of money as compensation .

[PeterSibley]

I've heard of lead lined coffins but lead bottomed ?

[skuthorp]

Out for an early morning sail today, and did it blow up! Strong and gusty from the north, there's a change coming. Ended up quite wet and earned my bucket of coffee and bacon and eggs. Forgot it's school holidays though, cafe was full of kids, bus load of adolescent girls - the noise!

[WX]

Finished cementing the mold in today. I was going to aim for a pour next Friday but I'm working ($$), so my plan is to wait till after Easter. I spent some time on pulling the fuel pump off the Yanmar today to see if the plunger was seized but it's fine. I'm now wondering if the fuel filter needs to be higher...something to do tomorrow I guess.

[Phil Y]

Maybe it was a hearse rather than a coffin-you must have been cruising through the Pacific Islands, a chief died while visiting away from his home island, and your boat, being the most beautiful they had seen for many years, was selected as the transport to return the great chief to his birthplace. His great grand daughter, a young thing of perhaps 24 or 25 summers, fell hopelessly in love with you and, your wife having sadly passed away shortly before you started this great adventure in the South Seas, you found yourself becoming increasingly fond of this young Polynesian woman, who despite her tender years had the wisdom befitting a future Grand Chief of an island nation. In time she joined you aboard, and you cruised together, visiting the many islands of your adopted kingdom, which until now had been torn apart by tribal fights and jealousies. Together you forged a strong and vibrant nation, a community, which although increasingly threatened by the perils of rising sea levels and rapacious Japanese long liners, became determined to achieve its potential as a strong and peaceful people. The boat itself became a symbol of hope, destiny and nationhood-small, but strong, built over many years with few resources, but unwavering determination. Under the leadership of your new bride, the nation grew in strength. prosperity and confidence. A stable economy was forged, largely on tourism-not trashy commercialised tourism, but a mix of eco tourism, and a new form of tourism, where world leaders came to visit and learn about how people living in a nation of small and dispersed islands could build a peaceful, harmonious and prosperous nation. This learning was taken back across the world, and applied by these leaders within their own countries, and across countries. Wars no longer seemed to be the right way to solve anything, wealth, food, knowledge and medicine were shared. The world prospered like never before. people right around the globe were happy, healthy and free.





Or maybe you took an islander for a sail and the boat foundered because of a failed glue line somewhere.

[PeterSibley]

Phil's on the kava again

[WX]

Maybe it was a hearse rather than a coffin-you must have been cruising through the Pacific Islands, a chief died while visiting away from his home island, and your boat, being the most beautiful they had seen for many years, was selected as the transport to return the great chief to his birthplace. His great grand daughter, a young thing of perhaps 24 or 25 summers, fell hopelessly in love with you and, your wife having sadly passed away shortly before you started this great adventure in the South Seas, you found yourself becoming increasingly fond of this young Polynesian woman, who despite her tender years had the wisdom befitting a future Grand Chief of an island nation. In time she joined you aboard, and you cruised together, visiting the many islands of your adopted kingdom, which until now had been torn apart by tribal fights and jealousies. Together you forged a strong and vibrant nation, a community, which although increasingly threatened by the perils of rising sea levels and rapacious Japanese long liners, became determined to achieve its potential as a strong and peaceful people. The boat itself became a symbol of hope, destiny and nationhood-small, but strong, built over many years with few resources, but unwavering determination. Under the leadership of your new bride, the nation grew in strength. prosperity and confidence. A stable economy was forged, largely on tourism-not trashy commercialised tourism, but a mix of eco tourism, and a new form of tourism, where world leaders came to visit and learn about how people living in a nation of small and dispersed islands could build a peaceful, harmonious and prosperous nation. This learning was taken back across the world, and applied by these leaders within their own countries, and across countries. Wars no longer seemed to be the right way to solve anything, wealth, food, knowledge and medicine were shared. The world prospered like never before. people right around the globe were happy, healthy and free.





Or maybe you took an islander for a sail and the boat foundered because of a failed glue line somewhere.

Thought the first option sounds a bit Mills&Boon, I think I will go with that. A 25 year old beats a failed glue line any day in my reality.

[PeterSibley]

Thought the first option sounds a bit Mills&Boon, I think I will go with that. A 25 year old beats a failed glue line any day in my reality.

Gary, that is VERY strange comparison but there are some faint similarities.

[WX]

Gary, that is VERY strange comparison but there are some faint similarities.

You are right, it's more Jimmy Buffet and if you have ever read any of his books you WILL know what I mean.
If you haven't, I can lend you one Peter.

[purri]

Hope all's well with the lovely Amber K Purri!

Rick

Frankly I've bin workin' me ring orf with hull matters and wooding the coach house, contiguous coamings and cockpit trim, the first coat of "vanish" maybe tomoz, thence another 10. I am truly farkanarked!

With the exception of Malulaka of Kermandie and the Ranger class Vanity the yard is bereft of niceities. Times are certainly difficult around the traps esp the "gold coast" but these are times when the old money sustains the industry in part BUT at a certain price.

As a wit remarked some weeks ago: "the GC is a different place full of money, drugs and (plakky) boats but few are prepared to spend it on maintenance".

[Larks]

You are right, it's more Jimmy Buffet and if you have ever read any of his books you WILL know what I mean.
If you haven't, I can lend you one Peter.

I've got "Where is Joe Merchant?" and "Tales from Margaritaville", which ones do you have Gary?

[Larks]

As a wit remarked some weeks ago: "the GC is a different place full of money, drugs and (plakky) boats but few are prepared to spend it on maintenance".

Sounds like something I might have said...if not.....you (he/she) took the words right out of my mouth.......

[Larks]

At the risk of possibly contravening forum rules...here's a link to my Volvo Penta engine sale add, if anyone knows of anyone who may be interested could you pass the word.......:

http://qld.newsclassifieds.com.au/Bo...ne18hp/1564021

[WX]

I've got "Where is Joe Merchant?" and "Tales from Margaritaville", which ones do you have Gary?

I think I have both of those Greg, I'll have to look.

[WX]

Lazy day, I've nothing but read a Terry Pratchett book (Making Money) and snoozing. Needed a day off.
Greg I have A Pirate Looks at Forty.

[PeterSibley]

I'm totally stuffed ! An enthusiastic day in the shed, varnished some old sash from the bathroom( new glass,revarnish and repaint). Fitted the new single phase motor to the Wadkin sawbench but I'll have to buy new belts,the new motor is slightly larger than the 3 phase one and I hadn't noted the difference .... another trip to town .

Next the clear out began ! Old ply and MDF ,chipboard and steel ,accumulations of stuff from jobs.I need some room and a bit more open floor! All in a big pile so off to the tip as well as buying belts .

Moving some stuff in one corner and more termite damage showed up, they have been busy ,no mistake .

I think I'll need a new floor in the lower section so I'll look around for a deal on some 17mm H3 ply. I'll need 20 sheets of 2400x1200 so if anyone sees a good price could they please let me know .

[PeterSibley]

While searching an auction site for the H3 ply I came across this .http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5002...ck-up?spr=true
All used oregon but VERY cheap and in quite large sizes . Gate 2, 13 Joynton Avenue, Zetland, NSW, 2017

[Meli]

Took the girlchild down to the club.
Her first sail in Bouboulina.
I didn't get a look in except having to jump in the lake cos she was too tired after two hours on the water to right her deliberate capsize and bring the boat in.
(Which is why I got her to do it. )

Reckon I could market Albert Park lake mud at $200 a pot?

[skuthorp]

The old joke about the lake was that the worst thing that could happen was that you might have to walk home. My local sailing grounds here are somewhat similar.

[purri]

Sounds like something I might have said...if not.....you (he/she) took the words right out of my mouth.......

Aya Larks, I'm a fulla as Bern and others may attest. Yeah I'm covering my sources though suffice to say the maxim holds true. In Sinny there are folk who have their 80 foot gin palaces well maintained though with the GFC regular maintenance isn't very often for those from 40 to 60foot and there are a $hitload up for sale at knockdown prices.

Thus "old money" comes out to sustain the older fleet in particular, Nigel S' Fidelis is still a real bit of furniture and of course there are many others but we have issues in the Harbour with rising mooring rentals ($720 for a 28 footer in a high des res area for starters)

For me it's another 7 days on the hard (very hard work for an oldun) and I'm back to the mooring. Perfect bliss!

[skuthorp]

A few years ago a Maltese tradie knew built a big cruiser, great design, timber paneling, decent kitchen on his partners orders, twin diesels etc. Could afford to build it annd even run it, but a mooring? Hard to find on his side of the bay and even then costly. Somuch so that he couldn't afford to keep it. Very sad, after 7 years building he had it for less than 2 years.

[WX]

A few years ago a Maltese tradie knew built a big cruiser, great design, timber paneling, decent kitchen on his partners orders, twin diesels etc. Could afford to build it annd even run it, but a mooring? Hard to find on his side of the bay and even then costly. Somuch so that he couldn't afford to keep it. Very sad, after 7 years building he had it for less than 2 years.

One of the many advantages of living where I do is my annual mooring fee (when I get it) will be $220.
Well I'd say Autumn is here, there's a definite edge to the air now.

[skuthorp]

Under old titles there are moorings tied to land titles in some places about here, reputedly $80.00 a year. Many of the moorings are 'name only' as there is no ground tackle left, but some are rented out at a considerable margin.

[m2c1Iw]

News flash.......................my new sails arrived today.

[WX]

News flash.......................my new sails arrived today.

Congratulations.

[johnno]

News flash.......................my new sails arrived today.

pix or they didn't really arrive..you know the rules!!

[skuthorp]

Well I was going sailing this morning but not a breath of wind. So it's the kayak I guess. Still very warm here even on a clear night and a shower or two would be nice.

[m2c1Iw]

pix or they didn't really arrive..you know the rules!!

Photo albums to follow.

[skuthorp]

3.5 hours on the river and the bay when the wind dropped. Almost got caught on a mudbank on a falling tide. LARGE coffee and a pie after. Loverly.
Now for reality, shovelling gravel and making a path.

[PeterSibley]

A productive morning swapping 3 phase motors off my "new" table saw and the "new" 12" jointer and replacing them with single phase motors from my stash. A good cleanup yesterday and more to go .

This all to make room for building the mythical 18 foot canoe yawl JIM !

I've been killing termites too, too many termites .

[Larks]

A productive morning swapping 3 phase motors off my "new" table saw and the "new" 12" jointer and replacing them with single phase motors from my stash. A good cleanup yesterday and more to go .

This all to make room for building the mythical 18 foot canoe yawl JIM !

I've been killing termites too, too many termites .

Mythical??? I bloody well hope not Mr Sibley!!!

[PeterSibley]

Mythical up 'til now !

[RFNK]

When the myth approaches reality it gains legendary status. So .......... hurry up!

Rick

[Phil Y]

Just back from a quick trip to Cairns to get a bit of flesh chopped out of my shoulder. Twas just a spot but the doc thought better safe than sorry. Too many summers of going down to the beach and getting burned as a kid methinks.

[skuthorp]

I spent years as a surf lifesaver in the days when cocoanut oil was the go. But it could be worse, a bloke called O'dea would eat a tin of herrings for lunch a smear the oil on afterwards. On a hot day it was well to be upwind of him. Deep fried lifesavers. We had a pharmacist though who made up a wondrous paste from borax amongst other things that removed the heat and the inflamation in an hour or so and you didn't peel. He left the formula to the red cross I think. I am overdue for a look see myself.

[PeterSibley]

O'dear!