Antipodean Boats Connection

[Larks]

I'm just thinking how often I have wanted to flip a car over on its side like that to work on it!

[The Bigfella]

I'm just thinking how often I have wanted to flip a car over on its side like that to work on it!

I've done it... more than once. Good old VW Beetles. Lift the body off.... flip the pan over.

[Larks]

Gee the bottom is dropping out of the boat market , well in the Scandinavian and European market at least , particularly for wooden boats .
From my experience its not too hot in Australia either.
But how about this one . They have just spent an absolute fortune on it , held their price for a while , and are now trying to unload it for $78,000 Aust , or make an offer.
Its in Italy at the moment I believe , which probably gives a hint at what has happened.
Anyway , check the photos !. http://www.hbs.dk/Colin-Archer-42 .
Its too much boat for me , and I don't think I could get a crew too often , but gee , it would be fun !.
Rob J.

That's a lot of boat for $78k Rob. How's the price now on that other one that you are looking at? It could be worth a ridiculous offer.

I've just had a mate tell me that he has bought a business for next to nothing that he tried to buy a few years ago for $12mill. This was his fourth attempt, the second he went back with $6 mill, the third down to $1.3mill and this final one was obscenely less than that after submitting a ridiculously low (and barely serious) tender to purchase through liquidators. To top it off, after the liquidators called him in to do the deal they started removing plant items from the tender sale so he told them to jam it and walked away with an over the shoulder comment to reduce his offer by half if they wanted to try talking to him again. They called him 2 minutes later before he left the car park, the final deal was 50% of his tender offer, the liquidators just had to be shot of the business.

[The Bigfella]

Shhh that's politics Greg

[PeterSibley]

A bit of fun really, but Ron and Bruce from Leda Suspension were amused, and Ron dropped what he was doing to do the job.

I won't say what the job cost as Gentlemen who own Exotic Cars don't discuss money.

You had me worried !

[PeterSibley]

Gee the bottom is dropping out of the boat market , well in the Scandinavian and European market at least , particularly for wooden boats .
From my experience its not too hot in Australia either.
But how about this one . They have just spent an absolute fortune on it , held their price for a while , and are now trying to unload it for $78,000 Aust , or make an offer.
Its in Italy at the moment I believe , which probably gives a hint at what has happened.
Anyway , check the photos !. http://www.hbs.dk/Colin-Archer-42 .
Its too much boat for me , and I don't think I could get a crew too often , but gee , it would be fun !.
Rob J.

As Greg said ... that's a lot of boat and that superstructure might be fun in a big blow. I remember being anchored next to an ex-tuna boat in Princess Charlotte Bay in the tail end of a cyclone.That top hamper on the tuna boat made for an interesting night and I have to say I was surprised to see her afloat the next morning. We dragged. She ploughed .

[Portland]

Greg , I've got photos of the rebuild , and its just MASSIVE !.
No wonder that 42 ft boat weighs 24 tonne , or something.
And the interior is very tastefully done.
In one of the posts from the (very keen) broker , they do mention the money spent , its just a heap of money.
A shame really , but someone is going to get a lot of boat , for peanuts.
Rob J.

[Larks]

want a cheap H28? be quick http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Herreshof...2#ht_500wt_922

[WX]

Not me, that's just too daunting for me.

[The Bigfella]

Yeah... I could use another project.

Got some good news today. The missus gets released from gaol on Christmas Eve.

[WX]

Yeah... I could use another project.

Got some good news today. The missus gets released from gaol on Christmas Eve.

How long you planning on living? So when are you getting back into some boat repair/restore?

[The Bigfella]

Up to my eyeballs in some work projects at the moment. Once I crank out some reports I'll have some time between drafts and finals.... so I'll do maintenance.... then its off to smoke up some more rubber in Asia, then I should start playing with wood once I get back.

[PeterSibley]

want a cheap H28? be quick http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Herreshof...2#ht_500wt_922

Not with 14 minutes to think but an H28 could be good for me. Smaller but a useful size . Mumble ,mumble .

Thanks for the heads up Greg .

[PeterSibley]

$385 + plus transport from the Central Coast to the Qld border. Any idea what that would have been? No I didn't buy her.Tempting though .

[The Bigfella]

Transport to Qld? Maybe $300 for a crane onto a trailer, then a couple of tanks of juice.

[PeterSibley]

Not with an H28. A bit big .

[Portland]

I've put up some photos on http://www.woodworkforums.com/f33/ca...8/index11.html of the Colin Archer boat .
I tried to put them on here , but I still can't get that right.
Rob J.

[PeterSibley]

I've forgotten my password and login there Rob .

In case it's of any use I use this photo host .http://www.picturetrail.com/

Join .

Click upload photos
Click browse ... you own files come up .

Click on the photo to upload
Click upload photos .
Then get photo urls.
High light and copy the post to forum url .

Paste here .

From memory that how it goes .It's worth stuffing around with .

[rufustr]

Transport to Qld? Maybe $300 for a crane onto a trailer, then a couple of tanks of juice.

A lot bigger than the dragon.

How you ever got away with that I'll never know.

I still have the photos.

If I had tried that I'd probably just be getting out of the lock up now.

[RFNK]

At least it's a good looking dog ... well, not a bad looking dog, anyway ...
Rick

[The Bigfella]

How I got away with it? Maaate.... all legal. I reckon. All dogged down... chains, straps... whatever.

Speaking of dogs.




Jet's owner, my son Peter, is in Spain - and then Di's gone off to gaol for a month, so he's turned to me as his new boss.

Incidentally I've just seen photos of Pete here - this isn't him, but same place - the El Camino Del Rey cliff walk in Spain.

Ughh

[skuthorp]

That H28 sure has that 'antiqued' look about it. More work than it looks I'll bet.
Canoe club xmas bash yesterday at a local 5th generation professional fishermans' place. He wasn't there, out fishing of Tassy's west coast in 20M swells. In his tiny creek was a Couta boat, restored but it was built by his great grandfather and used for 40 years by 2 generations to make their living. No pics, no camera but very simple and spartan. He has the original rig but no sails.

[WX]

How I got away with it? Maaate.... all legal. I reckon. All dogged down... chains, straps... whatever.

Speaking of dogs.




Jet's owner, my son Peter, is in Spain - and then Di's gone off to gaol for a month, so he's turned to me as his new boss.

Incidentally I've just seen photos of Pete here - this isn't him, but same place - the El Camino Del Rey cliff walk in Spain.

Ughh

I would find the cracks in the concrete rather disturbing, not that walking on that rail isn't!

[PeterSibley]

There's a seriously hair raising clip on Utube about that walk .

[The Bigfella]

I'm sure he'll have his own video of it. I'm not linked in to any of my kids on Facestalk, so can't show his photos.

[Duncan Gibbs]

At lest he's on belay, but with all that weight on his back...

[Larks]

Here's one for Rob, huon and king billy pine, nice price too:

http://www.boatbrokers.com.au/ed.php?de=81802




and the more I look at her and read about her the better I like her myself, seems very nicely priced for what she has in and on her.

[rufustr]

Subject to her being sound that would have to be great value Greg.

About the ideal size for one or two people to manage as well.

[PeterSibley]

As Rufus says ,if she surveys well she very nice indeed !

[RFNK]

Wow! Wouldn't that be just about perfect for Rob? Seems very cheap.
Rick

[Portland]

Greg also posted privately about that boat , and I gave him a detailed response.
But basically , that boat was on the market when I first started looking , maybe 6 years or more ago.
She was either taken off the market , or sold , but came back on the market maybe 2 years ago.
If you look on the thread I have put up on the Aussie WBF , you will see I mentioned her ages back.
Twice , at least.
I had intended checking her out when I went down to Tassie , but suddenly she was off the market , I assumed she had been sold.
I contacted the 3 boat brokers , telling them I was coming down , and I was in the market for a 28-30 ft cray boat.
The only broker that bothered to reply was BB of T , to tell me that they had a deceased estate coming up , a 30 footer , but that was all they could tell me at that stage.
I asked them if it had been advertised with another broker , they assured me it hadn't.
So , I went down , and checked out a few boats advertised privately , I checked out the boats all along the east coast and south , but got no advise from BB of T , till I got home.
Then they told me about her .
I've been following her for years , checking to see if she is still for sale , and when I've gone down there hoping to see her , they stuffed me around.
I wasn't happy , and told them so !.
But it was a very enlightening trip , and I made some very good contacts.
The biggest disappointment was that as I was coming in to LST , Kamada come on the market again.
If I had known , I would have bought her.
I didn't find out for a couple of days that she was on the market , by which time she had gone.
I saw a couple more Bernard Wilson boats , I would love to get a Kamada , or one of her sister ships.I saw one being prepared for new owners in Triabunna .
Ya never know , I have a very good man on the lookout.
This boat for sale , bloody hell , they knew I was coming down , surely they could have organised me to try her out !.
The previous broker told me she is NOT a motorsailer . Without trying her , I'm wondering if that is just a matter of definition , or interpretation.
There are a couple of other possibilities too , that could develop further.
Regards Rob J.

[The Bigfella]

Nice boat....

I posted a photo of the cliff walk in Spain that my son did the other day - but it wasn't him in the photo.

I just stalked him and see that he's uploaded a photo of him doing it.

Phew.

[RFNK]

Certainly looks hairy! Nice clear planking they've used though
Rick

[Larks]

I can't seem to get the image URL when using this IPAD to post a photo directly, but here's a link to Kamada:

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=be...D8ytiQeRjJ2rBw

[Portland]

Yes , she is quite a beamy boat Greg.
When I was interested in her before , I had a long talk with the builder Kevin Argent , and the owner at that time , and AD actually went over her for me , and gave her the thumbs up.
But Leyla baulked at spending $80,000 on my first up boat.
She had a point , but the reality is , by the time I had finished doing up HS , I wasn't much shy of that anyway.
I have a few photos of Kamada , from when she was for sale a couple of years ago , on my stupid site.
Apparently , if she had a fault , it's that she was slow , being so beamy.
But that is ok with me , I'm in no hurry.
Regards Rob J.

[PeterSibley]

Certainly looks hairy! Nice clear planking they've used though
Rick

I'll pay that !

[RFNK]

Seen this thing on Ebay Rob?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MONO-HULL...item2a167ca30d
Rick

[Portland]

Rick , no I hadn't seen that one.
It looks like someone has spent a hell of a lot of time on that boat , and I've gone over the photos a lot , but I can't get enthused , I'm sorry.
I'm looking for a flat deck if possible , and a wheelhouse , something like Bernard Wilsons own boat would be perfect !.
Its a time and motion study , and you should be able to go all around the boat with your eyes closed.
But thanks for posting Rick , she looks interesting , but not for me.
Regards Rob J.

[RFNK]

I have to admit I don't like it either - but I thought I should mention it anyway.
Rick

[Portland]

Thanks mate , for telling me about it anyway.
Regards Rob J.

[Duncan Gibbs]

What about this one Rob?

http://www.boatbrokers.com.au/ed.php?de=20426

[Portland]

Duncan she too has been on the market for some time , and I did enquire about her ages back , when the owner was asking well over $100,000 , as she ticked a lot of boxes.
But I was advised that she needs a lot of work , and it would be big dollar work , so I stepped back from her.
Its not only that the total cost would be so high , but it would mean a long time in a boat yard being worked on.
I'm buying to use , not work on.
The ideal is the Bernard Wilson boat . A headsail on a self furler , a gaff rig with lazy jacks and winch , easy for one person to operate safely.
Oh , and Bernard has a 6cylinder B series Cummins in his boat too , so if you need HP , its there.
Although I would prefer the 4LW in the boat you put up.
That boat does like nice , but I was advised by someone who knew her to stay away from her , unless you had a very fat wallet.
And , like on Bernards boat , I'd like a flat deck.
Regards , and thanks Rob J.

[Larks]

Now that I'm in front of a real computer:

[Larks]

I'm pretty sure I've seen you mention Juliene before Rob, she's up there in $$ but I just like the look of her and I wonder how long she's been for sale and how negotiable they might be now? A King Billy pine hull.....5LW 78hp Gardner........roller furling headsail



http://yachthub.com/list/print_ad.html?de=88939


(do you get the impression that I just like posting pictures of nice looking boats???.............................)

[PeterSibley]

Beautiful boats Greg ! I love the cruiser stern on Kamada .

[Portland]

Greg , yes , Juliene is probably the bench mark on the Aussie boats.
She has it all , a Bernard Wilson double ender , a 5LW , the right deck , everything.
They were asking a lot of money , and she was on the market for a long time , but after her exposure at the Hobart WBF , she sold.
I spoke to the previous owner just after that , he was justifiably proud of her . Apparently going down to Tassie she really flew at one stage , the Bass Strait does that !.
But to be honest , I think I prefer Kamada , I'm just going to be fishing/trolling , after all.
She offers the basic accomodation , and would do the job well.
But that is the style of boat I want , tough , practical , and Bernard made them.
Regards Rob J.

[johnno]

Just out of interest, anyone else use Firefox and have trouble seeing images from boatsonline? I can only see them if I use Explorer.

[rufustr]

I use Firefox John, and I see images on that site.

I havn't changed anything from the default settings in my setup.

Perhaps Gary will be along to suggest something.

[rufustr]

I saw this image over on the Morgan thread.

Does the bloke on the right resemble anyone you know?

[rufustr]

Hint.