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    Default West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    FLO-MO has been working away on the Duck Punt plans and has just sent through first panel layouts and pictures of a paper model.

    Very exciting. It may well be possible to cut her basic hull from just two sheets of ply!



    Bottom Panel



    and the side panels have straight bottom edges, and will cut from one sheet


    This is just terrific work by FLO-MO. Next thing is to make a birch ply model. Hope Dylan is pleased!!!

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    This punt was built of 5 16' boards of 10-12" in width + oak for frames, stem and stern.



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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Daniel,

    That photo is a real beauty! It would make a great jigsaw puzzle...Seriously!

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    I am busy making a birchply scale model of the Duck Punt and often looking at pictures from the duckpunt.org.uk gallery.
    There are some nice pictures too.











    A Duck Punt rowed at the West Mersea Town Regatta

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Thanks Tom,
    Great stuff Flo.

    The punt we built has been a ton of fun this first summer, I am currently working up plans for a set of ice runners for the punt so we can continue sailing it through the winter months.

    the photo below demonstrates the difference in transom style between the West Mersa boats and the Pinky style stern of the punt I designed. I was worried about trying to put that amount of twist in the pine planking we were using and we also wanted a raked transom to knock down the following seas that the punt may encounter near the mouth of the Piscataqua river at Kittery Maine.

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    1:10 scale model of a light weight stitch and tape conversion of the West Mersea Duck Punt

    More pictures of the build




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    You have made a very nice model. What kind of glue are you using? The bottle looks totally unfamiliar.
    Thanks,
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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Quote Originally Posted by keyhavenpotterer View Post
    FLO-MO has been working away on the Duck Punt plans and has just sent through first panel layouts and pictures of a paper model.

    Very exciting. It may well be possible to cut her basic hull from just two sheets of ply!



    Bottom Panel



    and the side panels have straight bottom edges, and will cut from one sheet


    This is just terrific work by FLO-MO. Next thing is to make a birch ply model. Hope Dylan is pleased!!!

    Brian
    The Duck Punt looks a lot like the Cheap Canoe and the Nice Canoe in this photo display.
    http://www.bateau.com/boats/NC16/index.html
    Having paddled a Cheap Canoe extensively you gentlmen are brave indeed puting a sail on something that narrow.

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    I don't believe it is as narrow as those are... by about 10-12" or so and they are also 19' long so they have the additional stability provided by the length.
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    absolutely stunning

    the boat looks fantastic

    I wish now that I had not been so impatient about making a start

    I am calling mine the mark 1 uberlight duck punt

    I can confirm that it is light enough to be carried by myself with it over my shoulder

    it has come out really solid aand strong

    your bouyancy tanks look great

    as for those worried about capsizing

    the boat is three feet wide

    my guess is that it will be pretty stable and as long as you can avoid getting the rigged jammed then it will not get blown over

    aiming for a january 1st launch for the trial boat

    Once I know how this sails and if I can enjoy it I am going to make a flomo version as the mark two

    I was amazed how quickly mine came together

    I reckon it really is a one week build

    sacrilage I know but if it sails okay then it would make a great little boat to produce in tupperware with wooden spars

    so simple

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    Good luck on your maiden sail Dylan. For anyone wondering how these cool boats sail, here's 4 videos. After watching them I guarantee you will wish you were with Dylan on the 1ST.








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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulC View Post
    You have made a very nice model. What kind of glue are you using? The bottle looks totally unfamiliar.
    Thanks,
    Paul


    Cyanacrylate glue with a hypodermic needle attached to constantly apply a small amount of glue exactly along the joint that is temporarily connected with adhesive tape. The viscosity of the glue takes care that the joint gets filled with a sufficient amount of glue.

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Flo Mo

    your model looks so good

    One minor change I might make

    the floor might not take the weight of the mast step

    it flexed on mine - so I extended the floor boards forwards under the mast gate and put the step onto the boards

    so far it seems to look pretty good

    just the varnishing to go and then I can take it for the first sail

    I am full of admiration for your work

    excellent

    Dylan

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    The West Mersa boats seem to show a full frame just aft of the mast step an another a little ahead, we steped the mast directly on top of our forward frame as is common in a sailing dory and there is no flex, there is little down pressure on these masts as they are unstayed and only have the pressure of the sail uphaul pushing down into the boat.

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    what size ply did you use?

    what is the floor made of?

    can you pick the boat up by yourself?

    any need for floor boards?

    D

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Noyes View Post
    This punt was built of 5 16' boards of 10-12" in width + oak for frames, stem and stern.


    See above...

    1: no ply, solid boards
    2: see #1
    3: at 12 or so feet...presumably
    4: see #1 and post #15...looks like the hull planking is the floor boarding.
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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    above is correct
    LOA is 14' and the boat is likely over 100 lbs I can lift it but I am 6' 120lbs and in decent shape, the easiest way to get it around is dragging it or putting a little dolly wheel under it.

    we have not built floor boards for it yet but they are on the to do list.

    incredible how well these little craft sail with no foils except the oar in the water, you can clearly see in the photo how well the boat points from the waves and flag on far bank, lots of fun rowing sailing and canoeing

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    I am 6' 120lbs
    Severely undernourished for an Yankee
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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    I wonder if the addition of chine runners like Paradox's would do any good?




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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Dylan has posted his first sail video in the Misc Boating section so some may have missed it as I did. he seems mighty pleased with her. There are two versions - for slow and faster broadband.

    http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/ktl-4-north-norfolk-and-the-wash/ktl-247-duck-punt-first-sail/

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Steve the idea of using chine runners certainly looks very interesting. It would be very interesting to build two boats one "with" and one "without" to see if there was a major improvement. That said, Dylan looks to be managing very well with the boat as built. His big grin says it all

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    sorry

    two or three duck punt threads running at once

    but these are my thoughts after two hours of sailing in tideless fresh water in a four knot breeze

    I am sure it would be possible to add chine runners - you could probably extend the bottom panel a bit

    but the punt seems perfectly close winded to me provided you let it heel a bit

    and a stroke of the oar has a miraculous impact

    the oar can also be used to cut sideways motion

    Gavin Atkin suggested that I did not put anything on the bottom of the boat as that might make it harder to tack

    it did seem to need a stroke or two to get through the wind - but I think with a bit of exoperience and the right gbreeze that might not be necessary

    I shall see how the bottom survives the intended abuse

    I want to keep the hull as light as possible so that I can manhandle it myself - and maybe even tow it behind a bike

    more wood is more weight and if you don't need it....

    there was a bloke out sailing a laser and he was outpointing us .... but not by much and there did not seem to be much in the way of terrible leeway

    lots of experimenting to do with sailing techniques before I start messing with the design

    but all round I am astonished


    I reckon in the right breeze you could steer this thing no hands - just by shifting your leg inboard and outboard

    having been a sailor for 50 years I thought that the time was past for me trying something new

    I did have a go at windsurfing - hated it

    I am too old for kite surfing

    this is a whole new experience afloat and I love it

    I really do suggest that if you can get hold of an oppy rig then you might as well slap one of these together and get on the water for some real fun

    the plans are spreading around the web and flo-mos version should be a little cracker


    it is sailing stripped to its bare essentials


    and it feels stupidly fast because you are so low in the water

    I realy can't wait to get it up to North Norfolk

    Dylan

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    I wonder if the addition of chine runners like Paradox's would do any good?Having external chines a la Bolger would simplify the construction no end. By wrapping the sides round some temporary moulds or even the frames, the external chine and bottom would go on no problem.

    Nick

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Any comments on rowing these boats. The beam is quite narrow, and the oars on one of the photos looks rather short....

    If I was to sail one of these, it would be in an area with tides up to 4-5 knots in the channels. It migth not be necessary to fight the current al the way home. But power to at least get to calmer waters would be rather welcome.

    Anyway it seems tempting to build one of these...

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    As an avid reader of anything posted or produced by Dylan Winter, I became aware of the West Mersea Duck Punt through his videos. His construction video, access to the plans, and links to the Flo-mo design got me hooked. I started a build a few days ago. It looks like I will be building something in between the well constructed West Mersea Duck Punt, and the lighter Fl-mo design. I have just the location on the Colorado River bordering California and Arizona to sail her on.



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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    I paddle mine with a kayak double bladed paddle

    the other thing is that it draws so little you can usually sail out of the worst of the tiide

    D

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    I love the stern of this version, looks like a little galleon...Andy

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Somebody said the Duck Punt was heavy, but I don't know which version they were talking about. How much does the Flo-Mo Stitch and Tape version weigh?

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    Default Re: West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

    Quote Originally Posted by tmaccabe View Post
    Somebody said the Duck Punt was heavy, but I don't know which version they were talking about. How much does the Flo-Mo Stitch and Tape version weigh?
    the punt I built is heavy, pine and oak, I can just lift it.

    Callsign222 built Flo Mo's boat, it is light enough to lift comfortably and walk a short way, two can lift it with ease onto a car, mabey it's 80 lbs? it's also +- 2' longer, couple inches less freeboard and noticeably faster than my punt. check out his storys in the misc. boat related forum, lots of fun!

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