West Mersea Duck Punt simple S+T version - first studies and paper model.

[keyhavenpotterer]

FLO-MO has been working away on the Duck Punt plans and has just sent through first panel layouts and pictures of a paper model.

Very exciting. It may well be possible to cut her basic hull from just two sheets of ply!



Bottom Panel



and the side panels have straight bottom edges, and will cut from one sheet


This is just terrific work by FLO-MO. Next thing is to make a birch ply model. Hope Dylan is pleased!!!

Brian

[Daniel Noyes]

This punt was built of 5 16' boards of 10-12" in width + oak for frames, stem and stern.

[Mad Scientist]

Daniel,

That photo is a real beauty! It would make a great jigsaw puzzle...Seriously!

Tom

[flo-mo]

I am busy making a birchply scale model of the Duck Punt and often looking at pictures from the duckpunt.org.uk gallery.
There are some nice pictures too.











A Duck Punt rowed at the West Mersea Town Regatta

[Daniel Noyes]

Thanks Tom,
Great stuff Flo.

The punt we built has been a ton of fun this first summer, I am currently working up plans for a set of ice runners for the punt so we can continue sailing it through the winter months.

the photo below demonstrates the difference in transom style between the West Mersa boats and the Pinky style stern of the punt I designed. I was worried about trying to put that amount of twist in the pine planking we were using and we also wanted a raked transom to knock down the following seas that the punt may encounter near the mouth of the Piscataqua river at Kittery Maine.

[flo-mo]

1:10 scale model of a light weight stitch and tape conversion of the West Mersea Duck Punt

More pictures of the build

[flo-mo]

Slideshow of the 3D-model: http://flo-mo.weebly.com/light-weigh...duck-punt.html

[PaulC]

You have made a very nice model. What kind of glue are you using? The bottle looks totally unfamiliar.
Thanks,
Paul

[Cuyahoga Chuck]

FLO-MO has been working away on the Duck Punt plans and has just sent through first panel layouts and pictures of a paper model.

Very exciting. It may well be possible to cut her basic hull from just two sheets of ply!



Bottom Panel



and the side panels have straight bottom edges, and will cut from one sheet


This is just terrific work by FLO-MO. Next thing is to make a birch ply model. Hope Dylan is pleased!!!

Brian

The Duck Punt looks a lot like the Cheap Canoe and the Nice Canoe in this photo display.
http://www.bateau.com/boats/NC16/index.html
Having paddled a Cheap Canoe extensively you gentlmen are brave indeed puting a sail on something that narrow.

[Lewisboater]

I don't believe it is as narrow as those are... by about 10-12" or so and they are also 19' long so they have the additional stability provided by the length.

[dylan winter]

absolutely stunning

the boat looks fantastic

I wish now that I had not been so impatient about making a start

I am calling mine the mark 1 uberlight duck punt

I can confirm that it is light enough to be carried by myself with it over my shoulder

it has come out really solid aand strong

your bouyancy tanks look great

as for those worried about capsizing

the boat is three feet wide

my guess is that it will be pretty stable and as long as you can avoid getting the rigged jammed then it will not get blown over

aiming for a january 1st launch for the trial boat

Once I know how this sails and if I can enjoy it I am going to make a flomo version as the mark two

I was amazed how quickly mine came together

I reckon it really is a one week build

sacrilage I know but if it sails okay then it would make a great little boat to produce in tupperware with wooden spars

so simple

D

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/ktl...coat-of-paint/

[keyhavenpotterer]

Good luck on your maiden sail Dylan. For anyone wondering how these cool boats sail, here's 4 videos. After watching them I guarantee you will wish you were with Dylan on the 1ST.

[flo-mo]

You have made a very nice model. What kind of glue are you using? The bottle looks totally unfamiliar.
Thanks,
Paul

Cyanacrylate glue with a hypodermic needle attached to constantly apply a small amount of glue exactly along the joint that is temporarily connected with adhesive tape. The viscosity of the glue takes care that the joint gets filled with a sufficient amount of glue.

[dylan winter]

Flo Mo

your model looks so good

One minor change I might make

the floor might not take the weight of the mast step

it flexed on mine - so I extended the floor boards forwards under the mast gate and put the step onto the boards

so far it seems to look pretty good

just the varnishing to go and then I can take it for the first sail

I am full of admiration for your work

excellent

Dylan

[Daniel Noyes]

The West Mersa boats seem to show a full frame just aft of the mast step an another a little ahead, we steped the mast directly on top of our forward frame as is common in a sailing dory and there is no flex, there is little down pressure on these masts as they are unstayed and only have the pressure of the sail uphaul pushing down into the boat.

[dylan winter]

what size ply did you use?

what is the floor made of?

can you pick the boat up by yourself?

any need for floor boards?

D

[Lewisboater]

This punt was built of 5 16' boards of 10-12" in width + oak for frames, stem and stern.

See above...

1: no ply, solid boards
2: see #1
3: at 12 or so feet...presumably
4: see #1 and post #15...looks like the hull planking is the floor boarding.

[Daniel Noyes]

above is correct
LOA is 14' and the boat is likely over 100 lbs I can lift it but I am 6' 120lbs and in decent shape, the easiest way to get it around is dragging it or putting a little dolly wheel under it.

we have not built floor boards for it yet but they are on the to do list.

incredible how well these little craft sail with no foils except the oar in the water, you can clearly see in the photo how well the boat points from the waves and flag on far bank, lots of fun rowing sailing and canoeing

[Lewisboater]

I am 6' 120lbs

Severely undernourished for an Yankee

[Lewisboater]

I wonder if the addition of chine runners like Paradox's would do any good?

[keyhavenpotterer]

Dylan has posted his first sail video in the Misc Boating section so some may have missed it as I did. he seems mighty pleased with her. There are two versions - for slow and faster broadband.

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/ktl-4-north-norfolk-and-the-wash/ktl-247-duck-punt-first-sail/

Brian

[JDMH]

Steve the idea of using chine runners certainly looks very interesting. It would be very interesting to build two boats one "with" and one "without" to see if there was a major improvement. That said, Dylan looks to be managing very well with the boat as built. His big grin says it all

John

[dylan winter]

sorry

two or three duck punt threads running at once

but these are my thoughts after two hours of sailing in tideless fresh water in a four knot breeze

I am sure it would be possible to add chine runners - you could probably extend the bottom panel a bit

but the punt seems perfectly close winded to me provided you let it heel a bit

and a stroke of the oar has a miraculous impact

the oar can also be used to cut sideways motion

Gavin Atkin suggested that I did not put anything on the bottom of the boat as that might make it harder to tack

it did seem to need a stroke or two to get through the wind - but I think with a bit of exoperience and the right gbreeze that might not be necessary

I shall see how the bottom survives the intended abuse

I want to keep the hull as light as possible so that I can manhandle it myself - and maybe even tow it behind a bike

more wood is more weight and if you don't need it....

there was a bloke out sailing a laser and he was outpointing us .... but not by much and there did not seem to be much in the way of terrible leeway

lots of experimenting to do with sailing techniques before I start messing with the design

but all round I am astonished


I reckon in the right breeze you could steer this thing no hands - just by shifting your leg inboard and outboard

having been a sailor for 50 years I thought that the time was past for me trying something new

I did have a go at windsurfing - hated it

I am too old for kite surfing

this is a whole new experience afloat and I love it

I really do suggest that if you can get hold of an oppy rig then you might as well slap one of these together and get on the water for some real fun

the plans are spreading around the web and flo-mos version should be a little cracker


it is sailing stripped to its bare essentials


and it feels stupidly fast because you are so low in the water

I realy can't wait to get it up to North Norfolk

Dylan

[NickW]

I wonder if the addition of chine runners like Paradox's would do any good?Having external chines a la Bolger would simplify the construction no end. By wrapping the sides round some temporary moulds or even the frames, the external chine and bottom would go on no problem.

Nick

[ThorBue]

Any comments on rowing these boats. The beam is quite narrow, and the oars on one of the photos looks rather short....

If I was to sail one of these, it would be in an area with tides up to 4-5 knots in the channels. It migth not be necessary to fight the current al the way home. But power to at least get to calmer waters would be rather welcome.

Anyway it seems tempting to build one of these...

[stanrich]

As an avid reader of anything posted or produced by Dylan Winter, I became aware of the West Mersea Duck Punt through his videos. His construction video, access to the plans, and links to the Flo-mo design got me hooked. I started a build a few days ago. It looks like I will be building something in between the well constructed West Mersea Duck Punt, and the lighter Fl-mo design. I have just the location on the Colorado River bordering California and Arizona to sail her on.



Stan Richards http://stansboat.wordpress.com/

[dylan winter]

I paddle mine with a kayak double bladed paddle

the other thing is that it draws so little you can usually sail out of the worst of the tiide

D

[AndyF]

I love the stern of this version, looks like a little galleon...Andy

[tmaccabe]

Somebody said the Duck Punt was heavy, but I don't know which version they were talking about. How much does the Flo-Mo Stitch and Tape version weigh?

[Daniel Noyes]

Somebody said the Duck Punt was heavy, but I don't know which version they were talking about. How much does the Flo-Mo Stitch and Tape version weigh?

the punt I built is heavy, pine and oak, I can just lift it.

Callsign222 built Flo Mo's boat, it is light enough to lift comfortably and walk a short way, two can lift it with ease onto a car, mabey it's 80 lbs? it's also +- 2' longer, couple inches less freeboard and noticeably faster than my punt. check out his storys in the misc. boat related forum, lots of fun!