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    Geez Greg! Huge difference in colour and much, much better!! Well done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregleetaylor View Post
    Very interesting! In Garden's book he suggests that a hollow mast might be 1.12 pounds per foot while a solid one, 1.67. Garden doesn't mention Sitka but rather Douglass Fir construction and the hollow mast he calculates at 3.5" diameter v. 3.25" for a solid spar. Hard to figure the variance...

    Greg's hollow 1.12 x 16.5 = 18.5 pounds. Actual = 19 pounds(close to Gardens estimate) Ofer's 1.67 x 16.5 = 27.5 pounds. Actual = 23.2 pounds(much lighter(Sitka?) than Garden's estimate.
    Yes, it's all Sitka. I feel better after seeing your calculations (being on the lighter side of a solid mast)

    Ofer

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregleetaylor View Post
    More interesting! I will go weigh my boom and gaff! They are both unvarnished and both much heavier than yours ... I'm guessing here, my solid Sitka boom will be 7.5 pounds, we will see...


    8-18-18 update.

    Boom and gaff weighed without bronze spar ends:

    Boom is 8.5 pounds
    Gaff is 4.5 pounds
    From an engineering perspective, probably the Gaff wight is more critical being on the top of the mast with a big lever when the boat is tilting.

    Ofer

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregleetaylor View Post
    I like this color, thank goodness! Pix with floorboards layed in after this hardens up a bit...



    Minty!

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    Putting back the furniture, I found a number of instances where the finish is causing the fitting to be too tight... having to do minor little sizing adjustments...



    Last edited by gregleetaylor; 08-22-2018 at 10:59 AM.

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    Looks first rate Greg! good color choice

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    Thanks yawl... Finally. On with the deck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregleetaylor View Post
    Thanks yawl... Finally. On with the deck!
    Glad to see you ketching up

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    I had to, schooner or laser...

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    Finishing paint and varnish as I prepare to finally install...





    Varnishing teak spindles, blocks, seat supports. Pictures when all coats are done...

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    So very nice and neat. Looks great, Greg.
    "near it, a small whale-boat, painted red and blue, the delight of the king's old age."

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    Thank you Mike, you should see the rest of my basement!!! Disaster, end to end!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregleetaylor View Post
    I had to, schooner or laser...
    That's pretty good...

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    that color looks familiar... Boat is looking great!

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    Agree in spades! and just to clear up an abominable error on my part regarding my Spar Weights - reweighed and redone figures below!!!

    Boom SHOULD READ 5.2kg or 11.46lb
    Gaff SHOULD READ 2.8kg or 6.17lb

    Many apologies.

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    Furniture installation close to complete. Getting started on deck supports




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    Looks great.

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    It’s clear you have gone off the plans with the coaming being straight port to starboard in the stern area. I gather this is an effort to create more cockpit space?

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    Hey there Laurie!

    Nah, i just haven't shown the next steps where the blanks for the deck supports are being fitted. I'll have some curves in there and up forward pretty soon...

    Best, Greg

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    Recent progress



    ...just noticed the stb side of deck beam has slipped down in it's mortice... gotta glue that deck beam in...
    Last edited by gregleetaylor; 10-19-2018 at 09:26 AM. Reason: tailoring

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    Looks good. Is that a 1 1/2 wood? I ended up adding support below the deck supports.

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    Yes, standard fir lumber. I bought some 2", old growth douglas fir but decided against it due to its very heavy weight and because it is overly large. It appears that 1 1/2" will do the job and, as you say, it can be supplemented as needed.

    Flat ish deck supports and needed camber..



    ...and current deck support above sheer...



    marking out outline for combing






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    Now you're talkin'! A bit of a different take to what the plans denote up for'ard but will provide a more solid deck space I'm sure.

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    One thing that I forgot to do before putting the dack is to mark the location of the frames so I can use it when connecting the rub-rails.

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    Laurie,

    Despite pouring over the plans, I just couldn't seem to put the deck supports in according to them. The long boards are much wider than they needed to be!

    Ofer,

    Thanks, I wouldn't have thought of that!

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    Add another miss-step (error) to this build... I was measuring offsets to draw the curve of the cockpit combing. The very last offset landed in mid air! Upon measuring, the aft deck beam was installed 1 1/4" inches too far forward. It took me all of one night to decide to cut it out to make a new one.

    too far forward:



    deck beam-ectomy



    New beam dry fit:



    and a bit of actual progress; cut a pair of dadoes


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    Minor setback, keep grinding her out!

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    I see what you did there Mr Arthur... Right back at it JW! Stern supports all fitted tonight.

    You all have some good looking weather for The Chick and James Jim... I'll be in Annapolis with Bets Sunday and Monday for a brief hiatus. Picking up the ply for deck and combing. This trip seems to be the spouse trip! Best of times to you!
    Last edited by gregleetaylor; 10-29-2018 at 10:27 PM. Reason: figured out joke

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    getting there... most of the deck supports are close to getting glued in... fairing the deck crown and final trim of the cockpit bevel to follow


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    Greg, do you have the traveler already? if you do, see that you have some wood support under the place where the traveler connect to the deck.

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    Ofer,

    I'm tying to get one ordered but so far, no answer. The big blocks in the corners were sized to take the traveler (46"++ per plans).

    On the deck; the combing height above deck seems to vary from larger at the beam to smallest at the bow. Is that true or is it the plan profile not showing the deck camber well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregleetaylor View Post
    Ofer,

    I'm tying to get one ordered but so far, no answer. The big blocks in the corners were sized to take the traveler (46"++ per plans).

    On the deck; the combing height above deck seems to vary from larger at the beam to smallest at the bow. Is that true or is it the plan profile not showing the deck camber well?
    It's hard to say. From the side view, it looks like the coaming is following the sheer line. In my boat, I kept the coaming high 3-1/2" above the deck and I like the result. Since the coaming is also used as the back for the seat, I would keep it around 6" in any case.

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    OK thanks Ofer, this helps. Yours looks right!

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    ... always like to visit Annapolis; Sunday was fine but Monday was rainy all day.





    Picked up some epoxy and plywood from Ches. Light Craft and got it home only a little damp...



    Honed a shaver and cut the rolling bevel into the deck supports, pretty tough and big thanks to forumites for the tip on making a quick bevel reference tool (pic later)



    ...will seal and paint the bottoms and then glue all this deck stuff in. Oh, i have to finish the mast partner/breasthook too...

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    ... underside of deck supports sealed with epoxy and painted...



    ... marking location of center so that the hole can be cut for the mast...



    4 1/2" hole saw carefully guided at 11 degree angle through 1" ply... 1 1/2 hours to set up, maybe 15 mins to cut...



    Additional deck support to be added and drilled to allow for making camber over top... will be much easier to shape than the plywood...

    I'll glue the fir down to the ply, shape the deck camber, break out the hole saw again, seal and paint the bottom and the epoxy the whole thing into the bow.

    Last edited by gregleetaylor; 11-10-2018 at 04:06 PM. Reason: Taylor typo

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