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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    One of my favorite early model pure jet interceptors. First flight in 1956.

    From runway to 60,000ft in 6 minutes!

    Not bad, but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan McCosh View Post
    Didn't know that there was film of it flying.
    Was only supposed to be a taxi test, I guess Howard decided mid test to show his detractors it would fly. He must have hoped to fly it again, he kept a crew to maintain it in a climate controlled hanger until his death. eight 4,000 horsepower P&W wasps....WoW

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    It was on display in Long Beach for years, where I once took a tour. It's in Oregon now at an at air museum.

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    Well if we're going big.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Well if we're going big.
    Is that Ian talking on this video?
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Then of course there is really really big.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

    John Welsford

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Is that Ian talking on this video?
    No but it wouldn't surprise me.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

    John Welsford

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    This wasn't a bad little aeroplane...

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    The DeHavilland Mosquito



    Pioneered cored wood composite construction.

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    A relation of mine did a few transats in Concordes. He said it was cramped and a waste of good money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purri View Post
    He said it was cramped and a waste of good money.
    so is coach on an airbus. . .
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purri View Post
    A relation of mine did a few transats in Concordes. He said it was cramped and a waste of good money.
    Maybe, but being a regular dude and going Mach 1 IS cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wardd View Post
    The B-36 featured prominently in Strategic Air Command (1955) with Jimmy Stewart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Sinister?
    A few of these can destroy and suck the air out of an entire town and you won't even know they are up there till it's too late.
    I'm on board with this one. Saw one up close at an air show a few years ago. My neighbor, who was with me, asked, "How much do you think it costs just to get this thing up in the air?"

    I replied, "Somewhere in the ballpark of the GDP of the country it's about to remove from the map."
    \"A little too tall, coulda used a few pounds...\"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimConlin View Post
    The DeHavilland Mosquito



    Pioneered cored wood composite construction.
    WW2 bankrupted the Brits but in the 50s and 60s they still managed to develop and build some superb aircraft.
    Great low level action by a Vulcan at the end.
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=30284
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    The airplane is a US invention, and most of the great aircraft have been and are American.

    But, after thinking about it, the coolest plane ever built has to be Concorde, the daughter of the TSR2 and granddaughter of the Vulcan by way of the Comet, the Caravelle and the Mirage and the finest product of the British and French aircraft industrires.

    The only way for people who were not fighter pilots to go supersonic, and, beyond all doubt, the most beautiful airliner, ever.

    And Concorde begat...Airbus...



    Oh, well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbelow View Post
    Seen a B36 prop engine. Odd looking piston arrangement , a spiraled radial.
    Yup, P&W Wasps, simialr to what Hughes used in the 'Goose


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    The airplane is a US invention, and most of the great aircraft have been and are American.
    you trying to flame bigfella? where is ian anyway??
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    The airplane is a US invention, .....
    Oh, well...
    Did George Cayley, Les freres Mongolfier, Alberto Santos-Dumont et al. live entirely in vain.


    Oh Well indeed - still at least space exploration is essentially a German invention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Adams View Post
    Yup, P&W Wasps, similar to what Hughes used in the 'Goose
    Wasp Major, a four row radial (4 rows of seven cylinders), with 56 spark plugs (all of which would foul, and have to be replaced, if you did not start it properly) and 56 valves, each of which had to be set manually, and a period between overhauls of 600 hours, which is not very long, if you think about it...

    ...and explains why airlines were so very happy to get rid of their Boeing Stratocruisers, which also had this engine. Lockheed Super Constellations had 18 cylinder engines with rather fewer bits (but still plenty of them) and a longer service interval...

    ...but the B36 had six Wasp Majors, so it had 336 spark plugs and 336 valves, and since it would not fit inside most hangars, the valve setting and spark plug swapping had to be done in the fresh air.../ pouring rain / freezing snow / desert heat

    ...but the really good bit, according to Wikipedia, anyway, was that Convair put the six engines in back to front, which was not what Pratt and Whitney had in mind, so instead of sitting in nice warm air the carburetor sat out in the cold, and iced up, causing the mixture to become over rich, causing unburned fuel to burn in the exhaust manifold, causing engine fires...
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    It kind of amazes me ... and yet it doesn't ... that so many wooden boat nuts are also airheads.
    I admire cool airplanes, enjoy looking at the pictures here with Scooter(she loves airplanes), and have been to several airshows that I thoroughly enjoyed.

    But ... to me ... the absolute, coolest plane ever built, bar none, was the Stanley 110.
    I can make it fly straight and level.
    It's awesome in an outside curve.
    In the proper hands it can take you places that are off the map.

    This isn't mine. Mine is prettier and kept in a special box, engraved with my initials by my daughter Bear when she was six-


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    you trying to flame bigfella? where is ian anyway??
    Ian is off riding one of his motorbikes to Cape York I think? Something like that anyway, my eyes tend to glaze over when they start talking about motorbikes.
    My take is that if you poke someone with a sharp stick they'll get annoyed, if you smile and shake their hand they will be your friends.

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    That B-36 engine may look "spiral" but it is really a Tripple Row Reciprocating engine (like 3 radials in tandem) with each row offset a bit in the interest of optimum cooling. After all, it is "air-cooled".

    Moby Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    That B-36 engine may look "spiral" but it is really a Tripple Row Reciprocating engine (like 3 radials in tandem) with each row offset a bit in the interest of optimum cooling. After all, it is "air-cooled".

    Moby Nick
    but can you marinize it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzer View Post
    If I had a pilot's license and could choose any aircraft to own this would be it.

    I'm with you, I love the 38.

    I liked the night variant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    That B-36 engine may look "spiral" but it is really a Tripple Row Reciprocating engine (like 3 radials in tandem) with each row offset a bit in the interest of optimum cooling. After all, it is "air-cooled".

    Moby Nick
    Actually, there are four rows of seven cylinders each.

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    One of the more unusual uses for the Pratt & Whitney R-4360 engine (B-36, etc.) was in Frank Sanders' one-off Hawker Sea Fury racer, nicknamed Dreadnought. My friend Neal Anderson was its pilot at many Reno air races.

    http://www.sandersaircraft.com/aircraft_dreadnought.asp

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    SR71, coolest hands down.

    O wait, on the other side of the scale, the BD5 "personal jet".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Adams View Post
    Nice to see a Vulcan still flying. Coolest ever? Debatable. As far as bombers go, this is in the running:

    (XB-70 video)
    Oh hell yes. You beat me to it.

    Takeoff roll was impressively short on the Vulcan, but I'm sure it was unloaded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbelow View Post
    Bob , thank you for the pic. Amazing engine. If I remember correctly, it turned a 19 ft. prop.
    I know all radial engines are air cooled but I don't see any cooling fins.... if I didn't know better, I'd say that engine is liquid cooled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    I flew a lot of miles in Comet IV's as a boy.

    Noisier than the Brittannias they replaced but I didn't mind because it was a jet! My first experience of jet type take offs, but the VC10 was the plane for real rapid getaways as it was grossly overpowered due to BOAC insisting that it should be able to take off on full load from Nairobi in summer...

    Not quite sure why British designers were so keen on burying the engines in the wing roots. It certainly made the cabin noisy.

    I also flew a lot in the Comet's relative, the Sud-Aviation Caravelle (the Caravelle had the entire nose and cockpit of the Comet, bought as a job lot from De Havilland, along with some other bits. Caravelles, being French, were "different", and had triangular windows, a boarding ramp in the rear of the fuselage and the engines at the back which made them quiet.
    You're right about the VC10, a superb aircraft, it had had significantly higher thrust-to-weight than the early 707, and could thus operate from short runways and high/hot conditions. But as I recall, so did the Comet 1, but I can't find the specs online, only for the Comet 4.

    Engines buried in the airfoil are more aerodynamically efficient. But I never liked the design because it's not as fire-safe as with nacelles; with the latter, the engine can melt off and a safe landing is still possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    SR71, coolest hands down.

    O wait, on the other side of the scale, the BD5 "personal jet".
    Oysh. Don't go there. As a youngster, I also thought the BD5 was cool. Deathtraps. As shown in detail on Wikipedia (not the first I have known of this though) Bede was a bit of a huckster and cut both corners and ethics on multiple designs. Lots of people lost money, a good number of folks died too. Only Bede designs that are flying are due to the sheer determination of their owners to correct serious design deficiencies on their own dime.
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    I stand corrected; thought it was tree rows of nine. Makes sense; more roon fior air between cylinders. Actually, I was atempting to count the cylinders in a "row" (circle) just by looking at the near side appearing in the photo and it seemed more like seven than nine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaotis View Post
    I know all radial engines are air cooled but I don't see any cooling fins.... if I didn't know better, I'd say that engine is liquid cooled.
    this pic better shows the fins

    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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