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    Could anyone let me know if there are wood plans for this boat?
    Can it be built in wood ?

    Thoughts on this boat over Gray Seal, Ian's beauty

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    The answer is probably no Sam L Morse Co Inc Costa Messa,CA may still be building these lovely Trailerable? craft in glass.The good news is Lyle C Hess the designer is still selling plans for the 24 foot Renegfade, available in a gaff to boot.
    Plans where 500US about 10 years ago available from Lyles daughter.Good luck

    Lyle C Hess 5911 E. Sring Street, 360 Long Beach,Ca 90808

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    Default Re: Falmouth cutter 22

    According to Lin and Larry Pardey,

    Lyle Hess Plans: Change of Address
    Posted on September 1st, 2009 Webmaster No comments

    The plans for boats designed by the late Lyle C. Hess including those for the Falmouth 30 (the ones we used for Taleisin) can now be obtained by writing to Linda de Coux (Lyle’s daughter) at:

    P.O. box 2849
    Fullerton, California 92837

    You can also leave a message at 1-714-680-0400 and Linda will either call or email within a few days.
    For a list of plans and their cost, take a look at our cruising tips for 2007. Lyle Hess Plans are listed there.

    http://www.landlpardey.com/lyle-hess...f-address.html
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    Thanks for the correction Peter,proving time catches up with us sooner or later
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    Speaking of corrections, the Sam L. Morse company has gone by the boards. Cape George Marine Works of Port Townsend Washington bought the molds and is currently offering the BCC and Falmouth 22. Time marches on...
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    are we talking about an ORIGINAL falmouth 22 working boat from Falmouth ,England?? Wood boat plans avaliable from Percy Dalton.

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    Default Re: Falmouth cutter 22

    Is there a similar model built in wood ?
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    Is there a boat similar to this boat one can build in wood ?
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    Falmouth working boats were all originally built in wood,it was only later that Terry Heard started to produce replicas in grp, still making them too i believe. Oysters are still dragged in Falmouth Roads under sail by these working boats,they are not allowed to use power. These are the real working boats,and fine sea boats to boot.

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    This is perfection
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    That one looks bigger - perhaps 28ft. The smaller size was the Tosher at 20ft. Closer to the 22ft you ask for. A new one was built recently and is for sale. Some pics...




    Details (currently for sale)
    http://www.boat-list.com/462-listing.asp

    Nice video of a grp 'Heard' built Tosher 20



    You could also look at the Itchen Ferries. Size from 20 to 28ft in Dixon Kemp if your looking for that kind of thing. There's also Dongray's Golant Gaffer. Depends on preferred building (Golant - Strip, Tosher etc proper carvel, Grey Seal - clinker ply, Gartside Surprise - double planked)

    Gartside has 22ft Surprise...that he built himself...plans must be highly resolved.
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    Being really practical about it, unless you are a boatbuilder experienced in that type of construction, in comparison with a clinker plywood boat like Gray Seal the carvel planked steamed framed solid wood Falmouth Cutter or similar will take double the labour to build if not more, the skill level required is much higher and the cost likely to be rather more.
    If you want to enjoy the woodworking, go for it, if you want to get the thing in the water fairly soon and go sailing, build yourself a Gray Seal or similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LenD. View Post
    Could anyone let me know if there are wood plans for this boat?
    Can it be built in wood ?

    Thoughts on this boat over Gray Seal, Ian's beauty

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    I am in the middle of building a nutshell pram joel white design 9 foot sail, Next is an Auklet Ian's design. I am an intermediate builder but by no means an expert.
    Love the Gray seal but very small below compared to the falmouth 22. I agree a much easier way of building a boat.
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    What do you want to do with this boat? Theres a big difference in displacement beyond the proportion of space between the two,most of the space is below the floorboards in a Famouth working boat,and none of those i have been aboard fitted with a cabin had standing headroom,but this type will be much more expensive to build than a greyseal. Will second KHP on Itchen Ferry types,immaculate sailors and fine sea boats for their size. Cheers

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    Just took a ook at the Falmouth 22 web site. Looks just like the traditional wooden hulls,but the deck has been raised to where the bulwark would have been ,and the doghouse and rise of crown has been increased.....ok....so you can stand up in one of these. Theres one for sale fully equipped for ocean cruising for $48,000......what do you think it will cost you to build one?

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    An interesting boat is the Tradewind Atoll.


    She was initially designed for multichine steel plate construction, but was later made in GRP. That could probably mean she could be built from plywood. A very stout gaffer. 25ft 4.5 ton. Chaps webiste/ blog for more pics.
    http://www.johnson-uk.info/

    Very similar to Blue moon, plans sold by our hosts, bang on 22ft.


    Similar to Grey Seal, there's also Albert Strange's Wenda, plans sold by our hosts.

    http://www.woodenboatstore.com/249-C...tinfo/400-093/

    For a small carvel double ender there's John Alden's Alibi

    http://www.aldendesigns.com/cutter-s...eel/d0406.html

    I'd say the Grey Seal would be the best as a daysailer or weekender, long keelers are generally slower to turn in and out of narrow rivers. Oughtred's plans are also very detailed and while she'd also be able to go a long way, the bigger heavier gaffers would be more able to accomodate the extra stores and equipment for long distance work. There was a nice article on Grey Seal in last years Small boat supplement from Wooden Boat magazine. Looked really nice, but you can only really work on building a glued plywood boat in the summer in temperate regions as its too cold in the winter to use glue's easily, unless youve got or are prepared to pay for supplementary heating. Some new epoxies and resorcinol can be used at lower temps though. There are many advantages to plywood, but in real wood's favour, you can build outside independent of temperature, real woods much cheaper than most plywood now, its always available locally, and you can keep on working - no waiting for adhesives to go off till the next day. Boats usually worth more finished too.
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    I was just persuing the Albert Strange Assoc. web pages last night and downloaded the lines of Physco, very similar to Wenda, an absolute classic,guarenteed to get people dribbling over your decks...... nice pic Brian,thanks for posting that....more canoe yawl porn.....

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    Yes you can find the FC 22 for as little as 43 000 fully loaded and I might buy one if I could sell my CC 29 MII. If I build the investment is not all at once and I do not need the boat for a few years as I have the other boat. If anyone want to purchase my cc or trade for a FC 22 let me know add on Kijiji.ca c+c 29 Mark II.
    Not sure I could buld a boat other than clinker plywood. i would love to ,however skill base not readily available. Here is what I sail now
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    Blue moon is a very attractive boat. I will have to chek out the details
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    Blue moon was a favourite of mine,there was a steel version at 25ft being built in the boatyard i lived, was incredibly beamy for its length,masses of storage. Would not go to weather as fast as a Fal working boat, but pointing ability is not everything when cruising (many will disagree).The bluewater 25 was derived from these plans,which were derived from the orignal 22ft boat drawn by Gilmour. I always thought the chined version could be knocked up from plywood, but that steel boat,with those flush decks and gaff rig,will go anywhere,not to say the wooden one cant, but the steel one went North.....way north to Greenland...and spent some time in pack ice,not sure i fancy that in a wooden boat unless specially built for it. Anyway,chined blue moon maybe an easier build for you than plank on frame,but any of these round bilge boats could be done in strip plank or cold moulded ply/veneer......depends on how sticky you want to get. Not cheap tho.......

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    If you like Oughtred, but want a cutter type, he also has the Farne Islander 20. Not so publicised, plans a little less detailed, and lighter displacement. There's one for sale built by McNulty professionally in the Uk at the moment with a diesel. 16k asking. Could ship it out in a container. is weak at minute.

    http://www.boatingworldsw.co.uk/#/br...ail/4527317701
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaraborgcraft View Post
    What do you want to do with this boat? Theres a big difference in displacement beyond the proportion of space between the two,most of the space is below the floorboards in a Famouth working boat,and none of those i have been aboard fitted with a cabin had standing headroom,but this type will be much more expensive to build than a greyseal. Will second KHP on Itchen Ferry types,immaculate sailors and fine sea boats for their size. Cheers
    The question remains LenD. I gather from following this great thread pictures ideas ect,you are planning to cast of the ropes in time to come. Well may I suggest you have a capable CC29 . Your craft can be singlehanded all you need is a windvane,storage and space is good, certanly will shine to weather,easely clock of 100KM days .Yes there are limitations mostly noticeable when the barometer stats dropping rapidly.I considerd a CC 29 in a trip down the West Coast from Nanaimo BC through Panama into Carib but sailed a ALBERG 30 instead. Understandably a CC will never live up to a FC with its great layout and classic style.

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    Default Re: Falmouth cutter 22

    The Oughtred Farne Islander is a lovely thing - a very nice,trailable interpretation but a very different kind of boat to the Falmouth working boat.
    The displacement and volume is a fraction of the real thing.
    I'd like one though !
    And don't that Gartside Surprise look sweet beached.
    I'd like one of those too.

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    There's a Hess's 24ft cutter for sale in the UK right now. Link here to take a look. It says its a bit modified in layout here and there, but worth a snoop to see what there like maybe...price is a bit steep.


    http://uk.yachtworld.com/core/listin...url=&imc=pg-fs

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    This is the brokerage site in the Uk that lists the West Country gaff cutters. The specialize in wooden boat brokerage. They have a real original Falmouth boat 26ft on brokerage at the minute, if you fancy looking at how they actually are/ were...



    http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...roker&lineonly

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    That Hess boat is mighty expensive for what it is,that will be on the market for a long time if the price is not flexible. I will second auscruisertom statement that you already own a boat that can cruise,which takes us back to the question of what you plan? One of the most travelled couples i know have circumnavigated 4 times,without fuss,in an old Trapper 28 grp sloop. I wanted a Venus 28 before i went off cruising, but i went in what i had,got me to all the places a venus would,if not more,but about a 70% less living room below decks. Theres a lot to be said for going now....unless of course you have a good reason why not? Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LenD. View Post


    This is perfection
    What a great pic! What boat and/or designer???

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    Looks like a Heard 28 to me, though may be wrong. Built by Heards in Mylor, UK. Company was called Gaffers and Luggers. GRP hulls but ply decks. Lots of the have needed deck replacing. Workboat type finish with galavanised fittings etc. There's an association for the Heards. They did a Picarooner, a Tosher 18 a Tosher 20, a Falmouth Working Boat 23 and a 28. They also did a few mid 30fters and one or two real big gaffer/ pilot cutters...they sold moldings as well as finished boats, so they vary in finish. You could have a cabin on the 28 or a flush deck by using lead ballast to give more boat depth. All heavy displacement. Some open boats some cabin'd. Some without engines some with. Some for racing some for cruising. There all different. Nice gallery and boats for sale there too. Called Gaffers and Luggers Association.





    http://www.galawebsite.co.uk/
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    Thanks for the thoughts on my cc29. I have begun preping it for a cruise around Newfoundland and Labrador coast. Sailed a bit down there and fell in love with the people , land and ports. I think the cc29 could do it . The biggest trip I think we will do in a boat is that trip and inter coastal down to bahamas. A lot of peple on another sailing forum have replied that the cc29 is not a good boat for such trips. I have been out in 45 knot winds reefed working jib plugging along nicely. It was a very bumpy ride but we were not worried. I have done a lot of repairs to make sure this boat is like new. upgraded every new parts.
    I also love building smaller vessles like the Auk and prams.
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    Envey you on that Newfoundland trip,its on my bucket list. I would think a third reefing point in your main as advisable, if not already there. When considering the cc previously I might have added an inner forestay, stiffens up mast and also usefull in flying a very SMALLl storm jib. Also install a seperate track on main mast where a small trysail might be set independent of your boom. The boom then lashed to coachroof or prefferably in a gallow. The trysail coud live in a bag at bottom of mast with heavy sheet attached permently. good luck

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    Three reefs in a main and a good storm jib,in my experience,will get a lightweight boat like this through most things. I have met very few people who even carried a trysail onboard,let alone tried to put the thing up when its already blowing a hooley....not to say trysails are bad things,but the set up has to be easy and quick,or it will never get used. Depends on your budget too, fine if you can afford it.

    Having just looked up the specs of a cc29,you have a 8000lb boat with ballast keel of nearly 48%. Is that the correct numbers? If so,i dont see what the problem is unless you have one of those really skinny fin keels,and she broaches too easily running downwind........easily solved by slowing down or trailing a few warps. Not really my cup of tea,but for $15,000 ready to go,theres no way i would spend $48,000 on a Fal 22........AND,if i could afford the $48k, you can find better boats for the same dollar,IMHO.
    Labrador and Newfoundland....interesting,hope to see it too one day.
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    The key with the CC and other lightweight finn to morerate finns is when the wind gets up these modern yachts will just keep moving faster.While this may be a real adrenolin rush with a fully crewed racer,it presents a real problem in short handed cruising. I've had to hand steer 14 hours non stop broad reching, closing the Washington coast strong NW seas to 4M breaking frequently, yacht started broaching repeatedley under windvane. Modern boats are very responsive similar to sportcars,my stategy simply involved keeping an eye out for the heavy breaks then changing course from a run broad reach to a close reach meeting the break,spray flying changing back, racing down the back of the wave. Great stuff, after 5 hrs your partner decides to give it a try immediately broaches badly, I survey the yacht for additional damage none found. The weatercloth are in tatters part of the dodger met the same fate,our trusty round deckbrush was sheared of below the head where it rested upright on the stern pulpit.and I soon lost sight of our life ring and man overboard light that night of our first broach. But we had left Hawai at the right time end of June and had some great sailing and fishing the first four days,until we hit our first low. Just prior to our broach I had been in the cockpit watching our Conbtessa 32 sailing rather fast under try sail and storm jib even though it was a bumpy ride,I confidently turned in latching the third board in the companionway leaving a small 5 inch gap,big mistake! Our broach ended with a complete knockdown,about 4 inches of water above the floorboards gimbeld stove in the middle of floor,along with plates ect,cockpit ful lof water. Luckily storm sails are up and after pumping cockpit I heave us to. After an anxious night I observe the very large waves with a secondary swell coming in from the NNW this probably caused a rouge wave. The next two weeks were hard work expiriencing another six gales. When passagemaking large Pacific systems are usually predictable and follow patterns,calm before storm motor a number of hours,full sails working down to storm sails during the next 24 hours or so , after storm passes increase sail. The trysail was used severall more times you simply drop the main in the gallows, take permently hanked trysail out of its bag wrap the sheet around the winch and tighten.Not only does it save a lot of wear and tear on the main,it also reduces the amount of heel expirienced. Our passagefrom Hanale Kaui to Victoria Canada took 21 days,boats leaving behind us where becalmed some taking 45 days. Friends sailing a 34 foot gaff ketch sailed somewhat slower and claimed not to have taken down the genoa Gaffers rule CHEERS

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    LOL, have to laugh about the gaff ketch bit, helped a friend get his colin archer replica from mainland Spain to Ibiza, in a very hard blow, when i suggested reefing,he just laughed. She did have very heavy sails and was not exactly overcanvassed for normal weather,but she made light work of heavy weather in true Colin Archer style.

    I went right off narrow fin keelers after a delivery to the Canaries from UK. Heavy following seas from 7 days of stiff NE winds,made for very steep seas,with very little fetch between them,yacht would take off at 12knots at whatever course it felt
    comfortable while you had your feet on the cabin bulkhead to stop falling forward out the cockpit, the tiller on "opposite lock" trying to get her stern into the following wave that was about to dump on you. It was probably a combination of too narrow a chord on the keel,and not large enough rudder. I have had my days of surfing down waves in pitch darkness. Cheers

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    C&C 29
    (Mk II)

    Specifications:


    L.O.A.: 28' 6" (8.69 m)
    L.W.L.: 22' 4" (7.42 m)
    Beam: 9' 5" (2.87 m)
    Draft: 5' 3" (1.60 m)

    Displacement: 6700 lbs. (3039 kg.)
    Ballast: 2700 lbs. (1225 kg.)
    Sail area: 395 sq. ft. (36.70 m)

    Motor: Yanmar 2GM diesel
    Headroom: standing
    Berths: 5
    Rating
    (PHRF-LO) : 171
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    This is what I sail , I did see two at ports in Newfoundland so they do sail them out there. Great boat , however, a bit difficult to single hand in heavy conditions. I have sailed and also like the alberg (great boat). We have two at our marina. I also have sailed on a bayfield 29 and like how they handle rough conditions but they are very slow in light air. The CC29 flys by in light air. im sure I will stick with the cc 29 for a bit longer.
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    Probably not a bad idea Len, if you bide your time,you may find a reasonable price 28ft Falmouth working boat in wood or plastic, and sail over to the UK and PX your boat. The motion of any small boat at sea can be exhausting in heavy weather,another 4000lb displacement does not make that much difference,but the hull/keel shape can slow things down to a more comfortable (relatively) situation. From experience,i would say a bermudan mainsail is a lot easier to deal with than a large gaff main in heavy seas and when solo . In fact,if i ever went back to another gaffer and went offshore,this would be a time to consider a good trysail,the shifting centre of effort as the sail was reefed meant hanging on to the flying jib to balance it,and that really was a royal pain to douse when the time came;i eventually compromised and when i knew the weather was going to get thick,i would drop both the main and flying jib,and sail on under staysail alone.....slowly but in complete control.

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    Default Falmouth cutter 22

    I know the sailing abilities of both the alberg and cc29 are quite different as I have sailed both as well. Do you think the cc can stand up to heavy weather as well as the alberg. I dont mean to be as comfortable, simply could two people survive in such a boat? Do you believe the cc to be strong enogh for coastal cruising around NFL and Maine. Thanks for all the input. If I remain with this boat I could focus on preparing her and building an Auklet tender.
    Thanks I hope I have not veered of topic too much. I do think The Falmouth 22 to be very expensive.
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    Len,i confess i know nothing about the layup weights of the CC,and only know through reputation that the Alberg was a heavily built boat. In fairness, i did meet a guy cruising in a lightly built Hunter 25 (American built/not UK hunter),and he got no end of comment from fellow Americans about how lightly built his boat was.....i always remember his reply....even an egg will survive a storm at sea,as long as it doesnt hit anything! It has to be said,only a handfull of boats break up at sea due to light construction,lightweight Jenneau/Beneteau french yachts are routinely overloaded with crew and stores,way below their original waterlines,and sail from France to Martinique/Guadaloupe every year. I have seen a few Beneteaus up on the beach in peices after a hurricane, and it was interesting to see the dry layers of layup in the hull!! However,i confess that these boats were a damn sight stronger than the 34 year old 1/2 in plywood boat i was cruising on. If think of every possible worst case scenario,floating containers,reefs,other ships etc etc,you would probably end up going cruising at all! If you can get your current boat to heave to and bows to the worst of the weather,you will probably be fine. Otherwise, see if you can trade your boat to an older one with a long keel. Its your own peace of mind that matters, what will it take for you to feel more secure? Cheers

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    Default Re: Falmouth cutter 22

    Paul Gartside designed a 22ft'er that was built in low numbers in GRP in the UK. They are called Oysterman 22. They are available 15-25k and are very well built.

    Like this one currently available...

    http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/121409/

    Not sure if its like Surprise, but with a transom hung rudder, or if its much different...he'd know:


    http://www.gartsideboats.com/catsail3.php#surprise
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    Big as the Oysterman 22 is,its still 22ft. Agree though,of worthy consideration againt the original quest for a Fal 22,i believe the oysterman may actually be slighter bigger,and cheaper. Cheaper still would be a plastic Itchen Ferry, but......only my opinion,but those ones sure are ugly(original wood Itchens the mutts nuts).

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    oysterman 22 wow what a boat !!!. However, 27 000 GBP = almost 50,000 a lot of money for a boat 22 feet.
    I also agree that I will know if this is the boat after a few years of sailing in a variety of conditions.
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    Boats here in the UK must seem very expensive,just as boats in the US seem very cheap to those of us in Europe. At the moment its a buyers market,theres a lot of boats out there and a lot of choice.No need to go crazy outfitting the boat you already have, just keep using it until the right boat comes along at a price you can afford. Cheers

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    Heavy displacement cruisers tend to hold their value better than light displacement boats. Only 22ft but the beam and depth and full ends makes them bigger than might be expected. You tend to get your money back if you resell them in good condition, so it wouldn't actually cost much net, provided you can stretch to the initial price.

    To get the best buy, look for a boat 'out of position'. I mean, a boat thats worth alot in the UK, lets say a Rival 34, thats laid up in the US - people often don't circumnavigate, either decide to stay somewhere, family ill or don't enjoy it enough etc. The boat is then much cheaper, and if you're prepared to cruise, you can take advantage of this, either by buying a cheap boat, or even then sailing it to where it's worth alot and selling it. That way you can enjoy cruising and make some money.

    For example there's a Sparkman & Stephens 38 Condor in Mexico asking 20k. Same boat in UK at Ancasta brokerage is 60k. Maybe look for a boat that's worth a bit in the US that's in Europe or elsewhere and sail back to the US. Enjoy cruising and make some money if you resell. Yo can also sometimes find a bargain in Mexico and Carribean.

    Hess also designed a boat called a Nor'sea 27 for offshore in GRP, but slightly narrower so it was within the legal US trailing limit. Heavy displacement, some with an aft cabin for storage, sleeping, saefty and a windbreak/ backrest. There a bit cheaper than Falmouth cutters. I've seen them at 15k. Well built, though some home finished. It might float your boat. This one's in Hawai. 20k. Been for sale ages. Hard to sell in a place like that. Make a silly offer.


    http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1977.../United-States
    Last edited by keyhavenpotterer; 03-29-2011 at 04:16 AM.

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    Very valid points by KHP. Some Swedish friends found the boat of their desires in the Caribbean, a Contessa 32,going price back then in the UK would have been around 28k plus: they got it for 10k,fully equipped for long distance sailing. Gibraltar, Trinidad, Barbados,Panama,lots of places where people decide to quit and no local market. Its a good way to get a cheap boat if you are flexible/able to drop everything and go. Alas,i have to wait for KHP to build a Souricou so i can buy it cheap off him when he gets the Scilly Isles and does not want to beat back to The Solent. Cheers

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    Default Re: Falmouth cutter 22

    Or you can contact or call Michael Hess of Hess Marine http://www.hessmarine.com 949-872-6336
    Michael J. Hess/ http:www.hessmarine.com

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    not being a boat builder ranking myself at basic intermediate skill, I do have tools and garage space for a 24 foot boat. Blue moon is an awful apealling boat . Thant said does anyone have any idea what the materials would ball park for and if one can learn to build such a boat. As I said I have only done clinker style boats
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    http://www.lipulse.com/blog/category/sports

    scroll down and check out the blue moon story
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    Len, Im not sure if plans are availiable,it seems Atoll Yachts now own the moulds,but no one seems to be building the steel version. KHP sent me an advert for a steel one that needs finishing,im waiting for photos.

    Are you talking about building the carvel version or multi-chine? Costings are hard to specify as material prices differ wildly between locations. Theres around 2.75 tons of timber, pick a species you would like to build with,find its relative weight per cubic ft/metre and then get a price on bulk purchase,price of timber can fall dramatically when buying in tons! Cheers

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