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    Default For the lovers of pilot cutters

    Received an email regarding the availability of plans from Luke Powell

    http://www.workingsail.co.uk/pilot-cutter-plans/

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    Thanks Sayla. What lovely vessels. (I liked the kevels, and particularly the helmsman's thwart -- very civilised.)

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    Lukes a great person to work with and has a great eye. I have watched many of his pilot cutters being built and launched.....they all floated bang on their lines!

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    Is this a thread about PCs in general ? If not perhaps we need one.

    I love these boats


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    44ft Ezra I believe.

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    So what ever happened to volume 3 of WoodenBoat's published Pilots which was supposed to done years ago and be mostly about British Pilot Cutters?

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    We fell in love with the traditional pilot cutter designs but could not afford the pricetag on most of them. Along came Acacia, not your traditional PC but all cutter and rugged. She was designed with traditional (Maine) Quoddy Pilots in mind. She is well behaved and worthy in a blow.
    Here is a picture of an early quoddy pilot,



    This is a Bud McIintosh rendition,

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    Vinny...I love your boat! I think you posted her dimensions and specs somewhere, but cannot remember where. Any chance for an encore?

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    Who DOSEN"T love pilot cutters?

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    absofrigginlutelygorgeous

    I want one.
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    44ft Ezra I believe.

    I thought that was the Tallulah (I was wrong)

    This is - Very similar position - different boat



    I'm tempted to buy plans for this boat
    http://www.workingsail.co.uk/pilot-c...ooter-counter/
    .......just in case I need them..... ya know.

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    For anyone who likes Pilot Cutters, most of the dozen or so pilot cutters built in the last 10 years are now used to take out paying passengers for the day, weekend or 1-2 week cruises. Many of the sailing holidays incorporate cruises to the Scilly Isles, Hebrides or classic sail race events. Google pilot cutter holidays. You can go out on most of them

    For example 7 days out to Scilly Isles and back on Annabel-J is 700. A weekend trip out is 375. Great holiday, especially for nautical people coming to Britain from abroad to see the coastline and enjoy sailing a real pilot cutter: you get your hand on the tiller. Much better way to see Britain than going to Buckingham Palace. They're all new boats, smart, clean and safe for the ladies too.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prKp7Y15mCg

    http://www.annabel-j.co.uk/review.htm

    http://www.traditional-sailing.com/?...Fcod4QodJTglAg

    http://www.topsail-adventures.co.uk/...s-sailing.html
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    This is a real beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Kurylko View Post
    Vinny...I love your boat! I think you posted her dimensions and specs somewhere, but cannot remember where. Any chance for an encore?
    Thanks Don, well let's see 32' lod, 10'6" beam, 4'6"dft, 6' bowsprit,14 tons gross. Maine cedar on white oak, copper rivetted. Launched 1983,was 10 years in the making. Built by the original owner and Bud himself. She has a lot of locust in her backbone. Interior is pine,cherry and locust. Decks are cedar. We are the 3rd owners for 7 years now. She stays in the water year round. We cruise mostly the mid-coast of Maine.
    She has a gaff mains'l, stays'l and a variety of jibs. Full length iron keel with inside lead ballast. Has a wood/coal stove for heat and cooking.
    And a few pictures:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayla View Post
    I thought that was the Tallulah (I was wrong)

    This is - Very similar position - different boat




    Sayla
    Thats interesting ,is one the original and one the replica ?? They look almost identical.

    Love to build this little beuti ,about all I could handle !


    Could do with a bit more detail in the plans though Sayla

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    Quote Originally Posted by headonz View Post
    Thats interesting ,is one the original and one the replica ?? They look almost identical.

    Love to build this little beuti ,about all I could handle !


    Could do with a bit more detail in the plans though Sayla
    I think that they are both replicas. Luke Powel has recreated the Scillonian cutter, which had a lute or square tuck stern. The mainland pilot skiffs had more modern counters.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    How would you feel if they were Marconi rigged instead? One I know who sails and cruises extensively chose to rig it to cut down on the physical demands of it's crew. either way, a great boat.

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    Dalton 'Chloe May'.


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    older thread, awesome photo! It's in moments like this that top quality construction and years of careful maintenance pay off. Look at the slack shrouds to leward, great action shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    How would you feel if they were Marconi rigged instead? One I know who sails and cruises extensively chose to rig it to cut down on the physical demands of it's crew. either way, a great boat.
    The cutter rigged skiffs were set up to be sailed by one man when the pilots had been shipped onto the steamers.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    A real one, Marian







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    Made me look on Yachtworld again, I love those boats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    A real one, Marian
    is there room for a real French one?



    Former pilot boat.
    Last boat to carry the Royal Mail under sail.
    Converted to fishing boat when motor boats took over pilotage from sail.
    Bought by the founder of ORC and converted to yacht.
    Winner of the inaugural Fastnet Race.
    Then went on to win three of the first five Fastnet Races.
    103 years old now and still going strong.

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    Jolie Brise... Pity there's no emoticon for <chills down my spine>.

    Yeah, she's a honey. So are Marion and Chloe May, too.

    Alex

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    If Jolie Brise was shortened to 15ft and made shallow draft, you wouldn't be far from Ilur...echoes from one Northern french workboat to another.

    Laurent Giles took the lines off her.



    I don't think Jolie Brise ever worked as a true pilot boat. I think she was the last one built (and as such had all the best timber the builder could muster) then unfortunately War mean't she was tied up at the river entrance, then later used as a platform to hold pilots before they took a boat in. Used as an inshore fishing boat, then ended up being bought unloved and unwanted by the French by a Brit, and she sailed on thankfully. Interesting that they describe her worst point of sailing to be to windward in a big sea, when that was her aim. Still very nice, although the old school pilot boats I think were slower but were regarded as better pilot boats. I think the old boys didn't like the rake, cut away aft sections and loss of forward reserve buoyancy in the name of speed. There's a book about her.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jolie-Brise.../dp/071364785X
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    Kindly Light being restored. Similar long straight aft run.



    Supposedly one of the fastest, she got a lot of business...but that's not neccesarilly the best seaboat. Led to more regulation of the pilot business.

    The earlier boats were like Henriette Marie. They have attributes worthy of attention. Vertical rudder (but more wetted area without being cut a way aft). More flare and flam forward for a drier boat (at the expense of wave makeing resistance), more tumblehome to keep the decks dry and put the shrouds inline, and a forward LCB for better low froude speed light air efficiency.

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    I'm not sure it was all the boat. I think it was the way he used it. I remember reading about the pilot. I think it was his style to go out further and stay out, looking for the best choice jobs. I think he borrrowed the money to buy the boat then had to work his socks off to pay it back, which he did quickly. I'll dig out Cunliffe's book, I think it might be in there. I think it was as much to do with his work ethic. I think the boat was built narrower than the one before which reduced it's wavemaking resistance, but which would have made it wetter and roll more.

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    Another real one, Mascotte.



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    Amelie Rose is a recent (2009) build, but she is wooden, and lovely under sail. I think she sails out of Poole, or Bournemouth.

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    I posted this on Peter's UK Porn thread. She's perfect (I'd change the colors) http://www.sandemanyachtcompany.co.u...yacht-for-sale



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    what's this piece of sheathing for?

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    Looks like it is canvas to stop the fenders abrading the hull. See the one by the shrouds.

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    ah, it looked like a piece of copper to me at first
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Lines of one of Lyle Hess's boats...


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