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    Default What style is this?

    This I believe was built to an 18th century style, can anyone identify it for me please?

    It seems that I can not post images here, so perhaps you would not mind going to my blog at:
    http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.co...0/my-boat.html

    and here:
    http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.co...t-present.html

    Thank you.
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    Default Re: What style is this?

    Its a punt.

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    Default Re: What style is this?

    Punt or pram.
    Can carry a lot of weight and is stable on smooth water.
    Good for moving supplies back and forth in calm water.

    Thames river punt or pram.
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    very early ply n tape jobby

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    Default Re: What style is this?

    I was going to say . . . but ply'n'tape is a period style. Not saying what period, but definatly a period.

    In colonial days when big timber was handy, these were usually planked on the bottom the long way with cleats along the seams. Noadays if you make it from dimensional lumber, you might cross plank. If you distress the edges of the bottom planks a bit with a hammer and secure them touching a little firmly, it will swell and stay tight after a few hours.

    Punts are fun, especially sanpanny punts.

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    They have some big chunky ones on the River Severn.

    Loading up ell traps.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Default Re: What style is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    They have some big chunky ones on the River Severn.

    Loading up ell traps.
    Oh I love it! A big big to lug about, but I love it just the same.
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    Default Re: What style is this?

    My thanks to everyone for their images and replies, much appreciated. Other replies I got on another forum stated it was a pirogue. There are various designes apparently.


    This is just a short promotoinal video I made up for our 18th century living history group here in Armidale NSW. These shots were actually taken by my wife whilst filming a proffessional film crew shooting the same thing. It took us all day with a variety of takes, and it will all be broken down into a 30 second video! I have not seen it yet. A long day but a lot of fun.
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    Looks like a good time. Nice hats, by the way...

    As for the terminology, the only thing you can say with any accuracy about historical boat designs is that they are "a boat".

    Check out the current thread on Lewis and Clark's boats, and you'll see that there was little or no agreement even back then as to what particular designs were named. If you research their primary sources you'll see even more confusion / irregularity as to boat type names.
    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...Clark-Pirogues

    Another good example of this is Thoreau's boat. Even though he wrote a book about it, there is no consensus as to the actual design elements. The Concord museum back east had a replica built based on a New England-style dory hull that we got to see a few years ago, but I never really saw any proof that it couldn't have been fairly different. This is all based on one phrase in the book, where he describes it as being built by his brother and him “in form like a fisherman’s dory.”

    But like all historical descriptions, terms like "dory", "canoe", "pirogue", etc were very loosely used at the time...and varied from region to region much like the generic term "skiff" today.



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    Neat boat. Looks like a punt. Here are some oldish plans for a similar boat.
    http://duckboats.net.nmsrv.com/specs.../mertpunt1.jpg
    http://duckboats.net.nmsrv.com/specs.../mertpunt2.jpg
    http://duckboats.net.nmsrv.com/specs.../mertpunt3.jpg

    Kind of similar in form/function to the Ozarks Johnboat, Barca Chata, Charleston Bateau and a bunch of others I can't recall the names of. I've been kicking around building a plywood conversion of something similar for a while, to float my local rivers on. Once I get a couple of other boats off the project list first.

    Ozarks Johnboat: http://thelibrary.springfield.missou...weet/wi73b.htm
    Barca Chata: http://www.staugustinelighthouse.com...ca_chata_1.php
    Charleston Bateau: http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/...bcsc/index.htm

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    Its the kind of boat I've got it in my head to build. LOL. Its a punt, a skiff, a scow, a pirogue, a flat boat, a plank boat, or a jon boat depending on when and who you ask. And thats just the different terms I've run across over a week or so of exploring options for a cheap, basic 18th century river travel sort of vessel.
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    Default Re: What style is this?

    If I could ever come across a good build description or plans for a Thai river market sampoa/sampan/canoe. I'd go that route just for novelty sake. But being in the Ozarks, when I get around to a river/creek boat, it'll likely be some form of the indigenous johnboat. I've built a couple of models already, just for fun. It's pretty cool how form follows function in all of these and they are all fairly similar in shape and use.

    Trevor

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