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    Default Chinese junk plans online

    I just stumbled on this, trying different Google keywords to find junk designs:
    http://www.thomashoppe.net/Drawings_of_Chinese_Junks

    Thought this might be of interest to some forumites, especially the mighty Troll.

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    Fascinating. Thank you

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    Chinese junk plans online
    Plans? Who needs plans? You can get all the Chinese junk you want at Walmart for less than it would cost to build your own.

    But seriously, those are pretty cool. Thank you for sharing them.

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    What a good find. I wonder just how much of the Chinese Junk design and technology has been researched and recorded in China? As working craft they seem to have all but disappeared.
    At the age of 62 I have come to realise that you can't breed out stupidity.

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    A great resource ! Even the smallest are massively built aren't they ?
    Try to work out what the marketing guy wants you to do then do precisely the opposite.

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    Built for a hard life i guess.
    At the age of 62 I have come to realise that you can't breed out stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Mercer View Post
    I just stumbled on this, trying different Google keywords to find junk designs:
    http://www.thomashoppe.net/Drawings_of_Chinese_Junks

    Thought this might be of interest to some forumites, especially the mighty Troll.
    Where is the King of Sampan? Haven't seen him about for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanz View Post
    Where is the King of Sampan? Haven't seen him about for a while.
    Didn't he get banned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Didn't he get banned?
    I hope not. Saw him at the homebuilt boats weekend--great guy.

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    Does anyone know what the point of the turret deck is on some junks (see page 4 of http://www.thomashoppe.net/downloads/Gutou_Nov.pdf for one example)? This is a very strongly crowned deck on some junk types--the example in the pdf has a sort of false deck over the turret deck, since the crown is too great to walk on. Does this serve some structural purpose?

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    It's a new one on me.
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    Um, guys - can I point out that I spent the night last night on a very comfortable Vietnamese junk.... in Halong Bay. Got off it about 6 hours ago. Lovely thing. Cabins were better than most hotel rooms I've had......
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    That's right, rub it in Ian...bastard.

    I'm allowed to say that, it's cultural.
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    A very informative and well illustrated book on th subject is:THE JUNKS & SAMPANS OF THE YANGTZE by G.R.G.Worchester. Worchester was th river inspector of the Chinese Maritime Customs office durin the time of Brittish control.
    Jay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Greer View Post
    A very informative and well illustrated book on th subject is:THE JUNKS & SAMPANS OF THE YANGTZE by G.R.G.Worchester. Worchester was th river inspector of the Chinese Maritime Customs office durin the time of Brittish control.
    Jay
    Yeah, I've been meaning to get that one. Problem is, it's out of print and used prices range from $128-$300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Didn't he get banned?
    Maybe once or twice.


    He's not banned now and might just be busy.

    www.ernieanderica.info


    The link to the Junk plans is excellent but some of those files are big.
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    I did not see any photos or drawings. Very discouraging.
    Only stats and numbers.

    OK..OK I found the drawings. Barely readable.
    I do not see how those drawings shown would create any serious interest.
    Maybe if they had some photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donald branscom View Post
    I did not see any photos or drawings. Very discouraging.
    Only stats and numbers.

    OK..OK I found the drawings. Barely readable.
    I do not see how those drawings shown would create any serious interest.
    Maybe if they had some photos.
    There are some pictures at http://www.thomashoppe.net/Revival_of_the_Chinese_Junk of a newly built dude junk. And, uh, I don't know if you've ever looked for info on junks online, but there are tons of old b&w photos and pictures of models, but basically no lines plans. These are actual lines plans, however small and cruddy, plus comments on performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    Um, guys - can I point out that I spent the night last night on a very comfortable Vietnamese junk.... in Halong Bay. Got off it about 6 hours ago. Lovely thing. Cabins were better than most hotel rooms I've had......
    Don't suppose you got any pictures of construction details

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Mercer View Post
    Don't suppose you got any pictures of construction details

    I was paying more attention to the construction details of some passengers, sorry. I've got a couple of photos of the tourist junks.... I'll process them after the next beer or two cool me down a bit from the trip back from Halong Bay.
    Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    REFERRING TO POST #4....

    Research?
    In CHINA?
    R U kidding?!
    Junks have been plying the rivers and coasts of Asia going back to the Han dynasty, so like for about 18 centuries, pretty much unchanged until the introduction of the steam engine.

    The definitive survey study was done in the early 20th century by a British ex-pat inspector of the Chinese Maritime Customs Service, one G.R.G. Worcester

    http://www.amazon.com/Junks-Sampans-.../dp/0870213350

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Mercer View Post
    Does anyone know what the point of the turret deck is on some junks (see page 4 of http://www.thomashoppe.net/downloads/Gutou_Nov.pdf for one example)? This is a very strongly crowned deck on some junk types--the example in the pdf has a sort of false deck over the turret deck, since the crown is too great to walk on. Does this serve some structural purpose?
    This website has been taken down apparently (today is Dec 19th, 2010)

    Did anyone download and save this PDF file I wonder?

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    L Audemard is the other definitive Western text, published in the 60s I think but my photocopy is missing the title and publishers pages. Lots of stuff on hull shapes in it, and between his book and Worchester the variety is staggering.

    Very interesting subject.

    John Welsford

    Quote Originally Posted by SARdean View Post
    REFERRING TO POST #4....

    Research?
    In CHINA?
    R U kidding?!
    Junks have been plying the rivers and coasts of Asia going back to the Han dynasty, so like for about 18 centuries, pretty much unchanged until the introduction of the steam engine.

    The definitive survey study was done in the early 20th century by a British ex-pat inspector of the Chinese Maritime Customs Service, one G.R.G. Worcester

    http://www.amazon.com/Junks-Sampans-.../dp/0870213350
    An expert is but a beginner with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john welsford View Post
    L Audemard is the other definitive Western text, published in the 60s I think but my photocopy is missing the title and publishers pages. Lots of stuff on hull shapes in it, and between his book and Worchester the variety is staggering.

    Very interesting subject.

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    There was a telemovie of the Jules Verne Fantasy Novel "Mysterious Island".

    Some folks escape from the American Civil War in a balloon and land on an island which is Captain Nemo's secret base. The adventures involved a pirate ship, which was a large junk.

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    It looked real, not a scenery prop.
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    There were shots of it sailing.
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    I have done a bit of web hunting but never found anything more about it.

    I apologise for the quality pictures, which I took by pointing my camera at the TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SARdean View Post
    This website has been taken down apparently (today is Dec 19th, 2010)

    Did anyone download and save this PDF file I wonder?
    I found this posted on the website: Thomas passed away on May 24, 2010 in a sailing accident between Sweden and Denmark.

    No other details.

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