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    his saturday, the Midsummer Races for traditional Gotlandic boats was held at Katthammarsvik , Gotland, Sweden for the 30th year in a row
    The weather was excellent, lots of sun and winds about 8-10m/s, unfortunately I didn't have a chance to get my boat ready in time to bring it over to the island.
    The classes where:
    1)Enmänningar, small boat 14-16' One mast and one rower
    2)Tvåmänningar, about 20' One or two masts and two rowers
    3) Tremänningar, about 27' Two or three masts and three rowers
    As far as I could tell they where handicaped by the way they had to sail the course so first over the line was overall winner
    You can hoist as much canvas as you dare to
    It's quite interesting that although the tremänning is longer and carries more sail and sails a shorter course, the best one only made 12th place





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    This is the overall winning boat, Ester, newly restored after 40 years on land

    If I can read my notes correctly, this is Nirvana, usually the winner, today second place




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    Rescue Adolf Bratt
    She's donated to the Östergarn local heritage center by the Swedish Sea Rescue Society.
    She fits right in with the rest of the boats here


    Tvåmänning with both fisherman's (spritsail) and pilot's topsail

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    Rounding mark is just outside the pier


    Tight spot indeed


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    Blekingeeka, obviously not a gotlandic boat so she's just along for the ride


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    A fine examplel of a Tremänning, about 27' and 20m2 sailarea




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    I have no idea what these guys in the boat with the red sail where doing, for the entire duration I was there they tacked back and forth on the far side of the course having completed 1/2 out of the 2 laps, the rescue boat went out to them to check on things and came back with the replay "Everythings is according to plan", that plan is so cunning I could probably brush my teeth with it...

    Running "butterflied" as the lokal expression goes...



    This little enmänning was very fast, perfect combination of hull, rigg and captain at it's best
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    This one looks fast even tied up


    She's making good SOG even with sails furled and hi-tech brake applied

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    Furling the sails, notice the jib pole




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    After race party...


    I have no idea what this is, only it has to come from Star Trek because it's so warped
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    If you have a proper boat, you have to have a proper vehicle especially designed to haul it around



    A fine example of the traditional hull shape
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    Modern and old in a fine mix


    And some clever solutions



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    Wow Ryden - very nice!

    Perhaps I'll find the time one day to put the Museumharbour Arendal Sjekte ARVED on a trailer to show up at this sort of event.

    I always wanted to visit Gotland anyway, if only for its German heritage.

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    Yes, Gotland is well worth a visit and by all means, bring your sjekte!
    This race is always on Midsummer's day but there are many smaller races throughout the summer. Information about these are hard to get though.
    An old girlfriend's grandfather had a friend from northen Germany and they understood each other perectly even though he spoke only gutamal (old gotlandic) and his friend spoke only platdütsch.
    We understood neither.
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    Thanks for posting the pictures, Ryden. Lovely to see...
    Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.

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    So these are fishing skifs, not postal boats?

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    Great photos, love those sprit (fisherman) topsails!
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    Probably the greatest thread in the history of the WoodenBoat Forum. Sprit-rigged, top-sailed, double-enders ... racing on a whitecap day.

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    Wonderful series of photos. Looks like a really fine time for all. It appears that those boats carry neither leeboard nor centerboard, is that right? I've been wondering whether the Kalmar Nyckel shallop ought to be fitted with a leeboard or two, but maybe all we really need is to crowd on more sail.

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    Wow! What awesome pictures! Thanks for posting them. Some really beautiful boats. Looks like a perfect day. I'm going to go back and look at them some more.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mizzenman View Post
    So these are fishing skifs, not postal boats?
    Yes, but they carried post as well. If I remember correctly, post duty was shared between a number of farms. A Tremänning was a big boat to build and maintain and was usually co-owned by three farms. If a farm could own and man one of it's own it was a wealthy farm indeed.
    No one lived of fishing alone, every farm had fishing rights either in the sea or in one of the many lakes or streams (now mostly gone by ditching) At sea it was done by drift netting during the night, sometimes as far away as the coast of Latvia or Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    Great photos, love those sprit (fisherman) topsails!
    Yes they look gorgeous but is sheeted separatly so you need a bigger crew, the Pilot topsail has the advantage of being sheeted to the bottom sail when set and acts as an enlagement rather than an extra sail

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeadon View Post
    Probably the greatest thread in the history of the WoodenBoat Forum. Sprit-rigged, top-sailed, double-enders ... racing on a whitecap day.
    That's some praise! But I agree with you. Only three more days of work and then I'm off to the boat!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Woxbox View Post
    It appears that those boats carry neither leeboard nor centerboard, is that right? I've been wondering whether the Kalmar Nyckel shallop ought to be fitted with a leeboard or two, but maybe all we really need is to crowd on more sail.
    No leeboards or centerbords, just a keelplank. I'm thinking of making one of these as an experiment.


    I was a bit confused as a Shallop to me looks like this, i did some research and got wiser.


    If it's one of these, I think you should add leeboards, It's quite a different beast from the baltic double-enders


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    Quote Originally Posted by Woxbox View Post
    Wonderful series of photos. Looks like a really fine time for all. It appears that those boats carry neither leeboard nor centerboard, is that right? I've been wondering whether the Kalmar Nyckel shallop ought to be fitted with a leeboard or two, but maybe all we really need is to crowd on more sail.
    Well the "crowd" also has to be fast to react to the situation, if not...


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    This is us. Not so sleek but with a full crew, we do have a lot of boat in the water, about 18" draft wit a full, straight keel. I suppose we want a topsail, jib and a pair of leeboards. (We entered the sail race at the St. Michael's small craft fest last year and in 2007, and distinguished ourselves by coming in dead last both times.)


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    Yes, a jib at least. She seams to have the traditional amount of sail wich is useless for racing but perfect for the work she is supposed to do.
    The boats in the race are way overcanvassed from original sailplan, compare pic 5 in post 1 and pic 1 in post 5.
    Seems as big as mine, 20'?
    Once you get the speed up drift will go down, but I think that leeboards would be a really useful addition
    It's really good to see the flag so proudly displayed but I just don't like the modern colours on an old boat. They are selling flags at the chandlers over here in the colour scheme of pre-1906 which is much nicer.
    If you have a good flag maker locally, it's German yellow and Norwegian blue
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    Tack for the fantastic photos Ryden. So many sprits are wonderful to see. I notice that although you all are over canvased, the cut of the sail shape has remained very square in profile. That is unlike many sprits here that tend to peak up from the mast. Your photos make me want to go back soon. Glad Midsommar!

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    I agree. We were using an official Swedish Naval ensign, with the old colors and three tails on it. But it was getting too old and ragged so we retired it. Making a fresh copy of that one would be a good job to add to the wish list.

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    Always wondered about the flag colors. I could hand sew you one, Woxbox, out of wool bunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC 72 View Post
    I notice that although you all are over canvased, the cut of the sail shape has remained very square in profile. That is unlike many sprits here that tend to peak up from the mast. Your photos make me want to go back soon. Glad Midsommar!
    Yes swedish trad sprits are very square, I really don't know the reason for that. Maybe they were easier to sew that way when you did it yourself There are even types that slope down from the mast.
    Glad Midsommar to you to as well! I saw your surname was Carlson, so do you have Swedish roots?

    I was wondering about sprit topsails, are they used anywhere else? That's always been the standard topsail to me so I haven't really reflected upon it, but I can't remember seeing them used anywhere else than the Baltic.
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    Dads parents were from Sweden in about 1917. Met here. Farfar Einar worked in the ship yards in Washington, before coming to California. The daughter was suppose to go this summer to stay with family, but illness kept her home.

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    Thats a bit of coincident, my Morfar was called Einar as well. That's not a common name.
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