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    Default Faering plan and information

    I hope you could be of help. I would like to build a small norse sailing and rowing clinker ship (ca. 5,5-6 m long) in solid wood and in a traditional way. I research some information about the Nordfjord or sogn faering and the geibåt. Does anybody have some information about the different timber dimensions and have some plans and cross sections or know where I could find these informations? I try to buy the book Vestlandbatar but unsuccessfully .

    Many thanks in advance.

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    Welcome to the Forum! If you go to the USER CP link in the upper left of this page, you can edit your location info -- then we'll know where in the world you'll be building, and can direct you to local resources.

    You can also search the Forum for "faering" and similar terms, as this topic comes up regularly.

    I find the internal Wooden Boat Forum search engine to be pretty limited, as it doesn't allow Boolean searches (tow +dinghy +bridle).

    Try Google's Advanced Search ( http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en ) . Just copy and paste the Forum's URL ( http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/ ) into the last field named "Search within a site or domain:", then put in search strings like "tow dinghy bridle" or whatever.
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    Have you been following this thread, Gwen?

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?t=106857


    Or this one?

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?t=88201


    Iain Oughtred has a design for a traditionally built faering, the Woodfish, as well as his glued lap plywood designs Elf and Elfyn.

    Here is a link to an article about the Woodfish: http://www.viking-boats.com/Pdf/Oughtreds.pdf

    I built his Elf with my son a few years ago:


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    Oselvar turns up a lot of good information.

    http://www.oselvarverkstaden.no/

    I assume you found this:

    http://home.online.no/~joeolavl/viki...se_faering.htm
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    Hi there.

    If you are interested in knowing more about the Nordfjord-boat, I can probably help you. i am just about to start the first shaping of the garboard planks to let them dry a bit. My plan is to build a fearing during august an september.

    -Bjørn, Norway

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    Be sure and post some pics of your project when you start building.

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    Hi,

    Sorry for the delay in responding your emails. Thanks for your answers!!! After many researches in Norway, we have found the drawings of a Nordfjord faering (made by Arne Emil Christensen) in the Norwegian maritime museum. They are copying it and will send it to us this week (I hope). Bjørn, we will be happy to have some discussion about the Nordfjord boat and the information you have. What dimension will have your faering (length, width and depth) ? Is it only a rowing or also a sailing boat ? Where do you find your data to build your faering? We plan to beginn the building in the fall and winter (depending of the wood supplying).

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    have hou information about plan for a seksaering 21 to 23 feet long who can be fit with an inboard engine ( and of course who can handle a sails)?
    Kind . patrice. e mail: patricehubert50@hotmail.fr

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    Hello,
    Did you build the Nordfjord boat. I am interested in building one. I have a set of plans but would very much like to ask you a few questions about your build if I could.
    Thanks,
    Patrick

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    Inshore craft of Norway by Faeroyvik has many line drawings of faerings and larger boats. This sunnhordaland faering was built scaling up one of his drawings
    CA06F558-45EB-4D0D-814B-B15E256CBB1C.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleipnir View Post
    Hello,
    Did you build the Nordfjord boat. I am interested in building one. I have a set of plans but would very much like to ask you a few questions about your build if I could.
    Thanks,
    Patrick
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    Very nice. I will check the book. Did you build this?

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    Yes, built in winter of 2016, larch on locust frame

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    I have the book, Inshore Craft of Norway, is that faering scaled down from the eight oared Handangerbåten in the book?

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    The faering is #2 on the map. Pg27 of the book

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    I found it, thanks. So the original boat was three planks per side, is yours four or five? Did you convert the plans for more planks so as to be able to use narrower stock? Did you build with moulds?
    cheers

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    I converted to five because of the stock I had. I used the lines plan to make a mold for each of Faeroyvik’s stations. I used this book for many of the construction details and sail plan considerations.
    https://www.amazon.com/Shetland-Boat.../dp/0905555716

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    Thanks for the tip, I will look into that book. For that faering, did you need to carve out the garboards? How does it sail, by the way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleipnir View Post
    Thanks for the tip, I will look into that book. For that faering, did you need to carve out the garboards? How does it sail, by the way?
    I did not carve the garboards. I did not have the stock or the experience to take that on ( maybe the next boat).
    the squaresail was a kind of lark; I wanted to try it out. It points maybe 40 d but with leeway makes about 20. Lots of lines : tack and sheet alternating, belly downhaul, bowlines. I do not think braces are needed on this little sail. Alternative rigs would make more practical sense.
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    Very nice

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    If you are interested in building traditionally and can't get to Norway or Denmark for a course, see if you can find the 4 volume series Norlandsbåten og Åfjordabåtenby Eldjarn and Godal. The photos and illustrations make things pretty clear even if you can't read the language.
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    Nice, I bet it tracks well. That sounds pretty good for a square sail, I think the Viking ship replicas at Roskilde point about 50. Regarding the garboards, I was thinking maybe just to cut out the top and side view and rough out the stock between the lines. I think getting the right concavity on the exterior of the plank would be the tricky part. What finish do you have on there?

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    Thanks, I do have the fourth volume but I haven’t yet had a chance to absorb it. It would be good to have all 4. I find that every clue kind of fills out the picture.

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    The finish is one part pine tar, 10 parts raw linseed, applied warm. Maybe six coats. Renewal the last two years has used about one quart.
    for the real stuff, these people are great (I am not financially involved)
    https://www.solventfreepaint.com/index.htm

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    I knew that finish looked familiar! I’ve been using it for a while on exterior timber projects but not so diluted, just one to one ratio of pine tar to linseed. I get it from a store in Kingston,Ontario. It’s really nice. I wasn’t sure how it would hold up to marine use but it looks good. They also have Tonkinois varnish which I really like but maybe too glossy and polished looking for a faering.

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    The advantage of the tar/oil is how easy it is to renew. Once the wood is fully saturated, One just washes the wood ( with linseed oil soap, naturally!) and recoats areas that look dry. I keep it on a trailer undercover as well.

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    That ease of maintenance is very appealing and it also tends to age well and looks good on a faering.

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