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    Greg I don't have any pictures of dads boat that really show the cabin top curve or the slope of the sides perfectly but you might be able to glean a little from these.








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    Larks,
    I am sorry that I can't get to "Bright Star" to help you out right now. I am pretty sure that her beams are set plumb. Just a slight bevel on top would be all you need. If you wish the bottom can be also beveled. Capping them with a varnished batten gives a nice look. The bevel can be sawn into the beam as you get them out using your band saw and the table tilted. This would be easier than laminating them as each one is different due to the progressive narrowing of the sides of the deck house. Again, stretching a wire from the after crown to the fwd end of the house will allow you to measure the height of each beam due to the slant of the coach roof.
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    I’d like to have been further along with this by now after this last decent stint at home, but too many other distractions with projects on the house and the block and a few other small contracts and jobs here and there have meant that I haven’t quite had the clear run at the boat that I was hoping so never really got up the head of steam that I should have to plow into it properly.

    So, sadly, yesterday was clean up and cover up day in the shed to give me a clear day today to finalise a few projects at home and clean and pack the Amarok up ready to drive down to Canberra tomorrow for a new 12 month contract.

    Here’s where I’ve left her - the saloon seating is in place, the trim needs some router burn marks cleaned up before oiling, the seat fronts need to be fabricated and fitted and I will hinge the seat top hatches with SS piano hinges:

    [IMG]IMG_0173 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]


    The aft end of the port settee isn’t yet trimmed as that will be covered by the galley face.



    [IMG]IMG_0170 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]



    I had bright finished the sides in the cabin to show off some of the Huon pine, but I’m still thinking about how much of it to leave exposed and whether I may paint over some or all of it - I’ll wait until it’s more fitted and see how it looks.



    [IMG]IMG_0158 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]


    [IMG]IMG_0164 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]


    [IMG]IMG_0176 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]



    Router burn needing some clean up

    [IMG]IMG_0167 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]
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    I bit of a stuff up that I’ve managed to come up with a work around for, the face of the settee trim was lined up to sit flush with the bulkhead trim but, without thinking it through properly, I made it thicker to give it some more strength and substance than the trim on the bulkhead.

    The result was that on both sides it blocked a little semi-secret hatch that I’d built to make use of space under the book case in each bulkhead.

    Rather than have the face of the trim sit proud of the bulkhead trim, or thin down all of the settee trim to match the bulkhead, I’ve used that end piece of trim as the “lock” for the bulkhead hatch by hinging it out:

    The overlap that blocks the hatch:

    [IMG]IMG_0168 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]


    [IMG]IMG_0169 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]


    Not sure yet how I’ll lock the hinged flap in place when it’s up, probably just a small sliding bolt or a rare earth magnet......or maybe a pin coming up from below......




    But sadly that’s as far as I’ve managed to get for now, so covers on and shed cleaned and pretty much closed up for the next 12 months:

    [IMG]IMG_0178 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]


    [IMG]IMG_0179 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]


    [IMG]IMG_0180 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]




    The plan now is to pack a few things up in the ute, including some carving tools and maybe my tiller and a few other bits and pieces of wood to play with a few projects while I’m away, hit the road tomorrow morning, have a break on the way in Port Stephens before getting to Canberra late Friday, find somewhere to live for 12 months and start work again next Monday to top up the coffers so that I can, hopefully, get a clearer run at finishing her off in a year.

    So I’ll miss my ideal of having her in the water this year to celebrate her 50th birthday, but I’d still like to take her to Hobart in 2019.
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    Lovely to see that work Greg, love the detail and fine woodwork. Safe trip and good luck with the job over the next 12 months. I might be down that way for a spot of fly fishing early next year. If so, I'll give you a buzz and try to grab a beer.
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    Safe travel good luck with the new job.

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    Man.. one thing about going away for a few months is coming back and catching up on some of my favorite threads.
    That just looks fantastic,Greg.
    Just great. I wish I had your patience and skills.

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    As I've said before, Greg could do this job with a sharpened spoon! He's good !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asap View Post
    I can understand your lack of ease with how the sides look but doubt painting it would be wise, especially after the work likely done in removing same. I’d suggest that a raw Huon look might work, maybe with a flat or matt finish or, that failing, just oil.

    Thanks Asap, I reckon you are right and it’s also what Kate had suggested, i.e. take the gloss back a bit to a more satin or matt finish - it has quite a few coats of gloss on there at the moment to seal it well and it won’t take much to tone it down a bit. It is a lovely colour and it shows the structure of the hull so it’d be nice to leave it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnno View Post
    Lovely to see that work Greg, love the detail and fine woodwork. Safe trip and good luck with the job over the next 12 months. I might be down that way for a spot of fly fishing early next year. If so, I'll give you a buzz and try to grab a beer.
    Thanks John, (I hope your grandfather likes what I’ve done to his wardrobe).

    The first thing that I've pulled out to pack is my fly rod and fly tying gear and pretty much be my first activity once I’ve got some long term accomodation sorted will be scoping out where to go with it and I am quite looking forward to that.

    I don’t know Canberra or the area around it at all, (my impression is that it’s chockablock full of bureaucrats but is surrounded by pretty country, cold in winter and ugly dry in Summer - when I asked one of my mates how he was doing down there a couple of years his response was “not bad, but I think Summer fell on a Wednesday this year and I was away that day....”) so if you know the area for fly fishing and have any suggestions I’d be very appreciative. The only guys who I vaguely know to go to for advice are the guys down at Alpine Angler near Cooma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auscruisertom View Post
    Safe travel good luck with the new job.
    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    Man.. one thing about going away for a few months is coming back and catching up on some of my favorite threads.
    That just looks fantastic,Greg.
    Just great. I wish I had your patience and skills.
    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    As I've said before, Greg could do this job with a sharpened spoon! He's good !
    Thanks Tom, JB and Peter and welcome back to terra firms JB, it was great following your thread on the cruise and your FB pics.

    I’m taking the sharpened spoons to Canberra Peter and will see what I can make of them down there. I doubt that I’ll find anywhere with the same garage set up that I had in Mandurah, everything to rent in Canberra looks like it’ll be a one bedroom closet, but I’ll see what I can do on a kitchen bench.
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    Ahh, Canberra, so I was wrong by a few km. Good luck with it. Should be plenty of time for project work there. You could take up snow skiing in winter. Hope it goes well, and you find decent digs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    Thanks John, (I hope your grandfather likes what I’ve done to his wardrobe).
    I think he'd be really chuffed, it's fantastic!

    To be honest, the staff at Alpine Angler are definitely the ones to go to for both the best streams at the time and the go-to flies. Their website has regular fishing reports, the trout season is open by now, and they'll give good advice over the phone as well. I don't know of a Canberra fly shop, but there'll be one for sure. Also will be a club. Might be a good place to find someone to share a trip and a beer with..always more fun fishing for trout with two people I reckon.
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    Sheez, Larks. Looking really beautiful. Damn.
    My deckbeams I cheated and traced them from old but I did laminate and guaranteed losing zero.zero degrees anything back anywhere, by laminating them on the opposite plane. Cut several of the true shape looking at them horizontally and stacked them vertically.
    Worked ok.
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    Sheet, we just get used to perving on your Pron and you up an leave us. Good luck in the new contract and plan lots of good stuff for us.

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    12 months? And what are we suppposed to do in the meantime? Feels a little selfish frankly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Ahh, Canberra, so I was wrong by a few km. Good luck with it. Should be plenty of time for project work there. You could take up snow skiing in winter. Hope it goes well, and you find decent digs.
    Thanks Phil, cheers.


    Quote Originally Posted by johnno View Post
    I think he'd be really chuffed, it's fantastic!

    To be honest, the staff at Alpine Angler are definitely the ones to go to for both the best streams at the time and the go-to flies. Their website has regular fishing reports, the trout season is open by now, and they'll give good advice over the phone as well. I don't know of a Canberra fly shop, but there'll be one for sure. Also will be a club. Might be a good place to find someone to share a trip and a beer with..always more fun fishing for trout with two people I reckon.
    Thanks John, do sing out when your down there, it’d be great to catch up and go for a fish

    Quote Originally Posted by floatingkiwi View Post
    Sheez, Larks. Looking really beautiful. Damn.
    My deckbeams I cheated and traced them from old but I did laminate and guaranteed losing zero.zero degrees anything back anywhere, by laminating them on the opposite plane. Cut several of the true shape looking at them horizontally and stacked them vertically.
    Worked ok.
    Hey Kerry, nice to see you here again. I did keep some of the old laminated deck beams but they’ve sprung back somewhat while in storage so I can’t rely in their shape for the new ones


    Quote Originally Posted by andrewpatrol View Post
    Sheet, we just get used to perving on your Pron and you up an leave us. Good luck in the new contract and plan lots of good stuff for us.
    Thanks Andrew, much appreciated mate.



    Quote Originally Posted by willin woodworks View Post
    12 months? And what are we suppposed to do in the meantime? Feels a little selfish frankly....
    Yeah I know - very selfish indeed, and all about chasing money
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    Greg, the vertcal surfaces of Bright Star's deck house are all plumb. That is how LFH designed it to be.
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    Thanks Jay, that’s how I see them on the drawing but had wondered how the builder may have translated that in practice - i.e. whether he may have used a bit of "builders license”.

    Am just sitting down to a nice nightcap of Redbreast over-looking a marina at a very pleasant little resort hotel in Corlette, Port Stephens, after a particularly long days drive - very pleasant.
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    I envy you Greg! Incidentally, my father inlaw made the model.

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    I remember you posting about it Jay, he did a lovely job - must be a lot of hours invested in it.
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    That really is a lovely model!
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    Thanks guys I am lucky to have a bride who grew up on sail boats too!
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    Although I can’t do much now that I’m working away from the boat, I can start getting some of the more costly key items on the shopping list organised, aside from the engine. Those being some huon pine for the cabin sides and cockpit and the bronze portholes.

    First on the list is the huon pine so that I can get it delivered from Tasmania up to Queensland and stacked to acclimatise for how ever long it takes for me to get back to it.

    I’ve been talking to a company called Tasmanian Specialty Timbers (TST) to source the huon pine ( http://www.tasmanianspecialtimbers.com.au ) and they have offered me sawn logs, as opposed to individual planks. Because huon pine is quite dimensionally stable I plan to do the cabin sides in one length so am chasing planks of at least 3900mm x 300mm x @25mm and TST have offered three logs that would suite but of slightly varying quality, quantity (i.e. log size) and price. Each one ends up being quite a lot more than I need but they provide me the option of using them for furniture or selling some off to possibly go towards paying for what I use.

    This is the largest, appears to be the best quality and so works out at $8800.00 m3, providing 16 planks ranging from 4.3m to 4.7m , 25mm to 35mm thick and 260mm to 360mm wide.

    It’s probably the one that I’ll go for but before I commit I need to get a better idea of the real widths to know what I can realistically cut from them. I haven’t yet heard back whether the widths shown for each slab is measured at the widest point, the narrowest point or a straight edge length of what can be cut from it.

    i.e. they are listed as "Huon pine log No83, slab No 1 - 280mm x 25mm x 4.3m 0.030m3;....slab No 12 - 340mm x 25mm x 4.4m 0.37m3 and so on

    [IMG]Pic log 83 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]

    [IMG]Log 83 pattern2 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]

    Then there’s this one that works out at $7699 m3 providing 9 planks but ranging 3.7m to 5m long, 25 to 40mm thick and 310 to 440mm wide

    [IMG]Log47 (4) by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]

    [IMG]L 47 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]

    [IMG]Log 47 (3) by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]


    You can see from the shape of the slab why I need to know how the width is measured, there’s not much point thinking it’s maybe 4.1m x 25mm x 440mm of it’s only 250mm beside that bit notch in the middle of the slab.
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    And the last one that works out at $6816 m3, with 10 slabs all around 4.2m x 25mm and from 210mm wide to 350mm wide. You can see in the photos though that sap wood is discolouring, or as the TST guys described it “on the turn”.......whatever that actually means I’m not sure.

    [IMG]Log 78a (2) by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]

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    [IMG]Log 78a by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]
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    Quite a decision Greg, it would be good to be able to roll out some plastic sheet patterns to see if they fit . Fancy a short plane flight?

    Beautiful stuff though!
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    PM Greg.

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    Greg, get that guy with the knee torches to move closer so you can get a better look at the discoloration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    [IMG]DSC_0038 by Greg Larkin, on Flickr[/IMG]
    Greg, I just clicked on the link you provided to the Tassie timber people, and wow, the Huon pine story is fascinating, and it's gratifying to see how they treasure it. If they have any doubts about how you will employ it, show them this photo. Your work is beyond praise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Quite a decision Greg, it would be good to be able to roll out some plastic sheet patterns to see if they fit . Fancy a short plane flight?

    Beautiful stuff though!
    I’d love to go and inspect them Peter but I can’t see that happening any time soon - this job is going to keep me very busy flying around the complete opposite sides of the country. I have a very good mate down there though, (who you likely met at my 50th - Jez/Jeremy) and I plan to ask him to take a look next week if he has time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewpatrol View Post
    PM Greg.
    right back at you Andrew
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquinian View Post
    Greg, I just clicked on the link you provided to the Tassie timber people, and wow, the Huon pine story is fascinating, and it's gratifying to see how they treasure it. If they have any doubts about how you will employ it, show them this photo. Your work is beyond praise.
    Thanks John, and yes, they seem to be a good bunch of guys to deal with. I wonder how many people, outside of the wooden boating world, are actually aware of the value and qualities of huon pine when they see a piece of furniture built from it.
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    Another place to try is Rogue Traders in Huonville. They sell individual slabs, if you don't want to get a whole log. Whole log looks kinda nice though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Another place to try is Rogue Traders in Huonville. They sell individual slabs, if you don't want to get a whole log. Whole log looks kinda nice though.
    Thanks Phil, do you have any contacts for them? I can’t find them with a Google search and I’d be interested to see what their prices are like, I suspect the slabbed log is going to be the best value. And you are right, a whole log is very appealing for the timber stash and future jobs.
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    Default Re: H28 "Larrikin" rebuild

    Sorry Greg it's Rogue Empire, not Trader. Google will get you there now.

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