Stanley Buys Black and Decker

[switters]

What will the implications be?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/business...,5896139.story

[john l]

i'm not certain that they will move the company out of baltimore.
i'm more concerned about stanley changing the name of black and decker or dewalt to stanley. i doubt they would do that but you never know.

[John of Phoenix]

I hope they improve the quality of B&D tools.

[oznabrag]

i'm not certain that they will move the company out of baltimore.
i'm more concerned about stanley changing the name of Bleak and Darker or dewalt to stanley. i doubt they would do that but you never know.

There. Fixed that forya!

[Keith Wilson]

You guys realize this includes Delta/Rockwell/Porter-Cable too, right?

[Ron Williamson]

As long as it isn't Irwin/Rubbermaid,which bought and killed Record/Marples and Vise Grip.
R

[switters]

You guys realize this includes Delta/Rockwell/Porter-Cable too, right?

Didn't know that, how so? I tried to search and found what seemed to me a link that Stanley also owns Mac tools but nothing about porter cable, so I'm interested.

[Keith Wilson]

Black & Decker bought 'em from Pentair in '04. From their corporate site:

2004 - Black & Decker ® announce the purchase of the Tools Group from Pentair, Inc. (NYSE: PNR) for approximately $775 million in cash. The Tools Group, which includes the Porter-Cable, Delta, DeVilbiss Air Power, Oldham Saw, and FLEX businesses, had sales of $1.08 billion and operating profit of $82 million in 2003.

[S/V Laura Ellen]

From the horses mouth.

[Michael D. Storey]

So, I reckon that this will not effect any U.S. tool makers, seein as these two global growth giants don't employ any.

[switters]

I bow to the google masters, thanks.

[Bob Adams]

So, I reckon that this will not effect any U.S. tool makers, seein as these two global growth giants don't employ any.

Yeah, damn shame. I drive past the old B&D Hampstead plant often. A smidgen is still made in the US, some in Mexico, and the rest is Chinese crap. I contacted the company 25 or so years ago when I was working on a boat built for Alonzo Decker. They were decent then.

[Canoeyawl]

I rebuilt a Model A Ford a while back, and when I was reboring the door hinges for oversized pins, damned if there wasn’t a little Stanley sweetheart stamped on the back of each of them! 1930 …

I’m pretty sure the last pair of vise-grips I bought said Stanley on them.

[seafox]

B and D earned a bad rep trying to cut costs to attract the home owner market and when they couldn't get over the bad rep they bought Dewalt and namaged not to destroy that label stanley I belive has a fairly good rep so hopefully they won't hurt any reps of the new companys they now own

[goodbasil]

... & DeWalt were the ones who bought Elu.

[Nicholas Scheuer]

Harbor Freight being your best router is pretty amazing, Captain B!

I stop in our local HF occasionally, and sometimes pick up non-critical stuff, like a roll-around tool tray, or stuff that others have reported good service with and I don't want to wrap up a lit of money, like a 1" all-metal rotary electric pump. Nonetheless, I like quality tools for day-in day-out, year-after year work and am exceedingly pleased with my Porter Cable "sawsall" and my Milwaukee 1/2" reversable drill (not cordless, no hand check).

Got a small Makitas cordless drill, a Rayobi router, a Bosch masonry drill, a Makita side cutter/grinder, and an old Craftsman 8" table saw with an extension table under which I mount my router, and an old Delta floor mount drill press.

My table saw has given me better service for forty years that it should have been expected to. Nonetheless, one of these days I'd like to pick up a quality 10 " table saw,used. I'd settle for another Craftsman if it had an iron table.

Moby Nick

[Nicholas Scheuer]

brad9798: I see I've miss-credited one of your posts above to Captain-B!

You've probably given Harbor Freight more creds here than a weekend's worth of Sunday supplement ads.

[Bob Adams]

I would submit that the people who actually use tools for a living, day in and day out, have a pretty good idea of what will hold up and give them a better return on their tool-buying dollar. When I was banging nails and driving screws for a living, I saw an awful lot of DeWalt and Makita, and not a lot of Black & Decker, being used. I also saw a brand-new, just out-of-the-box B&D drill give it up in a cloud of smoke after driving not even one battery charge's worth of sheet-metal screws. Yeah, that was 50 bucks down the tubes.

On the other hand, we had a B&D factory service center near the shop. We'd buy a couple reconditioned tools, as I recall drill motors, hand power planers, sanders and the like, use the hell out of them, then take their burnt up carcasses back to exchange. They never questioned us.

[peter radclyffe]

i use my b & d , 30 year old sander
& my b & d 40 year old gutbuster heavy drill
both 110 volt
ex navy

[Bob Adams]

i use my b & d , 30 year old sander
& my b & d 40 year old gutbuster heavy drill
both 110 volt
ex navy

Twas different animals then.

[Tealsmith]

I'm going to bankrupt Harbor Freight soon. I just got another coupon for yet another free flashlight. This will make my third.

[Dan McCosh]

This may explain why on my latest tool-shopping expedition Porter Cable seemed like a new brand--odd stuff they never built before, a noticeable loss of quality, etc. Lowes seems to have dropped Ryobi as well. Dunno who makes what anymore.

[chasbartlett]

I think the closed the B & D plant near Easton Md.....or on the way to St. Michaels.