Tammie Norrie, Iain Oughtred 13'6" Daysailer

[GaffRig]

Does anyone have any info on this design, such as how difficult for a first time builder...etc. Maybe links to a builder's website, etc...

It is quite appealing and has a Gunter rig option.

I am in the U.S., are there any known US distributers of Iain's plans?

Thanks
Gaffrig

[Venchka]

Write to Iain for the plans. Somebody on the Forum built one. Hopefully they will be along soon.

Wayne
In the Swamp.

[Jeremy Burnett]

I have one of these I built strip plank. I would not use this method for this particular design again.The wineglass stern was tricky.Having said that its a good boat excellent for family estuary sailing,mine is lug rigged, I havent got round to fixing the mizen yet!

[almeyer]

Whatever design you choose, get a copy of Iain Oughtred's book on glued ply construction. It's a great reference.
I haven't seen the plans on Tammie Norrie, but I can vouch for Arch Davis' Penobscot 14. It's about the same size as Tammie Norrie, the plans, instructions and construction method are great for a first timer, and one of the rig options shown is a gunter sloop.
Al

[GaffRig]

Al,
Thanks for the advice on the book. I had looked at Arch Davis's P14 and got a copy of the study plans. My big hold up is I am bothered by the ribbands/stringers that are left on the boat as well as the inside transom decor. I had decided to go with the P17 since the seating layout completely hides the ribbands and the inside of the transom is clean, but recently am rethinking as I don't know if I can fit the 17' boat (while it is sitting on the trailer) in my garage. Something I hadn't though of earlier, I had only considered building space, not storage space(length-wise). I probably would have to take the boat off the trailer everytime I put it away, unless they make trailers where the boat can sit very far forward with only a short "tongue" sticking ahead of the bow....?

So now I am looking at slightly smaller designs again...Pooduck, Tammie Norrie, etc....

Thanks
GaffRig

[Venchka]

How big is your garage? My 19'-6" Caledonia yawl and trailer sit diagonally in half my garage with room to walk behind the boat and room to open the car doors fully in the other half. The garage is 24' wide by 22' deep. The boat takes up about 11' of the 24' width. The boat/trailer combination is about 25' overall. The other trick is to add a hinge and pin in the tongue just forward of the winch stand. Pull the pin and fold the tongue out of the way. A third option is a telescoping tongue. You could have 3 positions: storing, towing and launching. Lastly, you could move the winch stand and boat all the way forward for storing and move the winch/boat back 3'-4' for towing.

This is the boat/trailer and it fits in my garage with no tricks on the tongue:



Should you go with the P17, order the issue of WoodenBoat with Mike O'briens review of the design. He is of the opinion that the stringers are redundant with the exception of the one supporting the seats and bulkheads. That seems to be a reasonable compromise. With Arch Davis's approval, naturally.

Wayne
In the Swamp.

[ 05-17-2005, 12:08 PM: Message edited by: Venchka ]

[Don Maurer]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1972228...89326935/show/
Here is my Tammie Norrie launched last year. Other than a couple of cedar strip kayaks, this was my first boatbuilding project. It wasn't that difficult, but it does take time. I spent about 4 years off and on working on it. If I had to do it again, I could probably cut the time by 1/3.

[ 05-17-2005, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: Don Maurer ]

[GaffRig]

Thanks for the input! It looks like I have some options then, I don't remember my garage dimensions, but I believe it is between 22' and 24' deep, and it is a double-bay wide (though half is supposed to be used for my wife's car, my workshop has taken over the whole thing except when it snows.)
I hadn't thought of the telescoping tongue or a hinge on the tongue. I could roll it out to the driveway when I need workshop space.....

I sure do Like the Penobscot 17 and it looks like it would be great to have Arch Davis just a quick phone call away.

My wheels are turnin'.....

[ 05-17-2005, 11:39 AM: Message edited by: GaffRig ]

[GaffRig]

Don,
You did a great job on that Tammie Norrie. Beautiful boat. May I ask what (if any) additional resources you used when building? Did you need to contact Iain at all, or did you find everything you needed in the plans. How about things such as the sail, did you have it custom made or does Iain sell them? Will the boat handle an outboard if needed?

Approximately what did she cost you to build and rig?

Thanks, if you have any more photos, please post, I have no imagestation membership.
Gaffrig

[ 05-17-2005, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: GaffRig ]

[Don Maurer]

My main sources of information were Iain's book and this forum. I did add stringers to the mold as suggested in Tom Hill's book. I think it makes it easier to get the planks and rolling bevels right. The plans are complete and accurate. Between the plans and the book you have more than enough information to build. Iain offers a lot of different options for fitting out the interior. He shows a few options on the plans, but most of the detail is in his book. The sail is straight off the sailplan. It was made by Dabbler Sails. Before he makes one for your boat, he requires you to measure the flex in the gaff to get the cut right. I purposely did not keep track of what the boat cost. I made the decision ahead of time to use only the best materials and make everthing as good as I could make no matter how long it took. I do know I spent more on belaying pins than some people spend building instant boats. You would have to do some modifications to the transom and/or rudder to mount an outboard. A 2 hp would overpower it. A trolling motor may work if you can mount it on a bracket.

[Venchka]

Originally posted by Don Maurer:
...I purposely did not keep track of what the boat cost. I made the decision ahead of time to use only the best materials and make everthing as good as I could make no matter how long it took. I do know I spent more on belaying pins than some people spend building instant boats.

There you go. That's the way to do it!

Wayne
In the Swamp.

[Keith Wilson]

Here's Don's lovely boat. I think I actually have built a boat (although not anywhere near as nice) in less time than it would have taken me to make the belaying bins.





[ 05-17-2005, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]