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    Oh dear Peter !!! What a pity ....a very good thread !
    Perfect is the enemy of good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter radclyffe View Post
    While trying to delete a post,being a computer cripple ,
    i mistakenly removed the thread
    check your private messages. . .
    I never learned from a man who agreed with me.

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    thanks Paul
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    Any chance Scot could revive it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    Any chance Scot could revive it?
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    It's been asked: no, he can't

    Nice re-start, Peter: keep the good stuff coming again

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    I'm horrified

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    alden was influenced by alexander paris, who designed jolie brise , built by paumelle
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma7Frkx4h3s
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    peter..
    some boat look very familliar to me on the first picts..!!. some gabares and other brest/douarnenez fleet..in britanny ... i repair some of them .. i have my first workshop in le conquet ! in 1984...
    kenavo ! cheer's
    bertrand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hwyl View Post
    I'm horrified
    Yeah it kinda sucks, but it appears Mr. Radclyffe has plenty more where that came from.
    I never learned from a man who agreed with me.

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    the original thread lives on in google's cache, at least for the next few days...

    http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=us

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    Damn your good Paul, bertho what is a gabare, are you french, do you know of August Turtu's boats
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    Good find, Paul. That was/is a fantastic read.

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    i was surprised to see latifa at marciana on the island last year, for european vintage boat folks, she holds a special place in history, i had a chat with mario pirlo her owner
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    Now That!!!is a beautiful boat!!!
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    Fife went on designing and building yachts well into his seventies. In 1935, aged 78, he designed one of his most admired ocean racing yachts, Latifa. She was one of his all-time favourites and, when he died in 1944, his sisters had a gilded model made of her. The real Latifa is still sailing in the Mediterranean, and the model is still on top of the spire of Fairlie Parish Church. Fife's grave is in the Largs cemetery, overlooking the waters where his beautiful designs made their mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    the original thread lives on in google's cache, at least for the next few days...

    http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=us

    http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=us
    Any one know if they can be put back on here somehow?
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    and the biggest wooden old gaffer
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    hi peter,
    the gabare was the local transport boat for everthing in britanny, sand/wood/stones... (you can see the "notre dame du rumengol" on the second pict... ) and auguste tertu the most skilly boatbuilder in our place, a legende, in "le sillon" just close to camaret, he desing and built our strong fishing boat ...

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    i should say gaff cutter,
    bertand, yes i studied his work, like cor nu its hard to find info on some of the french builders, is there another site like bateaux di bois
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    a yole
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    I wondered what had happened.... I looked for this thread, and thought ????
    Good start... Keep it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter radclyffe View Post
    i should say gaff cutter,
    bertand, yes i studied his work, like cor nu its hard to find info on some of the french builders, is there another site like bateaux di bois
    There's bateaubois.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter radclyffe View Post
    i mistakenly removed the thread
    oh well
    start again
    And that, friends, is the indispensable attribute that no good and experienced craftsman lacks. Can't do anything but move on, and right now, no whining. Right on Peter.

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    thanks Tom,
    my father taught me about diesel engines

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg9IyvFc0HY
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    one day a man on a mission walked into the yard where we repaired narrowboats, he told me he had a bolinder engine, & he was looking for a narrowboat to put it in, i asked him did he want a rotten boat or a sound boat,
    rotten he said, then he could take his time rebuilding it, we walked over to where 2 boats were moored together, a coke can had floated between them & sunk one of them, your in luck said i, we have what you want,
    6 grand to rebuild the bow
    9 grand for the stern
    & your divorce lawyer can advise you on the bit inbetween
    fine he said, where do i sign

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    for those that choose this towpath

    Waterways World - [ Traduci questa pagina ]
    Our new website is the companion to
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    steaming 2 inch oakplanking , fastening 3 inch elm bottom boards & rebuilding these boats frames, cratch beams, counters, cabins etc is good training
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    so while my mates in east anglia were talking baht ford cortinas, double overhead fuel injected turbo'n'uttar bastids,
    i was studying gardners, kelvins, fodens, widdop, sulzer, die industries, burmeister & wain, listers, petters, thorneycrofts, sabb,lombardini, baudoin, grenaa, brons, m.a.n, perkins/westerbeke,
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    Fiction or fact
    What is one of the most important things to make sure of, when you set out to sea ?
    That your boat is sound
    Do you ever hear this story about an old boat, whose owner reckoned he was a better navigator than, neil armstrong, christopher columbus & peter andre combined, who wrote books about what a good seaman he was, books ,like hand relief & beer, whose boat when he sold it turned out to be completely rotten,
    You couldn’t make it up
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    what rubbish, how preposterous, couldnt possibly be true
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    then theres all the people who have kept me going, like this great unsung hero
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter radclyffe View Post
    then theres all the people who have kept me going, like this great unsung hero
    Kathy Lette - [ Traduci questa pagina ]
    The official Kathy Lette website. ... Kathy Lette, quiplash. Kathy Lette, books. Kathy Lette, photos, Kathy Lette. work
    ???

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    the scanners back up

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    i built a new stern, deckbeams, half new framing, planking,deckshelves, stringers, washboards, coachroof on the 40ft, 1935, fred shepherd, berthons teak, pitch pine, oak & bronze gaff cutter Oenone,
    some clowns in a sicilian boatyard had put her in a bilge cradle without her lead keel touching the ground, then they were going to burn her, its the only time ive seen that someone had refastened a keel with brass keelbolts, which had wasted away in 7 years from 18mm to 6 mm, the methods used in the med are still a source of danger & amazement to me as i try to understand how people think here on boats, it is common here to use mastic instead of cotton/oakum & mastic to attempt to make seams watertight, many people here cannot seem the grasp the principle of wedging a seam shut, which stiffens a hull or deck like a cask

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    i re-aligned her rudder & bored a new sterntube,gunnel cap, bronze mini stanchions, what a wreck of a boat, her deck camber was reversed on her covering boards,and there those puddles of fresh water lay, i deduced that the original construction was weakly engineered, i have to be sure when stating this about a boat built by a well resepected yard,
    the problem i found was the beamshelves had collapsed due to insufficient fastening, copper bolts thru the top strake, so the huge weight of the long coachroof was resting on these washers, which had pulled thru the pitch pine,as you know the practice of increasing the length of coachroofs to resemble a tube train had increased pre-war to maximise accomodation, which is fine if it is supported by pillars at the bulkheads housed on the frames, which she did not have, so i put some in

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    counterblock, or archboard, deck, & caprail in teak
    beams, frames in oak/acacia,
    planking in cedar of lebanon, bronze screws from toplicht
    ply subdeck
    beam bolts s/s

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    Midsummer
    I made a new oregon pine winch box/hatch , & a teak folding drop leaf table & skylight for the 90ft dutch steel schooner Midsummer

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    Peter, what is the yacht in posts #44-45? Or have I missed something a bit too obscure for me maybe?
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