New Dory Build-Hull#1

[ShanefromMaine]

Greetings; just began construction of the glued-lapstrake Deblois St Dory designed by Clint Chase. Here are some photos of the parts and pieces that I've been working on. I'm hoping to be planking by the holidays. I'm going to try to post regularly as the boat progresses.



"Foiling" the daggerboard using Michal Storer's blade foil template:



Transom and Frames: patiently awaiting the strongback

[johngsandusky]

Beautiful work, thanks for the pics.

[Todd D]

Nice work. Nicer shop. A bit more organized than I prefer , but still very, very nice.

[StevenBauer]

Hey, Shane. Looking good. I saw your screen name yesterday and figured it was you. Welcome to the forum. Will you be bringing her to the Small Reach Regatta?



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[ShanefromMaine]

Steven I should sign up for the small reach regatta...would be a good incentive to finish the dory and get her in the water early in the summer.

[ShanefromMaine]

Welcome,

I was haoping someone would take up Clint's new dory design soon; it looks to me like a boat well worth building.

I'm curious about those little knee braces on your frame, and why you opted for that method?

As opposed to gussets, or overlapping the frame bottoms and sides, or laminating and sawing frames from one long peice??? They do look a little clunky in the photo but they look a little bit more elegant on the plans, and i think that they'll blend into the hull just fine once everythings together.

[Daniel Noyes]

excelent
congratulations Clint
Ill be watching, will we see you at the Small Reach Regatta 2010?
make sure you get signed up in January

[donald branscom]

Good work! Thanks for posting.

Seems like you would be smiling in at least one of those photos considering the nice work you have done.

[Clinton B Chase]

Good to see you on the Forum Shane. The frame knees are 'stolen' from a couple of Oughtred dories we built. I like the looks (you can shape the knees however you'd like... Shane could shave them down a bit to fine them up now if he felt like it was needed) and it make a very tough frame. Terry, you built a John Dory, did you use ply gussets? It's easy to plane the frame bevels with this arrangement, but the plans show that builders could certainly use ply gussets, too, a traditional thing to do. Culler used Apple crooks on one side only of the frame.

Shane, it would obviously be wicked cool to have you at the SRR, and you should register anyway, but there can be a lot of pressure from a deadline like that...enjoy the build. I'll be there with Drake, for sure, you can row/sail with me. You too Dan!

I'll post a sketch of the Dory to give some idea of what the profile will look like. The plank lines are sketched and the half-breadth plan is not what I drew, and she can be rigged with a sprit or a lug. This was an early sketch, but the profile is definite. She is 18'6" x 4'10" but beamier on the waterline with more waterline beam carried aft than used to be done. I think Gardner started doing this in his day.

[Clinton B Chase]

Floorboards, there ain't no stinkin' floorboards in this boat! Or maybe there will be. Hmmm, Shane?

Edited to add: Yep, just drew them in.

[ShanefromMaine]

Started setting up molds and frames yesterday...no going back now!














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[Clinton B Chase]

Good talk about oars for dories at the recent thread....

http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107718

--Clint

[StevenBauer]

Any new progress? Garboards, maybe? Applications are out for the SRR.


Steven

[P.L.Lenihan]

Cheeses! What is it with you guys and your lovely,organized,clean,well lit, toolfull shops and not a fridge or cooler in sight?! It makes me sick!!Ya hear,sick,sick,sick!

Welcome Shane and thanks for the nice photos. Looks like a wonderful design too! A grand inspiration it is for many I'm certain, even if your shop just makes me sick,sick,sick!



Cheers!


Peter, shopless,disorganized and toolpoor. Oh yeah, and sick,sick,sick!

[StevenBauer]

It's not actually his shop, Peter. That's the Compass Project shop, where he works. And as for the lack of a beer cooler they do teach kids boatbuilding there, you know. Some of us volunteers were scolded big time once for drinking beer at the shop. It was at night and there were no kids there and we were done using the power tools. But let me tell you, we've been much more careful about hiding the evidence since then.


Steven

[Bill R]

Hey Shane! Dunno how I missed this, but welcome and looking good.

[P.L.Lenihan]

Thanks for the clarifying that for me Steven. I somehow feel better and fully understand and appreciate the need to keep things on the up and up, what with kids alearning and folks ateaching....not to mention this being a project shop etc.

Kudos on refining your stealth tactics for adult beverage consumption!!


Cheers!

Peter,symptom free and feeling thirsty all of a sudden

[Clinton B Chase]

Shane is fairing up the set up. Nothing out of the ordinary, but he is tweaking here and there, beveling, fairing and maybe lining off the planks again for the last check. I try to get in for a picture. He is busy with a week long intensive building two 12' skiffs and 2 sets of oars with 8 kids in one week!

[Clinton B Chase]

Shane is planking his dory. Garboard and first broadstrakes are glued on, he is making pattern for next broad.

Everything looks good for a first build. I am pleased. There will be a few tweaks, namely in the third frame (adding some width to it to fair to the other frames better...the boat has a lot of beam for a dory aft so this frame needs to carry that beam aft better) and maybe tweak the sheer. Shane is a very good (and patient) builders, I am glad he is the first builder.

[Clinton B Chase]

[CundysHarbor]

Go gettem Shane, you are doing a great job.

[Clinton B Chase]

Those are questions for the builder, Terry, but good ones....he has faired the gaps out, those are pics from when he was fairing the setup, I believe. Of course, he's beveling the frames.

I can speak to the design...yes...she is beamier on the waterline which makes here trickier to fair than most dories. The third frame aft, as I mentioned, was gappy, so I am adding wood to that frame so future builders can just shave to fair it into other frames. Until I set one up myself (full size and maybe after lofting) I can only make minor changes. But so far that is all she needs. Yes, she is more a sailer, but still a 50/50 sail and oar boat. I am drawing a larger yawl rig set up for a 19 1/2' version...a lug yawl and a sprit main yawl about 110 SF total. The boat was kept 5 strake so it can be done with all timber. Yes, you could combine the gbd and first broad to make one wide garboard. It'll be hard to twist into the stem, but not too much so, I wouldn't think.

Shane can answer the building questions. He has the lines looking good after the fair up.

[StevenBauer]

Hey Clint, how about a field trip after work this afternoon to check out the progress?


Steven

[Clinton B Chase]

I see what you mean, Terry. I try to get Shane to post and say something...I don't want to hijack his thread. He is busy with the boat (it's a whole lotta boat!) and is running a lot of groups of kids building many other boats...

Thanks for looking and I sure hope to at least make a hull next winter maybe, depending.

Clint

[ShanefromMaine]

Thanks for posting the photos Clint. If anybody is in the Portland area and would like to come check out the boat in progress just let me know.

Not too much to update I'm just chugging away here at planking...hoping that by the time I get "down" to the sheer strake I'll finally get the hang of it.

[Bill R]

Since Shane has been slacking in his mandated posting duties...

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[Bill R]

In person it is a really sweet looking boat- the pics really don't do it justice. It was hard to get a good picture since the shop is crowded and it is a whole lot of boat. It is bigger than it looks in the pictures.

[Westley]

B-E-A-U-tiful.

[StevenBauer]

Wow! Looking great! I've got to get down there and check her out in person.


Steven

[JakeOntheMaine]

Hot Damn and Boy Howdy, buddy! She's lookin real nice! It's been incredible watching this boat go together at the shop, and seeing her hull all turned and seat risers in!; They grow up so fast...
Amazing job, Shane, as i've told you before, really incredible.

Clint, also, wicked design! I'm really psyched to see this boat go together, keeping in mind that one of my old teachers designed it and the other is building it. I'm always amazed by folks designing boats, even more so when i know them. Right On!

Guess I'll go work on my baby-boat...

[Clinton B Chase]

Great discussion going on:

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?t=114554

[ShanefromMaine]

A bit of a jump from my last post....I'm priming and painting and trying to get her all ready for next week.

[StevenBauer]

How is the painting coming, Shane? I was very impressed when I finally got to see the dory in person last week. What an awesome boat. Are you heading down to Mystic on Thursday?



Steven

[StevenBauer]

Shane, the boat looked great at the Show, have you been out sailing yet? The wind has been awesome the last couple of days.



Steven

[StevenBauer]

So what's going on here? I know you've been out sailing by now. We want pics!



Steven

[Clinton B Chase]

I was pleased and proud to hear that the boat was launched and Shane was more than happy about how she handled. He is very experienced in dories, so I was happy to hear that news after 12 hours of mast making in a 90 degree shop!

[David G]

Clint,

Very pretty. Congrats!

[StevenBauer]

We got back to our mooring after our first sail of the season on Talisman but since there was still some daylight we decided to motor up to the old swing bridge to charge up the batteries. On our way back guess who we saw? Shane! In the Deblois Street Dory!















She looked awesome, Shane. I'm sure she will have lots of fun adventures on Casco Bay.

Steven

[ShanefromMaine]

Hey Steven thanks for posting these! Pretty spiffy camera phone!

I am jealous about the SRR--i do think that the dory would be a lot of fun up there.

[callsign222]

It's already winning over the ladies! Yeah!

Beautiful.

Why the sprit rig over the balanced lug drawn by CC?

[Daniel Noyes]

Very nice

congratulations Clint and Shane!

how about a few words on performance.

A rope traveler for the main sheet, tied across just ahead of the rear seat would allow captain and crew to sit together on seats 2 and 3, this would have the effect of lightening the ends and making for better conversation while sailing.

good job
Dan

[donald branscom]

Greetings; just began construction of the glued-lapstrake Deblois St Dory designed by Clint Chase. Here are some photos of the parts and pieces that I've been working on. I'm hoping to be planking by the holidays. I'm going to try to post regularly as the boat progresses.
(Photos omitted)
"Foiling" the daggerboard using Michal Storer's blade foil template:
Transom and Frames: patiently awaiting the strongback

You look pissed off. I would think you would be smiling at the good work you have just completed? LOL

[Clinton B Chase]

I just spoke to Shane by phone to wish him congratulations on the launch. He is one happy camper. His choice in color scheme was great, showing how important it is to a new boat: Hatteras off white exterior, varnished sheer strake inside/out, and a light gray interior.

He was sailing w/o the 100 lbs of ballast I specify, but he says it feels OK. He says the boat flies along just fine. With the small sprit and at least one or two crew, no interior ballast does mean the boat will be easier to row. For wind and new sailors, ballast would be important. The mizzen is still missing, but only adds 18 SF and is mainly used as a trim mizzen rather than to power the boat.

The sprit looks better I think than the lug, which says a lot seeing that I am a 'lug-brain'. I have drawn a lug-yawl option though and think it would work better on the ~19'2" stretched hull (more space between mizzen and end of lug boom).

Dan is right on about a rope traveler over stern sheets (it would pass in front of mizzen mast). The sheet would then lead fwd. to helmsman.

[Clinton B Chase]

I finally got to go out in Shane's Deblois St Dory after much delay. We rowed, solo and tandem. I was struck by how spacious and big she felt. Rowing alone, she felt light, which she certainly is though we don't have a weight yet (I'd estimate she is 190). I was quite satisfied with how she tracked. Many of us know how dories tend to gripe but the small skeg seems to hold her in a cross breeze. However, she is light and has freeboard so their was certainly some windage.

I did the good ole' gunwale test and I was able to sit (I'm 215lb) on the gunwale leaning into the center of the boat. She is more stable than most dories I've been in even the Beachcomber feels a little more tender initially.

I definitely felt like this was a boat I could put my kids into and feel safe, something I was wondering since she was designed.

I had a blast and we have yet to sail. Next time, we'll sail with the sprit rig Shane made for his John Dory.

[Thorne]

Sweet!

[Clinton B Chase]

Shane built this boat from a table of offsets taken from a 1/4 scale lofting of the boat!



DoryLinedOffBow by Clint Chase Boatbuilder, on Flickr

[StevenBauer]

We bumped into Shane out in the Bay again yesterday. I haven't uploaded any pics yet but here's a little video:





Steven