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    Wow..... Book press hand screw tail vise? Nice touch!

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    Regardless...I think a Chicken Pot Pie is in order......

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    This is how I found it. Behind a pile of old doors. My brother didn't even know it was there.


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    Needs a vase of roses..... And a black and white cat....

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    This is how I found it. Behind a pile of old doors. My brother didn't even know it was there.

    Those are the best finds...hope you have put it to good use.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracey Ledger View Post
    I can't believe that my own wife is spamming my thread.
    >

    maybe you should get her her own computer
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    >

    maybe you should get her her own computer
    And she needs to get her own photobucket account.

    I'm starting a new thread, this ones shot to hell.

    Oh, Paul, it's Titebond 2, glued up one joint at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Oh, Paul, it's Titebond 2, glued up one joint at a time.
    Thank you Jim.
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Thank you Jim.
    No problem, almost missed ya in all the spam.
    Last edited by Jim Ledger; 11-22-2009 at 02:19 PM.

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    Spam? Did somebody say Spam?!


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    Waitress:
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    served in a provencale manner with shallots and aubergines
    garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and spam.

    Wife:
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    Customer:
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    Wife:
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    Hasn't got much spam in it as spam, eggs, sausage and spam has it?

    (Choir: Spam! Spam! Spam!...)

    Wife:
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    spam and spam?

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    Customer:
    Morning,

    Waitress:
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    Customer:
    What have you got?

    Waitress:
    Well, there's egg and bacon,
    egg sausage and bacon
    Egg and spam
    Egg, bacon and spam
    Egg, bacon, sausage and spam
    Spam, bacon, sausage and spam
    Spam, egg, spam, spam, bacon and spam
    Spam, sausage, spam, spam, spam, bacon, spam tomato and spam
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    Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam and spam.

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    Or Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce
    served in a provencale manner with shallots and aubergines
    garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and spam.

    Wife:
    Have you got anything without spam?

    Waitress:
    Well, the spam, eggs, sausage and spam
    That's not got much spam in it

    Wife:
    I don't want any spam!

    Customer:
    Why can't she have eggs, bacon, spam and sausage?

    Wife:
    That's got spam in it!

    Customer:
    Hasn't got much spam in it as spam, eggs, sausage and spam has it?

    (Choir: Spam! Spam! Spam!...)

    Wife:
    Could you do me eggs, bacon, spam and sausage without the spam, then?

    Waitress:
    Iiiiiiiiiiiich!!

    Wife:
    What do you mean 'Iiiiiiiiiich'? I don't like spam!

    (Choir: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!)

    Waitress (to choir):
    Shut up!

    (Choir: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!)

    Waitress:
    Shut Up! Bloody Vikings!
    You can't have egg, bacon, spam and sausage without the spam.

    Wife:
    I don't like spam!

    Customer:
    Shush dear, don't have a fuss. I'll have your spam. I love it,
    I'm having spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans,
    spam, spam, spam, and spam!

    (Choir: Spam! Spam! Spam! Spam! Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!)

    Waitress:
    Shut Up!! Baked beans are off.

    Customer:
    Well, could I have her spam instead of the baked beans then?

    Waitress:
    You mean spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam,
    spam and spam?

    Choir (intervening):
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    Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!
    Spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam.
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    Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
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    Oh, now look what I've gone and started. Boy am I ever gonna hear about this! Sorry, deer...

    Peter take that post off, or no soup for you !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracey Ledger View Post
    Oh, now look what I've gone and started. Boy am I ever gonna hear about this! Sorry, deer...

    Peter take that post off, or no soup for you !

    Good morning Mrs.Ledger. Kindly offer my portion of what I am confident is a soup most delicious to Mr.Ledger, just after you give him a boot toward that bowshed.


    Thank you!



    Cheers!


    Peter


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    Don't feel too bad about the deer Mrs.Ledger. Afterall, t'wasn't you who drove into him was it?.NO! PERISH THE THOUGTH!
    Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
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    This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.

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    Why titebond II, Jim? I mostly use titebond III now.


    Steven

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    Why titebond II, Jim? I mostly use titebond III now.


    Steven
    Nice work on that old bench, Steven. Did it have a vise at the other end at one time?

    I use Titebond 2 because that's what was on the Home Depot shelf the last time I went glue shopping. Never one to turn up my nose at something "new" or "improved", I'd have probably sprung for the latest version had it been available. However, I don't think this bench will be in any danger of falling apart. At least for the few years that I have left. After that, it'll be someone else's worry.

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    Jim, the interesting conundrum about building a good bench, is that you need a good bench to build it on! I can't imagine throwing around maple slabs on top of a card table.
    About 10 years ago I had an oppurtunity to build my first bench and I based it on a plan from FW. It was touted as an entry level bench, and I built mine from clear fir 2 x 4 stock, I figured it would last me a few years and would be a good platform to build a "real" bench on. Well I still use that bench everyday and it does everything I need it to do, so I don't think I will build another bench, I'd rather use the time to build furniture. Benches are like old friends, you get used to working on them.
    It will be fun to watch you construct this one. Any particular plan? or is it a hybrid of ones you have used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44xt View Post
    Any particular plan? or is it a hybrid of ones you have used?
    No particular plan, as such. My joiners bench was built to the Franz Klaus plans that were published in Fine Woodworking, except that I built it left handed. the wooden vises added a lot of labor to the design as well as making the bench more complicated overall. Utilizing metal vises will speed this build up considerably and allow a simpler design. The bench will be little more than a heavy laminated slab sitting on a trestle base, with a tool tray incorporated at the back.

    This is the lamination so far. The strips were all glued up, one to another. Now, the doubled laminates are glued together one at a time. I do two or three glue-ups per day, between other jobs. By the end of the week the slab should be ready to flatten.


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    The glued up top after trimming the ends and some sanding.


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    There's a name for this. Maybe somebody knows what it is.



    These are the chunks of wood that go on the end of the top to keep things in line. After they are assembled, nobody will ever know what's in there. It might as well have been a plywood spline. The things we do for fun, eh?

    Last edited by Jim Ledger; 11-29-2009 at 07:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    If I had a shop like that, I'd be doing the same! Unfortunately, my 'shop' is a one car garage which is shared, in the winter, with a snowblower and motorcycle
    Put them outside under a tarp.
    NOW YOU HAVE A SHOP!!!! See that was easy.
    I love the smell of fresh cut plywood in the morning.

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    There is indeed a name for it. Dead sexy, that's what that is.


    Good lookin' bench. I don't think I say this often enough but you do really nice work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donald branscom View Post
    Put them outside under a tarp.
    NOW YOU HAVE A SHOP!!!! See that was easy.
    It's all a matter of priorities, isn't it Don?

    Blighty, thank you.

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    Just beautiful, thank you.

    A question, sir. Is soft maple the best wood for a bench, or was it just sitting around? If you could pick the ideal wood for a bench, what would it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    Just beautiful, thank you.

    A question, sir. Is soft maple the best wood for a bench, or was it just sitting around? If you could pick the ideal wood for a bench, what would it be?
    Thank you, Chris.

    I'm doing a job using a large quantity of soft maple, so it was on hand. I would rate it one of the ideal woods to use for a bench. Fast growing and plentiful, it's fairly cheap at $3/bf, KD, in the rough. The color is a consistent whitish with some light brown areas. The surface is smooth with a closed grain. There are virtually no knots. The "soft" in the name is only in comparison to "hard" maple and not a good indicator of the woods actual hardness. It glues well, finishes to a high degree, if desired, machines well, works easily with sharp hand tools, holds a detail, fairly heavy, quite strable once dried.Aall of these are good qualities for a bench. Its rot resistance is low, but that's not really a big problem for this application.

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    Masterful, as always. I don't know the proper word for the joinery in your breadboard end (shouldered tenons?), but it's a thing of beauty.

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    Thanks, Bruce, we're all looking forward to the next guitar thread, you know.

    There's going to be a simple trestle type base to hold things up. While things progress on the top, the parts for the base are being glued up. The stock on hand is all 4/4 and 5/4, so all the chunky base pieces have to be laminated.

    This is going to be one of the "feet". There are two mortises going through it to accept the upright legs. In order to save labor, I'm trying to form the mortises by leaving spaces in the center lamination. If you look closely, you might see that the mortises are angled slightly so the tenons can be wedged. The center section was glued on first. Afterwards, the end bits were positioned with a spacer and glued. Simple and it works, so why not?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    There's a name for this. Maybe somebody knows what it is.


    My first guess would be"insanity". I'll have to go and check further with my DSM IV before getting any more precise than this.

    Otherwise,terribly nice work and just further proof that I do indeed have 10 thumbs!! It's enough to make me cry!!

    Cheers!



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    Quote Originally Posted by P.L.Lenihan View Post
    It's enough to make me cry!!

    Cheers!



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    Better keep the Kleenex handy, Peter.

    Oh, wait, I'm sure I don't have to tell you that.

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    What is it with you Ledger's and deleting posts? Nice bench.

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    Thanks, Paul.

    Here's a little detail, not as dramatic as the tenons, but I can only take so much excitement before I have to sit down and catch my breath.

    The end caps, for lack of a proper name, are now tapped into place. The end grain of the slab has had a good soaking with polyurethane to keep the movement to a minimum. Each cap is fastened to the slab with a half inch bolt, as shown, holes slightly oversize to allow movement.



    This is the underside of the bench. The nut sits in a pocket that intersects the bolt hole.


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    Will there be washers on that bolt and nut?

    Thanks for sharing,

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Palmer View Post
    Will there be washers on that bolt and nut?

    Brian
    On the nut, definitely not. I'm not too happy about the size of the bolthole under the head, but I hate to have to put a washer there because of the way it would look. The bolts need very little pressure to do their job, they're only retaining the cap from coming off, not pulling the joint together, so I may get away without the washer.

    This might be a good place for a bronze clench ring on a piece of bronze rod, threaded for a nut inside.

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    Curious that the bolt is centered on a glue joint....

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    Curious, right. Don't make me start calling you names, Dougy. If I want my thread bumped, I can bump it meself, wit pichas too, ya wombat.

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    In what way could that bolt or its hole contribute to the failure of that glue joint? The joint is in compression parallel to the length of the glue line. Maybe there should be several lengths of all thread running from the front to back of the bench top?

    Brian

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    The threaded rod might be overkill, Brian, but I wished that I'd have thought to do it earlier. Drilling would be tricky at this point.

    This is a rail that gets glued to the front of the top. Each end of the rail is dovetailed into the end caps. The joint gets traced onto the end cap and a recess cut. This, along with a similar arrangement at the back, locks the end caps in place


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