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    Theyre in A division, and the patiki boys are indeed the grandsons of the original owner. Here we are getting rolled by Thelma

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    Great!!

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    If there was anything more appropriate as around the yards/ scale of the thing/ job I don't know what it is . This was a big project , phenomenally well organised and managed.

    For those of you who missed the Gypsy thread

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    Gypsy and friends

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    This boat from earlier in thread is Nahlin, a superyacht with a difference and well worth looking up.



    On sat we continued with all our boat maintenance jobs but took a walk later . She's now moved and is being birdnested out for shrink wrapping, they evidently have some serious painting or varnishing in mind.







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    Sunday we took a decent break and went off on a few local short bush walks.

    Some very nice Kauri which survived the pioneer and colonial / post colonial bushmans axe,



    Kauri of course , is the NZ timber used here for historically for everything from boats to houses , furniture , you name it.
    Heavily milled for spars and later general export. The young trees stand tall and straight , a foot in diameter perhaps...30 or 50 ft with no boughs until right at the top, you can see why the British navy were so enamoured by it for their spars . A lot of San Francisco was built of it too. The photos are of much older trees, the bigger one being perhaps 5 or 600 years.


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    Sunday afternoon I went back to the boat and came across this wee honey parked at Westhaven. I thought my car was small... ( especially as a counterpoint to the '59 chev earlier in the thread) but these are tiny.



    I do love an MGA though.

    edit , the chev counterpoint..



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    Interesting looking scaffolding set up JB....gotta wonder how they plan to do anything in theire with all that mess in the way.
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    John, that Kauri.... is it on the Coromandel, or closer to home?
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    I don't know Greg, those wide sections aft makes me wonder if they're tenting out over the hull... but they wouldn't be doing a hull repaint in the water, I think.. shirley?
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    Interesting looking scaffolding set up JB....gotta wonder how they plan to do anything in theire with all that mess in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    John, that Kauri.... is it on the Coromandel, or closer to home?

    Just in the Waitakeries Ian., so 20 or 30 minutes from home say. we did a "1 1/4 hour walk "in 35 minutes so gawd only knows how they get that time. Then another 20 minute one . pretty good really , great variety of trees. Kauri including the rikas ( juvenile trees that look like masts) kahikatea, which is another huge clear pine and was heavily milled for spars ( until they worked out that you spit on it and it rots) rewa rewa( nz honeysuckle). Totara, a lightish and resilient timber.. Really interesting , its been years since we've benn out there.

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    I'm going to go all political on you here, John.

    Paul Keating was never my favourite politician at the time, but in hindsight, he did some good things.... mostly as Treasurer. He lost it a bit as Prime Minister...

    However, in his earlier days, his early days of political involvement, he fought some interesting battles. He also moonlighted as the manager of a band, The Ramrods..... and he drove an E Type Jag



    That be the then future Prime Minister and his E Type.

    To quote Keating, "it met a sticky end". He took it to the Labor Party State Conference.... and some lefty scumbag tipped a tin of brake fluid all over it.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    I don't know Greg, those wide sections aft makes me wonder if they're tenting out over the hull... but they wouldn't be doing a hull repaint in the water, I think.. shirley?
    Weird, almost looks like they may be making up a movie prop out of it...could make an interesting quiz as a thread on its own...I'll be interested to see what they do.....
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    Monday morning is here again....Spectacular weather this weekend. The forecast for sat was dire but the system they had in mind went elsewhere and we just had a totally magnificent 2 days and quite a busy time for us . Sat morn was an early start to turn the boat around and polish the starboard side, my arms want to drop off now despite the machine I bought to help.

    On saturday afternoon we shot off 12 miles or so for the night but caught our boy out for a sail on one of the old AC charter boats at SailNZ. What a great experience. One of the classic boat guys had spare tickets and invited him and some CYA glitterati ( like WBF'er Jason) out for a team building experience.
    There was some talk of 8 or 9 knots of breeze but thats on Bean rock , which can over read. We could do about 5 in Riada, but this thing just trucked on through. They're still quick even detuned.






    cute cloud shadowing Rangitoto I thought.


    Nahlin does now look more like they're going for the full repaint on the water



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    We came across my fathers old boat while out... She's a wooden ,cold moulded boat design by John Senior. Reacher 36,...They have following here as good coastal cruiser.



    and another CYA friend Simon , out in his powerful Townson cruiser/racer Hotspur.


    speaking of Des Townson...

    a Pied Piper out doing what Piedies do best, get young people on the water..



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    on sunday am we left our bay at 7.30 to zing back to town for another CYA stalwart ,Baden Pascoes' book launch . A history of one of our prominent boatbuilding yards ( Percy Voss)through the 1940's on predominantly. Launching Dreams , I haven't had more than a flick through yet but I'm looking forward to it.
    and then off to the Jag show run the Viaduct. Quite small and more and more new cars represented in there , but interesting none the less.

    Noice.



    but back to the scale of the thing....

    Steinie has just been relaunched after a mega rebuild and she's looking fantastic





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    Looking pretty happy....is that because of the sailing or the number of young lasses on board:

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    He was busy shouting stuff like , "you'll have to do better than that".
    Can you see Jase has a smile on his face too. Good thing we have that particularly rare bird captured. winky smiley face added for the sensitive types.

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    'A' was leaving the Waitemata on Friday afternoon when we were off for the weekend...







    and coming back on sunday afternoon , Nahlin was back in her berth after her refit , she's been away somewhere for a cruise I imagine. She looks pretty astonishing,.... thats all gold leaf.





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    I could just see the wealthy nautical version of Mick Dundee saying, "That's not a super yacht!" about 'A' as it departs and parking Nahlin in it's place... "Now THAT'S a superyacht!"
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    'A' turned up down here Sunday morning. Is parked out in the middle of the inner harbour:



    So we thought the only decent thing to do was a circuit in a 119 year old boat, topsail and all, to compare elegance with excess:





    We won. Now Nahlin would be a different kettle of fish. I think we'd just genuflect.

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    Oh , you'd be in my old friend little Thelma ,wouldn't you Patrick?

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    Not a lot of scope on that anchor
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    Interesting how far back the anchor hawse on "A" sits considering that bow and the windage that it must capture. I wonder how much chafe she suffers underneath......but I can't imagine there's much they could do differently to avoid it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    Interesting how far back the anchor hawse on "A" sits considering that bow and the windage that it must capture. I wonder how much chafe she suffers underneath......but I can't imagine there's much they could do differently to avoid it.

    A perfect example of form over function. Architects who didn't understand that form follows function were the bane of my life for the first ten years of my career. You'd tell them what would happen, they would stamp their authority on the project... then 3 months later be chasing you to fix the problems that you told them would occur.

    The first thing I looked for on that photo of it anchored, was evidence of chafing. I suppose they have a touch up system worked out by now.
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    Exactly my thoughts . I ended up deciding they must run a round the clock anchor watch and re anchor from the other side whenever tide or wind conflict might cause the chain to come too close to the hull. I'm sure they have tons out though Ian, just light conditions and the chain is hanging vertically.

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    and just for nostalgias sake.. one of the first photos I ever posted on the WBF



    That is , assuming my calculated guess as to what Patrick is sailing is correct.( Little Thelma in the foreground.)

    and the camry as well! well lookit .. (snuffle snort yawn stretch, sorry ... I fell asleep for a moment there), lookit that.
    Those were the days, summertime , when the living was easy , and the cotton was high.
    Also me , being at the top of my mast.
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    I'd assume that given the wedge spent on gold plated taps and so forth they'd have a pretty sophisticated system set up to anchor with, using GPS, thrusters and all sorts of other high tech gizmos that a guy like Steve Jobs could afford and have the tech know how to integrate into the ship. Still pretty fugly.

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    They'd more than likely have an at-anchor stabilising system Duncan, which is pretty common now, but unless they've come up with some sort of at-anchor bow thruster system I can't see any way of avoiding the bow blowing over the anchor chain in some circumstances. Perhaps they have chafe plate underneath.
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    Yes, on Thelma (although marginally shorter now than you've captured, due to the removal (but retention) of her counter).

    Believe me, you'll know when it's Rogue.

    I couldn't figure out the anchoring either. 'A' rotated a lot, to keep bow into the wind (northerly, then southerly, then easterly, then northerly). But the chain stayed vertical off port throughout.

    Speaking of being up one's mast, MetService is hosting particularly good quality full screen 24 hour webcams (sorry: can't figure out how to link directly to it - look down the MetService page, under the heading 'Maps, radar and videos'). The Auckland Marina one (open webcam, use right side menu to get to it) is featuring today in the life of Nahlin. Quite fun, scrolling through the day's tides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickXavier View Post
    Yes, on Thelma (although marginally shorter now than you've captured, due to the removal (but retention) of her counter).

    Believe me, you'll know when it's Rogue.

    I couldn't figure out the anchoring either. 'A' rotated a lot, to keep bow into the wind (northerly, then southerly, then easterly, then northerly). But the chain stayed vertical off port throughout.

    Speaking of being up one's mast, MetService is hosting particularly good quality full screen 24 hour webcams (sorry: can't figure out how to link directly to it - look down the MetService page, under the heading 'Maps, radar and videos'). The Auckland Marina one (open webcam, use right side menu to get to it) is featuring today in the life of Nahlin. Quite fun, scrolling through the day's tides.
    All I can find is a still shot of Wellington in the rain! And various other places which I think are in or near Wellington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    Exactly my thoughts . I ended up deciding they must run a round the clock anchor watch and re anchor from the other side whenever tide or wind conflict might cause the chain to come too close to the hull. I'm sure they have tons out though Ian, just light conditions and the chain is hanging vertically.

    With 32 crew there would be no storage of anchor watchers :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickXavier View Post
    Yes, on Thelma (although marginally shorter now than you've captured, due to the removal (but retention) of her counter).

    Believe me, you'll know when it's Rogue.

    I couldn't figure out the anchoring either. 'A' rotated a lot, to keep bow into the wind (northerly, then southerly, then easterly, then northerly). But the chain stayed vertical off port throughout.

    Speaking of being up one's mast, MetService is hosting particularly good quality full screen 24 hour webcams (sorry: can't figure out how to link directly to it - look down the MetService page, under the heading 'Maps, radar and videos'). The Auckland Marina one (open webcam, use right side menu to get to it) is featuring today in the life of Nahlin. Quite fun, scrolling through the day's tides.

    The rise and fall is great to watch. Thanks
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    Maybe they've got some kind of underwater, fold out dooverlacky that clasps the chain in the vertical. The kind of mechanism that would appear on a boat that was owned by Dr Evil.
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    Also, I've just realised that that Auckland Marina webcam is presenting front and centre our Classic Yacht Association's Heritage Landing.

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