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    One particularly interesting aspect to the job is the way the two boatbuilders work together. Jacques is a man of terrific skills as I said earlier, who specialises in working with classics and wooden boats .
    John is a man who did his time at a prominent Auckland boatbuilders yard,( Lidgards) typically working on multi skin kauri glued hulls of the 70's and 80's ( I believe) but who now has been responsible for some of the fastest multihulls NZ has ever seen , building using modern exotic materials and methods.
    So the partnership sounds like an extremely well founded one especially on this project where the job simply must be finished on budget( time) without compromising quality.

    And here's an example of the lateral thinking the partnership brings.

    This is the bib or transom timber which was completely broken off the boat.



    and another view..



    To speed the job ( in this area) and because they're clever guys.... they reformed up half the piece as it should have been with filler, established some measurement points , and had the thing CNC cut from roughly shaped laminated blocking for a perfect and perfectly symetrical job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    Hot though.. those things can't get airflow through the cabin for love nor money.
    Ya know - they make a model of that car that has a soft top that folds down out of the way & lets lots of breeze in. Check it out!

    On a more serious note - the pic of Ngataringa made my stomach drop about a foot. I'm so glad to see her getting rebuilt!

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    Thanks for the report on Ngataringa, John, and the road trip too.

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    I'd have to sell a kid to get one without a roof Garret, we drove the whole way with the windows down and I suppose there was air movement when we were going .. slow down though and it was toast city.

    Yeah Thad, it was great to see how she'd come on.. because the boat is remote I just hadn't seen it at all and really she's going to be good as new if not better.There was a critical time there where it was a serious option that she would be written off.
    Those guys don't work by rote, they're thinking and applying knowledge all the time.They increased the rebates on the transom timber for more surface area for example. All the scarfs are 16:1. The decision has been made to not hang the backstay off the strap( in that rebate) as she was... rather they will have a deck fitting bolted through slightly inboard for a better geometry and strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    I'd have to sell a kid to get one without a roof Garret, we drove the whole way with the windows down and I suppose there was air movement when we were going .. slow down though and it was toast city.
    Wow - you must have great kids if they're worth that much!

    I hear you on price. If I only had even one of my 140's today. Or Healy's, or lots of things......

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    All the scarfs are 16:1.
    Which scarfs John?
    Rick

    By the way, thanks for posting this - lovely boat and great to see this excellent work being done. As they say, it's an ill wind ........

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    All the deck scarfs Rick, Not sure about the planking but if you look at that under counter shot, they look long as well.

    If you go here

    http://www.classicyacht.org.nz/site/forums and look in classics around the yards there's a whole thread.

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    a couple of shots on the move... Rawhiti on her way to the boatyard after her 6 year restoration( thread in B and R)






    I even was asked to move my car over closer so they could haul a Team NZ cat.


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    I showed my wife the first of the "before" photos sitting in the shop with the transom missing. She recoiled in honest horor saying it was like looking at an amputation. So I showed her the final photo above after reconstruction. Beautiful boat with a great deal of character. It must have broken hearts when the damage was first done.

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    Simply sex on a keel. But then I always have been a sucker for long overhangs.....

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    You might be mixing a couple of boats up there CW. Ngataringa has had her counter replaced after the mooring munch up and I'll be seeing her again in a couple of weeks. I agree with what you say, I just felt physically ill myself when I first saw that photo.
    Rawhiti, the most recent photos in my what can I park my car under or near thread is Rawhiti , which is just off a 6 year restoration and will be launched tomorrow. Thread in building and repair.

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    The last time I was on the water, Friday last week, was the opening ceremony for the rugby world cup which is on here ATM.
    We snaffled a ride on Destination and snuck out into the no-go zone and came across this lurking in the dark.....



    ah yes , the profile of a well known classic , the Nagatira.
    They'd been given GPS coordinates as to where to anchor alongside other classic or whatevers to put on a bit of a show.

    We did sneak the anchor down but got turfed out by some people in white coats in RIBs, so we moved about oooo 70 metres and camoflaged by darkness, re anchored.
    Be prepared for some photographs following, on viewing it's compulsory to say ooooo, ahhh, cor lummee.....


    oo



    ahhh


    Corrrr


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    Incidentally , the Mig 21 a page or so back featured in the newspaper recently. The guy who bought it has now had it lifted onto the roof of the commercial building it was parked in front of. 2 interesting little facts, he paid $60k for it . It cost $60k to have the roof structure etc and the crane lift. A $NZ120K billboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    The last time I was on the water, Friday last week, was the opening ceremony for the rugby world cup which is on here ATM.


    My very Welsh cousin's Son in law, is playing in that, a certain Mr Sheridan, certainly confuses the loyalties (actually it doesn't, I'm still hoping the team with the Kiwi coach does well, a bit unlucky to start out)

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    The fireworks over the harbour: stunning!

    Thanks for the effort, mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hwyl View Post
    My very Welsh cousin's Son in law, is playing in that, a certain Mr Sheridan, certainly confuses the loyalties (actually it doesn't, I'm still hoping the team with the Kiwi coach does well, a bit unlucky to start out)
    I've got a feeling I should know who that is but the truth is, I don't. Prolly will next time JOE plays I suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip-skiff View Post
    The fireworks over the harbour: stunning!

    Thanks for the effort, mate.
    I was reading back , its a funny thread isn't it. A bit odd some would say.

    Yeah it was a great night although "someone" was a bit belligerent when confronted with jumped up parking attendants with a mandate to disqualify fun in the name of the greater good and just because. It's all good curmudgeon training.

    We shot back to the marina in amongst a stream of boats and stayed aboard ours for the night in the marina. Destination and Riada are neighbours, how handy.

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    The plane moved a while back to a new position. I was out 'buying a paper' and stopped for a look. I ended up with a MIG in the sun.....




    ...

    and on the way home I stopped for a look at another boat, plane or sumpin....




    I actually have a fondness for 1959 Chevs/ GM, I had a '59 Pontiac when I was a young fella. The Chevrolet agents/ importers of the day didn't bring the whole range into NZ, mostly we had just 4 door post cars and the occasional 4 door pillarless, not many 2 doors at all. This Bel air 2 door post ( manual too) is a recent import.
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    Oh come on JB - we know this is just a gratuitous attempt at showing off that E Type of yours! Beautiful as it is .....

    Rick

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    geez wayne, and here's me thinking I should sell it and get a chevvy instead....... like the ooooollld days.

    Don't you like the 'hun in the sun' shot, I thought it was funny.

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    I do like the sun shot. I had an army officer wanting to arrest me for taking photos of that very model Mig, last year. I know where there's 27 of them - supposed to be a certain nation's air force, but the one you have there seems to be in better nick.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    I have to admit it's a funny place to park a MIG.

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    One can only wonder at "seal services" ???

    My mother had one of those 59 Chev's, a four door, she paid a high-school kid $100 for it. It had a lot of miss-matched body parts (which turned out to be stolen) so we kids got to paint it in the driveway one sunny Saturday.......The good old days, as you say John........
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    While searching for a special photo I took for Rick and uploaded to a file on photobucket but have forgotten where ,I came across some more that he'll just love...






    Ricks pic is coming though , I'll find it.
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    That's my Matchbox E-Type! I wondered where it went!

    Okay, I have to admit I'd notice that thing crawling up my leg. But really, in the land of funnell webs, redbacks, scorpions and centipedes, those wetas would bring blessed relief!

    They are intimidating looking buggers though .......

    It would be great to throw a couple into an ABs scrum!


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    Paul G sent me that E type. sent it by mail........ E mail...bada boom.
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    I found something to park under on the weekend..


    Waitangi , fresh off her refit. Looks like they kept the glass.



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    Oooooh......aaaaaahhhhh!!!!!
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    The other big Classic Yacht Charitable trust boat Thelma was out recently too, so I found my park..







    The interesting thing about this boat compared to Waitangi, is the evolution in that critical 1890's period. I believe Thelma has 1898 on her rudder post, but she's actually quite conservative for that date. Lovely transitional bow, not a clipper, not a full spoon, but cut away forefoot and a bit beefier in her midsections.

    This is a really good boat, nicely balanced and quick .

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    "Old boats are like teenage girlfriends: there is a certain urgency to their needs & one neglects them at one's peril"


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    Certainly does look fast! I can't believe the length of that boom!

    Rick

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    i'd forgotten you finally came to your senses and embraced forced induction :P

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    If by 'embraced' you mean ' dragged kicking and screaming', then yes, I have tried to do the right thing. Ain't no fun though, its just a tool.

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    Realpolitik

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    Waitangi looks surprisingly like Rona to me.

    A good thing.

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