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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    Thanks for that Dave, always good to read articles like that.
    Indeed - as a former Jag owner (back when mere mortals could own a real Jag) & having worked on 'em - they get an undeserved bad rap.

    OK - Lucas electrics weren't the best - but that double overhead six was one of the best engines ever & the first car to produce 1 hp/cu. in - in 1949 IIRC.

    Love to see a story like that!

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    From the perspective of someone waiting 7 weeks..... crap. utter bull.Lies.
    JB, sorry for your troubles but this comment did make me laugh. It reminded me of a letter to the editor I read in a magazine after Ellen Macarthur zipped around the world in her trimaran. The letter said something like `how is it that B & Q (who apparently make flat-pack kitchens or something) can get Ellen Macarthur around the world in 75 days but can't get one of their kitchens to my house in less than 3 months when I just live up the road from their factory?' Rick

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    Yeah I need a laugh myself, thats a good one.

    Its pretty bad for us though.Like losing sleep and health bad.

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    What's the story JB? You can't use the boat while you wait for parts or service? Seven weeks sounds pretty ridiculous whatever it is! How annoying! Rick

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    Its simple Rick, the Chas Bailey Jnr Appreciation Society has paid Perkins not to supply the part he needs. Eventually John will give up on Perkins, lift Riada out, and put Waione back into action. Once John has had sufficent use to realise that Waione really is the only boat to have, they'll let him have the bits for the Perkins so he can get rid of Riada.

    Or maybe I just dreamt that.

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    Ah, I see - it's a nice subtle Kiwi peer pressure thing! Thanks Daniel! It seems I've missed the Waione story though - why is she out of the water (I agree, what a lovely boat!)? Rick

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Ah, I see - it's a nice subtle Kiwi peer pressure thing! Thanks Daniel! It seems I've missed the Waione story though - why is she out of the water (I agree, what a lovely boat!)? Rick
    John had kids, kids grew bigger, Waione didn't grow, so bigger boat was bought. Running two boats wasn't in the budget, so Waione is out of the water and out of action. I still think selling the kids would have been a better option (I hope John's kids don't read this).

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    Thanks Daniel! Sounds like territory to keep my big nose right out of - hope you guys relent though and let him get his Perkins parts. Sounds like Waione will hit the waves again sometime! Rick

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    Yea, we didn't get'em until 2004 ... but my 2009 is FOUR-doors ... 6.2 V8 also!
    Nothing else matters but how I raise my children ... and their opinion of me, as a father.

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    Interesting Brad.. different spec from the cars here. The Holdens are all 6.0 motors.. you have to buy the spec'd up HSV model to get the 6.2
    I like the Sportwagon I must admit. Got a bit of a Nomad look to it despite the 4 doors etc.




    latest update on the boat turbo just in by email.

    it was never sent .7 weeks and they never even sent it.Not by seafreight ( as I was told unit #1 was) not by DHL( as I was told unit #2 was/ would be)

    Not at all. nothing nada zip , haven't done it. Don't buy a Perkins motor . Don't buy a boat with a Perkins motor. They're unfamiliar with truth and they'll let you down.

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    I had the best opportunity.....a Very wealthy gentleman in Saudi made a very, very substantial offer for number 1 daughter.....6 feet tall, long red hair, good looking sexy woman......I was sorely tempted.....she came to tea with me one day, and the Sheik asked me if I had considered his offer......and I remarked that the "fee" that we were discussing was a bit low.....Sonja got involved...stuck her 2 cents in it and really didn't know what we were talking about....but she was using the sheiks logic, obviously I had something that I wasn't using, that he felt that he could use quite regularly and he was offering a very substantial price......so she was bugging me to see if I wanted more money, and with my guest to see if he was willing to add more money to the pot...we negotiated back and forth for over an hour.....never cracking a smile at any time, never letting her know that we were negotiating her sale.....finally, we reached an agreement, the sheik brought out what was to be over $100,000 in gold. He offerred it, I acceppted it, he handed me the gold and I reached over and took Sonja's hand and handed her over to the sheik.....she freaked out.....what the hell is going on here? she yelled....I said the sheik made an offer for you, and we have been discussing price, we have finally agreed on the price...so he gets you and I get the gold. "Are you two poeple out of your gawdamn minds? You can't sell me!
    Au Contraire.....You can, in this country.....and remember, you helped negotiate the terms for the transfer of goods.......
    It took a while to calm her down that it was only a joke that we hatched up....but it was a good one.
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    Don't buy a Perkins motor . Don't buy a boat with a Perkins motor. They're unfamiliar with truth and they'll let you down.
    That's all I need to hear and I'm happy to spread the word. I really hate bad, especially dishonest, service. I don't care what the quality of the product might be, if that's the kind of service they offer, they'll never get my business. Sorry to hear it JB - what's the next step? Rick

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    Yeah thats really bad John, despite my ribbing, i hope you get your parts soonest.
    Daniel

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    I did what I could have done 5 weeks ago had I known they were leading me on, take the old one back to the turbo guy and an engineer to machine out the broken studs . He'll rekit it and balance it best as can be done ,and give it back to me no warranty.
    It'll cost about $800 for a stopgap measure and I'll have to nurse it.

    As to the replacement new unit, who would know. The local Perkins agent can't tell me anything.

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    I guess you couldn't modify the thing to run without the turbo?

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    I'm advised not Paul.( one of my first questions) The fuel metering/ calibration in the pump would be severely wrong and could lead to over fueling and risk a hydraulic lock.or self destruct.

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    Have you tried the US people? There are a LOT of Perkins or Westebeke clones in US boats.

    http://www.tadiesels.com/index.htm

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    Your Perkins comments noted John .
    '' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
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    Thanks Paul. I'll look through.. I'm getting the impression my motor might be a bit of an orphan though.

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    This is the other site the SA guys recommend

    http://www.foleyengines.com/Home.aspx

    I am taking a long term sniff around the US market, a lot of the boats I am interested have Perkins 108's, so that is good advice.

    New Yanmars, yum yum.

    I am surprised your boat needs such a big motor BTW. What is the displacement? The hull sure looks slippery.
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    Alfa is in the water now . We ran around in the stripper for a couple of hours yesterday, dropped in at the Viaduct basin for a chat with Johnny G ( Iorangi).





    I don't know which # Alfa she is .. next to newest anyway.
    She was to the forefront of my mind with the tragic news of the loss of life along with an earlier Alfa / Shockwave over the weekend in NSW .

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    John B- Most here have the 6.0 also ... the 6.2 IS the spec'd up motor!

    It's called a G8 GXP in the states. But they come from Australia.

    Nothing else matters but how I raise my children ... and their opinion of me, as a father.

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    article on Alfa here for those that are interested.

    http://crew.org.nz/stories/alfaromeo/

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    We ran around in the stripper for a couple of hours yesterday...
    I didn't realise she is that big

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    yep, thats my Holden. Most would call it a large car here.


    Currently leading the Sydney Hobart

    http://rolexsydneyhobart.com/yacht_tracker.asp?key=522

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    Currently leading the Sydney Hobart
    Surely due in large part to the good luck charm you so graciously parked under her briefly. Upon their win you should insist on a Rolex.
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    To heck with the watch, I'm a goin for the Brera.

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    Danged if I know what I did with my thread on this boat .
    reconstructed here anyway.
    This is the Orma 60 tri that arrived here late 09




    and a couple of shots of it sailing one friday night a month or so ago.
    Amazing boat.



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    And the reason for finding the thread.. I found something else to park under.


    looks like an open 60

    plus one I couldn't park under due to people etc
    The 1895?( I forget.. 1894 or 95.) Logan Moana.



    She's a gorgeous thing and is a 1930's time capsule. She was modernised then with her very light weight Marconi rig and at the same time had her topsides raised about 8 or 10 inches to give her some freeboard. Up to now she's never had a motor but I hear she may be getting one . Moana is about 48 ft long, maybe 9ft wide and about 7' or so deep . perhaps deeper. She sails like a witch .
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    Hmm, I'm in love with Moana already - how beautiful! Thanks JB! Rick

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    These boats are really just very expensive windsurfers. I wouldn't call them yachts.
    The definition of stupid has got to be the belief that more guns will negate the bloodshed done with guns.

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    I shared yard space with her at the Devonport Yacht Club 3 years ago, owned by my doctor & his brother/s (I think). Forget the exact details but been in his family for a long time eg 40+ years.
    John you are right about the addition of a motor but no sign of a prop yet.

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    Hey Snow
    Maybe you and the doctor could go halves in paint next time! Rick

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    Originally Posted by John B
    The 1895?( I forget.. 1894 or 95.) Logan Moana.
    Moana, back in the day.


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    I've raced against Moana off and on since the early '80's. I think the Smiths took her over in the mid to late 70's IIRC. I've sailed on her too, she's lovely.

    This is a photo I took of her sailing with everything up in about 2001 or so.


    and a bit of an idea of deck layout from a cruising weekend.





    You can see the shadow line of the 1930 modification where her deck was lifted ' lock stock and barrell' and 6 or 8 inches added into her freeboard.

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