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    Hi Chris, yes that's our tiller in post 544. She was tiller when launched in '75 and for the first year or few while still owned by the Donald bros.
    When they sold her the new owner wanted wheel so that was fitted. Because of the configuration , transom rudder etc, it was hydraulic. Fast forward to 2005 or 6 and the man I bought it off removed the wheel and made that new tiller ,to the delight of Graham Donald and Laurie Davidson.( so I'm told).
    So now we have a T shaped cockpit which suits a wheel, and little locker space along with a giant cockpit . I'm putting that locker box in for stuff.
    A lot of people here know the boat, I get several a year commenting on how she was their dream ship. I think she was the first big prestige yacht for Laurie Davidson, I certainly have met people who have commissioned boats because of her anyway.

    Quite biggish at 45 ft (and say 13 or 14 odd tonnes )for a tiller eh... but its not an issue ,... in fact I've made a shorter cruising tiller and more often than not end up sailing her with that anyway.
    I have that race page from Sea spray somewhere and various good ole mates like to relate Fiji race stories about Riada every time I see them. lots of rum involved in one of them.

    some light reading if you're interested...





    Haven't sailed her for a month , hopefully off out tomorrow night for a reach up to Kawau.
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    Friday : Northerly 15 knots rising to 20 knots in the morning and to 25 knots gusting 35 knots in the afternoon. Changing westerly 15 knots late evening. Sea becoming rough in the afternoon, easing late evening. Poor visibility in rain developing in the morning, easing late afternoon.

    Outlook

    Saturday : Westerly 10 knots, rising to northwest 15 knots. Fine breaks.
    Sunday : Northwest rising to 25 knots but 20 knots about the Harbours, becoming westerly 25 knots everywhere late. A few showers developing.


    For going North.....Might need to re arrange the strategy a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris249 View Post
    Any love for early IOR boats or late RORC boats (as in Rainbow's case) is DEFINITELY warranted. In fact I'd extend the love all the way through to the mid '80s, at least, to boats like the Farr 40 design 136, Briand level raters, the Whitbread ketches, etc.
    I agree. I've put a few miles on a S&S Swan 47, a lovely boat (even lovelier when they put a carbon rig in). She was early IOR. That Kiwi chap, Bruce, designed some good boats, but produced some horror stories too.

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    Farr design 136.


    So funny, one of my best sailing mates is permanent crew on Pacific Sundance, and the man who tells the Riada Fiji race stories I referred to was, and he still supports them. Thats his name on the sail in fact. hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris249 View Post
    Any love for early IOR boats or late RORC boats (as in Rainbow's case) is DEFINITELY warranted. In fact I'd extend the love all the way through to the mid '80s, at least, to boats like the Farr 40 design 136, Briand level raters, the Whitbread ketches, etc.
    OK, I'd have to agree.
    My ambivalence is probably due to most of my IOR sailing being done in some wide-beam/skinny-arse half-tonners. When pushed a bit too far, and our ambitions exceeded our capabilities (often) we had some memorable broaches.
    But otherwise, a few harbour races on some two-tonners which i remember with happiness.

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    We had a very infamous luxury tax , usually called the boat tax , inflicted on us circa 1978. That one piece of legislation was the death knell for many boatbuilders here, 20 % on top overnight.
    So you see extraordinary wooden boats of terrific build quality almost as a matter of course up to that date. You still get great boats as prestige builds after and as some of the more well established guys carried on. Even the glass and then the composite boats are often really substantial scantlings by todays standards, if you can get past the pox.
    Often those wooden RORC, tonners, IOR boats are quite amazing construction. Hard to sell in todays market though , people want wide bums and walk through transoms, 2 heads and 3 cabins.
    As a counterpoint thjough , we're starting to see more badly built Euro boats failing structurally now. Stupid little grid/ hull liners with no proper keel bolts through anything except a slightly beefed hull thickness. Deck / hull poly glue joints letting go.

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boat...1206268072.htm
    This GRP yacht has suffered suspected separation of the hull liner from the hull, although to what extent is unknown.

    It is known that when the vessel is placed on the hard stand the hull immediately aft of the keel concaves by approximately 30 - 35mms.

    There are indications in the bilge area of previous repairs - some of which have now failed.

    It has been suggested that at least the entire hull liner through the centre of the saloon will require removal.

    The above does not purport to be the full extent of damage / failure.
    Honestly..... go to sea in that thing? Its just a commodity past its use by date.
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    Yep

    Rick

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    Hey, look what Paul Pless found for us https://www.flickr.com/photos/anmm_t...ns/8712549772/

    Rick

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    Nice!

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    Some old history emerging as I have a big workshop clean.

    oops ,WBF no longer accepting my phone uploads.
    photobucket no longer uploading either. sorry for the bump. edit.. perseverance pays off ,some new security check ...

    Looking for the tear drop marconi mast section for Tom's thread, I have the 6 or 7 ft I chopped off doing duty as a mezzanine post for my sisters Ford Y.
    Thats a pretty wee car , no wonder I took it off her when she left it in the rain.







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