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    Across of of maritime history, leading back away to the days of early Viking explorers, up until this new revolution in 'stealth' frigates and destroyers, what specific design and class of warship MOST gets your spirit of adventure on the high seas rolling?

    Sloops of the 18th century Royal Navy?
    A ship-of-the-line?
    The German U-Boat?
    Big American Battleships?
    The Carriers? (bleah)
    WW2-era British Destroyers?
    Patrol Torpedo boats of the South Pacific?

    theres so many... I know its hard to pick one.

    But if I could command any single ship or boat in history...


    But if I could pick just one...
    I'd pick a small armed sloop from the British Navy of 1800 or so.

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    I'm kind of partial to the early British coal-fired torpedo boats.

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    I'm not so sure I wouldn't want one of the small launches or lifeboats.

    A landing craft? An amphibious duck?
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    Trireme!! Pull until your eyes burst from their sockets!!
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    USS Nahant, Passaic-class. It was slow, even for it's day, but in the right environment highly effective:
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    Dunno.... maybe one of the British built CSS raiders... Shenandoah or Alabama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam F View Post
    USS Nahant, Passaic-class. It was slow, even for it's day, but in the right environment highly effective:
    Someone save this as evidence Mr F has more on his mind besides what he usually runs out the blather hose for.


    What, exactly, is that Passaic class all about? River monitors or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Dunno.... maybe one of the British built CSS raiders... Shenadoah or Alabama.
    Definitely:
    Shenandoah


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    This is along the lines of what I was thinking...

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    HMS Warrior. Made all other warships obsolete at a stroke.

    HMS Warrior
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    HMCS Vancouver. 29+ knots. Fun.
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    I am rather partial to the Insect Class river gunboats of the Royal Navy:





    The North Sea, the Danube, the Tigris and Euphrates in WW1, the Yangtse in the Twenties and Thirties, the Mediterrranean in WW2 - they certainly got about!

    But I suppose I will always go for this one; she really is rather special. Did you know she was due to be scrapped, on grounds of extreme old age (she was laid down in the Seven Years War) before Trafalgar, but was reprieved and rebuilt because she sailed better than other three deckers:


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    Alex goes for the Flower Class Corvettes of WW2, on the grounds that they won the Battle of the Atlantic:

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    They both raided freely and assigned to engage the enemy.

    Frigates of the Napoleonic era and US subs WW2 vintage.

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    I always thought the Iowa Class battleships were especially elegant looking.





    The ultimate capital battleships.


    I’ve also always been partial to the US Navy’s first frigates, including USS Constitution.






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    Tjeld/Nasty class MTB/PTF. Double mahogany planking on ash frames and oak keel. 2 x Napier Deltic diesel engines @ 3 100 hp pushed them along at 50+ knots.

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    Do Coast Guard vessels count?
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    ^^^I want one of those, Oyvind. In fact, lets just order two of them... theyre pretty small.

    ^^And yes, John Smith, anything but the Godspeed or the Susan Constant!
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    US Navy WWII destroyers.

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    What about those great naval vessels used for exploration?


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    Naval vessels used in exploration?

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    Alex goes for the Flower Class Corvettes of WW2,
    You would want a strong stomach, those things rolled their guts out in the North Atlantic.
    Me? I'd go for one of these or a Vosper MGB.


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    Alex's grandfather, who served on those, thought these were better in every way:



    He went to the lengths of sending Their Lordships a complete set of drawings for these, which he found at one of their bases, at Catania, in Sicily, when it was captured, but it made no difference!
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    Ah yes, the E-Boat aka Schnellboot -130. I've always like them.
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    I've always liked HMS Warrior. Brutally efficient, in the Victorian style.




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    Well, my first thoughts were HMS Warrior and/or any 32 gun 5th rate frigate from around 1800. However ,since those sorts of ships have been mentioned....

    Ancient, Viking Longship:


    Modern, Los Angeles class sub:

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    Soviet G5 PT boat. Apparently about as fast as the Schnellboots were.

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    I'll have to go with Wayne and the Iowa Class. I was Technical Director for the reactivation process in the 1980s and did NJ, IOWA and MO and just started the Wisconsin before I got transferred. Still have enough teak from what we replaced on deck of MO to build a coffee table if I ever get a ROUNDTUIT. Yes, I have a wooden one of those, just not enough time!

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    I always thought the Iowa Class battleships were especially elegant looking.





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    I’ve also always been partial to the US Navy’s first frigates, including USS Constitution.






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    I love that picture. The only time you'll ever see a ship leave a wake moving sideways!

    Extra credit trivia question: Name all six Iowa Class BB's.

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    Ok Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri, Wisconsin, Illinois, Kentucky. Google is your friend. Factoid: in the above pic, the ship (Iowa) is not being pushed sideways, the camera is showing the blast wave of the guns. An overhead pic, shows this clearly. I always thought it was being pushed by the recoil, until I saw the overhead shot.

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    The WWII plywood PT Boats.


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    Nah. This one has BIG guns


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    Nah. This one has BIG guns


    Yamato's main battery consisted of nine 18.1-inch 40 cm/45 Type 94 naval guns—the largest caliber of naval artillery ever fitted to a warship
    Were those 18" guns ever fired in anger ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Were those 18" guns ever fired in anger ?
    Yep - at Okinawa
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    I thought she was sunk by airstrikes and torpedos before she got to Okinawa .
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    I thought she was sunk by airstrikes and torpedos before she got to Okinawa .
    Correct - my error - she was sunk before she got there. She did actually open fire on some Japanese aircraft though!
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    Something more appropriate


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    Blondie Hasler and The Cockleshell Heroes ?
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    while I hold nothing more that pure respect for the pacifist philosophy, and feed the chickadees the finest sunflowers in the land, I put it to the man above me...
    you wont be able to capture many pieces - of - eight with that scrawny sea-kayak!

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    No, but with a few limpet mines you can cause mayhem in a habour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate-at-heart View Post
    while I hold nothing more that pure respect for the pacifist philosophy, and feed the chickadees the finest sunflowers in the land, I put it to the man above me...
    you wont be able to capture many pieces - of - eight with that scrawny sea-kayak!

    Arrr!
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    During the evening of 7 December 1942 the submarine HMS TUNA surfaced off the mouth of the Gironde, and launched 10 men in 5 canoes5. All was well until they reached tide races at the mouth of the river, where two canoes were lost. Canoeing by night, with the tide, and lying up by day, over several days, two pairs made it to the port (another pair's canoe was wrecked on an obstacle). One of the crews was Maj Hasler with Mne Bill Sparks, the other was Cpl Albert Laver and Mne Bill Mills. Limpet mines were placed on a number of ships, and these two crews then made their way down river, where they destroyed their canoes, and separately made their way cross country north east, through German occupied France, towards Ruffec, to make contact with the Resistance. After many hair raising incidents and much hardship, Hasler and Sparks succeeded in reaching this town, some 100 miles from where they left their canoes, and successfully linked up with the Resistance : they finally arrived home, after crossing the Pyrenees into neutral Spain, some 4 months after the raid. Laver and Mills were caught by the French police and handed over to the Germans: they were executed with 2 others, 3 months later.
    The raid was successful in that 5 ships were badly damaged6: perhaps more importantly the success was a much needed tonic for the British, for whom 1942 had been a disastrous year. There was a price to pay: 10 men set off; 2 escaped successfully, 2 were drowned, and 6 were caught or betrayed, and executed by the Germans. Maj Hasler was awarded the DSO, and Mne Sparks the DSM: Cpl Laver and Mne Mills received posthumous Mentions in Dispatches.

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    and how many pieces - of - eight did they capture?

    *yawn*

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    Well I guess it depends on the value you place on moral boosting?
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    How 'bout a privateer???


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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post

    Blondie Hasler and The Cockleshell Heroes ?
    Correct Gary.
    Brave guys indeed

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    yeah, I was just kidding around with you, WX. it looks like a fine little vessel and I'm sure that was a wonderful story from WW2.

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    OK, I'll come back for a second posting, with one that always gives me the goosebumps when I see her on Sydney Harbour



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    If you want wartime dash and daring do then read about the British MTB and MGB flotillas that worked around the Adriatic during WW2.
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