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  1. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    That ain't no bare-bones edit! Try this:

    The stranger rode into the valley.

    :)

    Tom
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    Re: Dems are going to win.

    With a Democratic governor, Wisconsin won't be appointing Paul Ryan to anything.

    Tom
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    But the right is against abortions, against sex ed, and against birth control. Hmm...

    Tom
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    Re: Patrick O'Brian is unreadable dreck

    If you're trying to read O'Brian as a nautical how-to manual for the age of square riggers, you are entirely missing the point of those books.

    Tom
  5. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    You're just flat wrong about that. You'll believe what you want to believe, apparently, but nothing I said misrepresented what you posted. Not intentionally, and not unintentionally.

    I can't react...
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    Re: Movies that have held up and those that don't

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhmKfpKM8bw&t=62s
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    Ah, the old "rephrasing" accusation. Except, I'd say my representation of what you said is not all that far off the mark:



    I "rephrased" it, I suppose, to suggest that I find your position on...
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    Evidence for that claim? What makes you think you know this?

    As for this:



    1. Can the divide be deepened? More importantly, so what if it is deepened? Morally, preventing gun deaths trumps...
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    What else is new? I think it's your sweeping characterization:



    that is "lame."

    Even lamer is your attempt to deny it by saying "No, no, it's only Oregon 114 I was talking about!"--and then...
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    What specific objections do you have to that law? I wasn't familiar with it, but Wikipedia says this:



    Do you think any of these regulations are unreasonable? If so, which ones? Why?

    Your...
  11. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Hmm... Did I misrepresent what you said? Here's the original exchange. First, Kevin:



    Then you:



    Sure sounds like you are saying that an author who uses 3rd person narration is not worth...
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    Interesting. "Pandering" and "ignorance"--those are the hallmarks of the New England Journal of Medicine, is it?



    Or maybe it's the CDC that is "ignorant"?



    Or maybe it's the American...
  13. Re: 8 Breakthroughs in Diabetes Research That Are Giving Us Hope

    In freelance writing, you get paid by the word. :)

    Tom
  14. Thread: 300

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    Re: 300

    THAT is what I was hoping for from this thread... :)

    Tom
  15. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Well, CW, I can see that you and I aren't going to agree on much about writing, eh?

    Are you seriously arguing that writers who use third-person narration are not worth reading?

    You might want...
  16. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Not stupid at all. The point Leonard is making with that rule is that a little goes a long way, and that it's easy to (WAY) over-do it when it comes to dialect. Just provide a tiny taste of it in...
  17. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Lots of movies, many of them bad ones.

    The weather bit may be a joke, but the other rules sure sound like Elmore Leonard-esque writing to me.

    Tom
  18. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Nope--"had his leather jacket stripped off" tells us virtually nothing in the way of detailed description. What kind of jacket? What color? How old? What style? How much metal hardware? What color?
    ...
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    Re: shark's eye view of things

    Lots of torso bend and head lifting from the center swimmer. I suppose anyone might look that way in a single-frame photo, though, even if their technique is excellent. He does appear to have nice...
  20. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    1. That opening breaks the rule about the weather, arguably (though it does a lot more story and character-related things than "It was a dark and stormy night"). Does it break others?

    2. I think...
  21. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    You have found the exception that proves the rule! :)

    Tom
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    Re: Photo a Day 365 X 12/2022Ö.

    Noon at 51 degrees north latitude:

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  23. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    1. Nabokov? Haven't read too much. Lolita didn't particularly draw me in.
    2. Melville? Hell, yeah.
    3. John Kennedy O'Toole? Never got past the first few pages of A Confederacy of Dunces. Great...
  24. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Show me a passage in which an author describes what a character's face looks like in great detail, aiming for a complete description rather than a couple of telling details, and I will be happy to...
  25. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Sure. But "writing in a way that makes a reader want to go from page two to page three" is a complex endeavor, made up of lots and lots of little behaviors all combined in different ways, for...
  26. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    There we have it. Speaking some capital-T Truth there.

    Tom
  27. Re: 8 Breakthroughs in Diabetes Research That Are Giving Us Hope

    Hmm... The "breakthroughs" are not all that inspiring to me. My dad was, and one sister is, diabetic. Along with at least 2 cousins. All Type 2 (which, tellingly, used to be called "Adult Onset...
  28. Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    His dialogue is especially strong. I agree with him about avoiding detailed descriptions of characters--a telling detail or two is enough. The age of trying to describe what a character's face looks...
  29. Thread: top this

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    Re: top this

    Well, that explains a lot! :)



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    All those Bernie-bashing threads make a lot more sense now...

    Tom
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    Re: Boat deacessioning

    Do they deliver to central Europe? :)

    Tom
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    Re: Masks: An informal unscientific survey.

    Very few colds, and very little flu, during Covid. That has more to do with sensible precautions and reduced interactions than it does with cleaning surfaces, I'd suspect.

    I've heard predictions...
  32. Re: You can lay the blame at the feet of the Baby Boomers.

    Hmm... My wife has been a Rotarian for a long time. It's a very-much white male dominated club, but (the white part, at least), that reflects the demographics of northern Wisconsin pretty well.
    ...
  33. Re: You can lay the blame at the feet of the Baby Boomers.

    Kind of like asking "Now that the car has gone off the cliff, and the driver has jumped out, who is to blame for the fact that the car is still plummeting toward the ground? :}

    Tom
  34. Re: You can lay the blame at the feet of the Baby Boomers.

    That's true, but... Meh. Votes ain't the whole story, not by a long shot. Somewhere there were statistics about how closely the actions of legislators match the desires and recommendations of the...
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    Re: Masks: An informal unscientific survey.

    I've probably seen <10 people wearing masks in Poland since I arrived in August. Not sure what the vaccination rates are like, but the effectiveness of wearing a mask is significantly reduced when so...
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    Re: Best Boat... For This Specific Scenario

    Thanks for the comments. I had a lot of fun writing that--it certainly seems to be a pretty good description of how things tend to go aboard my boats. :)



    And the comments about "miserable to...
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    Re: Best Boat... For This Specific Scenario

    Ah, yes, another inevitable truth about sailing: no one person's experience is indicative of the whole. And no way can sailing be as un-fun as my comments on this thread suggest, or none of us would...
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    Re: Solve This (If You Can)

    Who says you need to know that? :)

    Run some hypothetical outcomes of twodot's plan in your head, and you'll soon come to understand why he's correct.

    Tom
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    Re: Letters from Wrocław

    That's all too true... Going out for a walk to the river.

    Tom
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    Re: Solve This (If You Can)

    Yes. (I'm always amused when someone wants to weigh 6 against 6).



    Yes. But the resolution is not always obvious to everyone.



    Yes. In other words, you've narrowed it down to 1 in 8...
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    Re: Why does the the right hate Nancy Pelosi?

    I worry far more about regulatory capture than term limits for legislators, which are probably a bad idea as David G describes.

    Tom
  42. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    I agree with your take--I have a hard time picturing a winning outcome for Ukraine. Unless something drastically changes with Russia, or the rest of the world steps in to make some changes, which...
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    Re: Best Boat... For This Specific Scenario

    I only did it once... :)

    Tom
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    Re: A random set of near home pictures

    Toruń? I'll look it up; thanks.

    Right now I'm finishing my final research project for my masters degree, along with teaching a brand-new (to me) curriculum, and finishing some professional...
  45. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    In case you care, here are some of the ways you continue to bring the much-deserved label of "full on A hole BS":



    Well, no. That last comment was a response to a question I raised, not a...
  46. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    Reading HR Davies' reply, I have to agree with you. Apologies to those who have followed this thread more closely and have been shaking their heads at my overly optimistic hopes for a civil...
  47. Thread: Ukraine

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    Yes, I think that actually applies to most posters here on the WBF. The hostility and personal attacks get old real fast. I didn't mean to accuse people of being unwilling to discuss their views when...
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    Re: Sail Area Differences

    ^^^ That's what I thought, too.

    Tom
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    Re: Best Boat... For This Specific Scenario

    John,

    your Ilur always reminds me how little length has to do with the usable size (volume) of a boat. Your 14' boat is far roomier than my 18' boat, which is ideal for a solo sailor, good with 2,...
  50. Re: It's the night before Gun Deer Hunting here in Wisconsin.

    Every deer I've taken, I've run down on foot until I could get close enough to use my #2 pencil. :)

    Tom
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