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  1. Thread: POLITICAL Memes

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    Re: POLITICAL Memes

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/bd/1b/1e/bd1b1e9b72751f2267ad5368768a87f3.jpg
  2. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    I think someone needed a sarcasm emoji.
  3. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    ;).
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    Re: January 6th Committee

    Maybe they will testify under oath. Right now, they are unwilling to even speak on the record.


    From Josh Marshall:
  5. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    So, you're back to quoting people who think NATO promised not to expand, even though your first source said there was no formal deal and Gorbachev says there was no such deal.

    The Ukraine war may...
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    Re: January 6th Committee

    Because his answer would be no, and he has acted on his beliefs.
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    Re: January 6th Committee

    :).
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    Re: January 6th Committee

    Same role John Dean played in Watergate, isn't it?
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    Re: January 6th Committee

    The desire to stay in power by illegal means wasn't rational. But it wasn't based on the delusion that he had actually won the election. It was based on his belief that he should be top dog, no...
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    I think he's well aware that he lost, and knew he was going to lose before the election. Yes, he has a clear-cut case of NPD, but it's not a matter of thinking he didn't lose, it's a matter of...
  11. Re: It's official - the Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade

    I shudder to think what Republicans would do with that.
  12. Thread: More Pushback

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    Re: More Pushback

    Why would anyone think the filibuster is sacrosanct, or even a good idea? It was never intended to exist, and the rule that made it possible was written by Aaron Burr shortly after he murdered...
  13. Re: It's official - the Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade

    The mainstream cast more votes than that, and is well represented here. If the 81,283,098 votes for Biden don't represent the mainstream, certainly the smaller group who voted for Trump were less...
  14. Re: It's official - the Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade

    The electoral college, combined with the 3/5 compromise, was designed to give the slave states an outsized influence on who was president in proportion to their voting population.
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    Re: January 6th Committee

    Nice to know he had the launch codes, ain't it?
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    Re: January 6th Committee

    The testimony I'm hearing right now is the most damning I've heard. The committee seems to have found its John Dean.
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    Re: My argument against the electoral college.

    The electoral college, combined with the 3/5 compromise, was designed to give slave states an outsized influence in proportion to the number of voters. It worked until the Civil War, then worked for...
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    Re: Uvalde mom warned not to tell her story

    Yeah, the cops continue to cover themselves in glory.
  19. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    Yes. The EU is not a military alliance, Unlike joining NATO, it does not commit anyone to defend Ukraine. Also, it would take at least a decade for Ukraine to join the EU.
  20. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    Good work on the pretextual and the delusional parts of Putin's justification. Not mentioned is that Ukraine was trying to become less corrupt and more democratic, which would have provided an...
  21. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    So, they've decided they will trust China to be their supplier? We know where that leads{

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAU7k8aXoAADqY5?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
  22. Thread: I know kung-fu

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    Re: I know kung-fu

    A useful definition of garbage is something that costs more to get rid of than anyone would pay for it. An 80p chicken is just on the non-garbage side of the line. If you can't sell something at a...
  23. Re: It's official - the Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade

    So, what's the solution? Spending the next 50 years trying to fix what the Republicans spent the last 50 years doing to the Court?
  24. Re: It's official - the Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade

    I suppose with more than 330 million people in this country, there must be someone who holds this opinion, but can you name any elected politicians who do?
  25. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    Turns out Ukraine really is finding it hard to get ammo in the old Soviet sizes:

    https://news.yahoo.com/putin-decade-long-secret-sabotage-152921901.html
  26. Re: It's official - the Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade

    We got here because there were so many one-issue voters opposed abortion, and they were motivated to go to the polls. It still took them 50 years to politicize the courts enough to make this happen....
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    Re: January 6th Committee

    Covid.
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    Re: This is just unacceptable

    When you're right, you're right. How did that guy get to be a lawyer, let alone a state supreme court justice? It must have been politics all the way.
  29. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    Turkey has long had some governance problems. Let's hope Ukraine can move into the community quicker. Hell, let's hope they succeed in continuing to exist as a country.
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    Re: This is just unacceptable

    You're being optimistic.
  31. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    I understand your hostility. You've made foolish statements and don't wish to defend them.

    Try being halfway civil.
  32. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    More straw men? I haven't said a defeat of the Russians would lead to global peace and prosperity, nor do I buy the notion that anyone else thinks that. I support the right to self determination of...
  33. Thread: Ukraine

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    So, you don't want to engage in a discussion, you just want to shout at people? How is that civil?

    And how civil is it to mischaracterize my position? Nothing I've said indicates I want to fight...
  34. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    hope he's alright.
  35. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    In a way, I think Chomsky and Putin have the same assumptions about democracy -- that it is always a sham, that people are always and everywhere manipulated.

    I have a stupidity theory of history....
  36. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    Except that the information he's posted checks out.

    You still haven't explained why America doing bad things in the past justifies Putin invading Ukraine. Have you read the Bucharest Memorandum...
  37. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    Gorbachev says the offer to Germany was never made, and I think ethnic Germans are pretty scarce in the territory. And the offer to Lithuania was made by Nikita Khrushchev, so way before the breakup....
  38. Thread: Ukraine

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    Why didn't they offer it to Poland?
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    Re: Defund The Police: some feedback

    Yeah, no way that's goi8ng to lead to corruption.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/highway-robbers-how-trip-buy-farmland-ended-police-taking-all-n1281629
  40. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    I agree with him mostly. In particular, the critique about Chomsky being American-centric. Sometimes he gives the rest of the world so little agency, it's like he thinks America is the Illuminati,...
  41. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    I think when Russia stopped being Communist and turned Fascist, he kept quoting Russian propaganda out of habit.
  42. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    So what? Doesn't everybody blame America for Iraq 2003 and Vietnam?

    Why can't you answer any of the points raised in response to your earlier post? Try this one:

    #3741:
  43. Thread: R2ak 2022

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    Re: R2ak 2022

    Fewer logs would be a blessing to them.
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    Re: January 6th Committee

    So, it wasn't just an angry amorphous mob that attacked the capitol, there was more command and control:



    In the '30s, we had the brownshirts. Now, given the right's response of people actually...
  45. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    Based on sandtown's past posts, he's an old-style Noam Chomsky type lefty. Chosmsy's 'blame America first' philosophy has, ironically, begun to sound a lot like Tucker Carson's approach to Ukraine....
  46. Thread: Ukraine

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    Another straw man? No one has made the claim you're attacking. I posted a direct response to what your first link said, and you have not responded to any of the issues I've raised. Instead, you go on...
  47. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    I've read the article by Prof. Joshua R. Itzkowitz Shifrinson. I'm not sure why he thinks we should act as if there was an agreement that was broken, when he says, "No formal deal was struck."

    He...
  48. Re: Hate and Hatred on the forum: Songs for our trolls

    In honor of those long, long threads that result from people hating each other:


    https://youtu.be/irDtV3nfBQw
  49. Thread: Ukraine

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    Re: Ukraine

    The issue wasn't NATO in 2014, it was the Maidan movement, in which Ukrainians rejected closer ties to Russia and expressed a wish for closer cooperation with the EU. The threat to Russia has never...
  50. Thread: Ukraine

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    If you are ignorant of this history, it's your own fault. I've given you the names of the most relevant agreements, the least you could do is read the Wikipedia entries.

    And I don't see why you're...
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