It would be almost impossible to pull a vacuum against a lap strake hull. The lamination will be contained within a vacuum bag. The whole set up will then be put into the hull and then the vacuum...
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It would be almost impossible to pull a vacuum against a lap strake hull. The lamination will be contained within a vacuum bag. The whole set up will then be put into the hull and then the vacuum...
Jim,
You are probably right regarding a flat form and I probably would use clamps if I were building a boat from scratch and had the ability to clamp up laminations on a flat form like I used in...
Peter,It went pretty well. The only issue I ran in to is that my vacuum bag was a little too small. When I did my calculations I did not account enough for the additional layers of bleeder membrane...
Today I ran a scaled test at my plan to vacuum laminate new frames in to the Lyman. Since this is a more technical and more expensive process than steam bending I figured I should run a test before...
Thanks Peter,
I just finished getting all the requisite materials together for the vacuum lamination so hopefully I will have something that looks like progress soon.
-Mike
Peter,
you are correct, the pin knots are what caused the problem, the funny thing is I have never seen them in White Oak before, at least not in such a quantity as my most recent stock. The...
I have considered going to a mill, the only problem is the closest mills to me are about an hour or more south from my home, and my boat shop is an hour northwest. The supplier I get my lumber from...
Several days ago I finally got a chance at a trial run for steaming in new frames. Unfortunately it did not go so well for a variety of reasons. The first issue is with the overhead clearance in...
Pismo: On top of the oak will be a band of 3/8" teak finished off with a stainless half oval rub strip.
Jeffrey: Thanks for the tip, I will check them out when it comes time for new blades.
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The white oak rub rails are now on the boat. The tee nuts and machine screws made the job a lot easier then If I had followed the original method which was wood screws run from the inside of the...
Soundman,
I first used a tool I made to set all the Tee nuts in the drilled holes. Then I drew in the run rail with clamps and ran the screws in. I had no trouble with cross threading at all,...
Steve,
I am glad you are enjoying the thread. It would have been interesting to see the Lyman factory when they were still making boats. It's still standing in Sandusky but it has been turned...
Today I got the rough stock for the new rub rails milled to final dimensions with the proper bevel on the surface that mates with the hull. In order to do that I made a jig that attached to the...
I have finally finished with all of the planking that is going to be done for now. Yesterday I milled up some stock which will become new rub rails. I will install these to add some rigidity to the...
As of yesterday the port side of the boat has gotten all of the planking its going to get until after new frames are bent in. I am leaving out the garboard and the plank underneath the outboard...
Hi, you can check a few of my threads for an idea what you can do to repair your skiff craft. This first one is a pretty thorough thread on replacing steam bent frames in a lapstrake boat.
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I was out at the shop working on more bottom planking today, I was able to get another 16' run of planking removed, copied, fit, and mounted back to the boat. If I can keep up this pace I should be...
Like Dave said, you will need some sort of mechanical fastener to draw the planks together for the 5200 to be effective anyway so you might as well leave them in. I would go with 10-24 bronze...
Actually 5200 is an acceptable method of repairing or rebuilding hulls in Lyman or other lapstrake ply hulls. In fact all Lyman boats produced after 1967 came from the factory with Thiokol , a 5200...
Dave,
From what I can tell from the pictures that nbnoat looks just fine and reasonably well maintained. It could use some cosmetic work, but so does pretty much any used boat including...
I just noticed the trailer, if you get the boat you should rig up some means of supporting the bow just under the knee. Until you can get a proper support attached to the trailer you can beat a...
The stem, knee and keel all look fine. That triangular piece you see at the knee is just part of a much larger structure seen here, I have drawn lines over the joints to better illustrate the...
It would be closer to the drill press than the outboard. I got the new transom for my 35' Lyman from Tom and I thought the price was very reasonable. He may already have one at his shop ready to...
I thought I would share an update on a side project I have been working on for the boat. In the cabin, all of the cabinets have nice solid teak frames, but the main panels that make everything up is...
Peter,
I looked again, you may be right the windows in the front do look much more like the 30'. I thought maybe it was the 32' and the front cabin windows had been changed. I guess we will have...
Things are going well, I am starting to work on the long runs of planking below the waterline. I have scarphed two lengths of Meranti ply together to form 16' long planking stock. They are a little...
Rob,
Check around for your hull number, I did some research and from the few pictures you have posted I believe your boat is a model simply referred to as the 32' Cruiser 6 Sleeper. If it is, in...
Today at the shop I was distracted for a little while at the beginning of the day by the other Lyman which required a new distributor. The last time I had it out the engine started to sound as if it...
That's a good looking boat, good luck with the project!
-Mike
Thanks! Thats what I keep telling myself.
Sound out the transom with a mallet or pick. Most of the hull looks good to me. The transom may looks worse than it is because of some filler and paint. With it stripped too wood you could tell a...
It is indeed time for an update. The framing for the aft and side decks are now finished and permanently in place. I have also finished sealing the inside of the transom with CPES and replacing...
Where approximately in Cleveland are you located? That boat looks an awful lot like one I saw in a front lawn down the street from me. If the boat appears to not have lost its hull shape I would...
Good luck with the project, looking forward to seeing some pictures!
-Mike
I would not recommend Dolfinite for that application. Dolfinite is a bedding compound made for bedding hardware or in some cases bedding timbers. Is the transom going to be finished bright, or will...
Work has been continuing on the project, I haven't posted an update in quite a while because it has mostly been more of the same type of work. All planks are replaced in the stern down to the...
I would try to avoid epoxy and filler as much as possible. I am finishing replacing almost the entire stern of my boat because of damage propagated by the use of epoxy and filler for repairs where a...
When I was first planning the replacement of about a third of the steam bent frames I saw this product and thought the same thing. I ordered a sample and bent it around a form I had created to...
Bruce,
I suppose it can work either way as long as proper support is provided. I have seen too often, including on my own boat, a hooked keel caused by a yard blocking the boat like it were...
Bart,
I found this on Loadmaster's website, it is a gallery of trailers they have made for wood boats. Have a look and you will get an idea what I am talking about.
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No offense to Wizbang, but the weight of a Lyman should ABSOLUTELY NOT be supported on the keel. The trailer for my 24' Lyman was made by Loadmaster in Port Clinton, OH they specialize in Lyman...
Thanks for the comments. It will be a little bit before I have anything new to report, right now I am involved with the tedious task of getting all of the planks trimmed to final length and getting...
Lee valley makes an excellent compression strap with an adjustable end stop so it can be re used and adjusted for different lengths of stock.
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Steve,
Sorry I didnt cime in on this sooner, the title of the thread is a little cryptic and it took a while for me to decide to take a look. First, the fastenings look fairly normal for a...
Libations were most definitely had by all at the end of the day. The funny thing is, before I left the shop I sat in worried silence for quite some time convinced that I must have screwed something...
Thanks, it sure does make it look a little more like a boat and a little less like a project.
-Mike
I am guessing that this is of plywood lapstrake construction, some pictures and more details would help quite a bit. To answer your first question, it depends on how thick the bottom paint currently...
Today the new transom finally found its permanent home in the stern of my project boat. Getting it in was a two-day process, the first day was spent getting the new transom rigged up on the lift,...
Bart,
I read their literature on the website. They state that it acts only on the seals and gaskets to expand them back to their original thickness. When gaskets and seals start to leak it is...
Also, I would avoid the stop leak in a bottle something about that doesnt sound right.