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    Re: Movies that have held up and those that don't

    How does the WBF feel about Deliverance?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDlZLsJJkVA

    I think it holds up really well. I probably need to read more James Dickey.

    Tom
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    Re: Movies that have held up and those that don't

    Oh, yeah. Memento is quite a film. I need to watch that again. Just... Wow.

    Tom
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    Re: Standing or Balanced or neither

    I very much doubt you need a line like that to get around 50 degrees easily. I forget how the foils (board and rudder) are in your boat? Maybe it's a foil issue?

    How much tension is on your...
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    Re: as seen in the az high desert

    Hmm... They aimed for Mars, and hit Arizona? Unimpressive. :)

    Tom
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    Re: Ukraine

    Well, "we" tried again last January. "We" ought to get some credit for the attempt, at least. :)

    Tom
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    Re: Movies that have held up and those that don't

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Oby5CJROo

    Jack Burton. 'Nuff said. :)

    Tom
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    I'd say that's about right. :)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtTR-_Klcq8
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    As I said, I can read a dictionary. And understand it. No need for a backrest to "sit, lean, or fall heavily and limply." :)

    (You're not very good at this--maybe you should quit before you get...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Clumsy. I'd say "incorrect" but I'm not really a prescriptivist. That said, any prescriptivist would tell you that this is a run-on. Two independent clauses joined together without the standard...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Nope. But I can read a dictionary, and understand it.



    Tom
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Yes.



    Agreed.



    Well, no. Just: no. A comma is most definitely NOT "shorthand" for 'and'." Commas imply rhythm. They steer the reader toward hearing the line the way the writer wants it to...
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    Re: Lug & Sprit Questions

    Novice,

    just so you know, Todd Bradshaw is one of the most (if not THE most) knowledgeable posters on the WBF when it comes to sails and rigs. I don't think his reply was at all an attack on you;...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    This is really good; I can see why it found a home in a good journal!



    But... :)



    "my forearms weeping, black, and split"
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    Re: Lug & Sprit Questions

    The yard on my rig (a boomless standing lug) definitely bends, by design. A good sailmaker will account for the bend of the yard when shaping the sail. Mine had me do a simple test to measure how...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Plenty of good writers alive today. I doubt they'll all be dead in 10 years...

    Tom
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    Re: Photo a Day 365 X 12/2022Ö.

    A couple of shots from tonight's walk home. One of my favorite murals (lots of cool murals in Wrocław):

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    And the campus of the University of Wrocław, on the south bank of the Oder River:...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    PM me and I'll give you the address so you can send the check ASAP! :)

    Tom
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Different aesthetics, not necessarily "better" or "worse" ones. I tend to like the terse, explain-as-little-as-possible, though I can't claim my own writing shows much influence in that direction.
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    That ain't no bare-bones edit! Try this:

    The stranger rode into the valley.

    :)

    Tom
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    Re: Dems are going to win.

    With a Democratic governor, Wisconsin won't be appointing Paul Ryan to anything.

    Tom
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    But the right is against abortions, against sex ed, and against birth control. Hmm...

    Tom
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    Re: Patrick O'Brian is unreadable dreck

    If you're trying to read O'Brian as a nautical how-to manual for the age of square riggers, you are entirely missing the point of those books.

    Tom
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    You're just flat wrong about that. You'll believe what you want to believe, apparently, but nothing I said misrepresented what you posted. Not intentionally, and not unintentionally.

    I can't react...
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    Re: Movies that have held up and those that don't

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhmKfpKM8bw&t=62s
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    Ah, the old "rephrasing" accusation. Except, I'd say my representation of what you said is not all that far off the mark:



    I "rephrased" it, I suppose, to suggest that I find your position on...
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    Evidence for that claim? What makes you think you know this?

    As for this:



    1. Can the divide be deepened? More importantly, so what if it is deepened? Morally, preventing gun deaths trumps...
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    What else is new? I think it's your sweeping characterization:



    that is "lame."

    Even lamer is your attempt to deny it by saying "No, no, it's only Oregon 114 I was talking about!"--and then...
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    What specific objections do you have to that law? I wasn't familiar with it, but Wikipedia says this:



    Do you think any of these regulations are unreasonable? If so, which ones? Why?

    Your...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Hmm... Did I misrepresent what you said? Here's the original exchange. First, Kevin:



    Then you:



    Sure sounds like you are saying that an author who uses 3rd person narration is not worth...
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    Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    Interesting. "Pandering" and "ignorance"--those are the hallmarks of the New England Journal of Medicine, is it?



    Or maybe it's the CDC that is "ignorant"?



    Or maybe it's the American...
  31. Re: 8 Breakthroughs in Diabetes Research That Are Giving Us Hope

    In freelance writing, you get paid by the word. :)

    Tom
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    Re: 300

    THAT is what I was hoping for from this thread... :)

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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Well, CW, I can see that you and I aren't going to agree on much about writing, eh?

    Are you seriously arguing that writers who use third-person narration are not worth reading?

    You might want...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Not stupid at all. The point Leonard is making with that rule is that a little goes a long way, and that it's easy to (WAY) over-do it when it comes to dialect. Just provide a tiny taste of it in...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Lots of movies, many of them bad ones.

    The weather bit may be a joke, but the other rules sure sound like Elmore Leonard-esque writing to me.

    Tom
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Nope--"had his leather jacket stripped off" tells us virtually nothing in the way of detailed description. What kind of jacket? What color? How old? What style? How much metal hardware? What color?
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    Re: shark's eye view of things

    Lots of torso bend and head lifting from the center swimmer. I suppose anyone might look that way in a single-frame photo, though, even if their technique is excellent. He does appear to have nice...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    1. That opening breaks the rule about the weather, arguably (though it does a lot more story and character-related things than "It was a dark and stormy night"). Does it break others?

    2. I think...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    You have found the exception that proves the rule! :)

    Tom
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    Re: Photo a Day 365 X 12/2022Ö.

    Noon at 51 degrees north latitude:

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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    1. Nabokov? Haven't read too much. Lolita didn't particularly draw me in.
    2. Melville? Hell, yeah.
    3. John Kennedy O'Toole? Never got past the first few pages of A Confederacy of Dunces. Great...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Show me a passage in which an author describes what a character's face looks like in great detail, aiming for a complete description rather than a couple of telling details, and I will be happy to...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    Sure. But "writing in a way that makes a reader want to go from page two to page three" is a complex endeavor, made up of lots and lots of little behaviors all combined in different ways, for...
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    Re: Ukraine

    There we have it. Speaking some capital-T Truth there.

    Tom
  45. Re: 8 Breakthroughs in Diabetes Research That Are Giving Us Hope

    Hmm... The "breakthroughs" are not all that inspiring to me. My dad was, and one sister is, diabetic. Along with at least 2 cousins. All Type 2 (which, tellingly, used to be called "Adult Onset...
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    Re: Elmore Leonardís 10 Rules For Novel Writing

    His dialogue is especially strong. I agree with him about avoiding detailed descriptions of characters--a telling detail or two is enough. The age of trying to describe what a character's face looks...
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    Re: top this

    Well, that explains a lot! :)



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    All those Bernie-bashing threads make a lot more sense now...

    Tom
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    Re: Boat deacessioning

    Do they deliver to central Europe? :)

    Tom
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    Re: Masks: An informal unscientific survey.

    Very few colds, and very little flu, during Covid. That has more to do with sensible precautions and reduced interactions than it does with cleaning surfaces, I'd suspect.

    I've heard predictions...
  50. Re: You can lay the blame at the feet of the Baby Boomers.

    Hmm... My wife has been a Rotarian for a long time. It's a very-much white male dominated club, but (the white part, at least), that reflects the demographics of northern Wisconsin pretty well.
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