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  1. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    so to be clear, and to all those who are arguing that it was overreach for the FBI to execute a search warrant on Aug 8 ... that they ought to have used a subpoena process instead ...

    There was a...
  2. Thread: Mar a Largo

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  3. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    And right on cue ...

    Imagine. High ranking Republicans accusing the FBI of planting evidence, politicization etc. being amplified for a couple of days now by RW media sources, and it's turned...
  4. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    100% agree, Lee. It's astonishing to see the Trumpists alienating a natural Republican constituency.

    But please, don't let me interrupt anything...
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    Re: Happy Heavenly Birthday to Glen Longino…

    Tune up the pub for us; we'll all get there eventually.
  6. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    Re: Really bad Joke of the Day

    He had every right, eh?
  8. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    I like the memes and Twitter comments suggesting it's Melania. Or Dark Baron.

    Prompted by the realization that he wants to bury them in shallow graves on a New Jersey golf course.
  9. Thread: I’ve plateaued

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    Re: I’ve plateaued

    Think of yourself as a rice paddy in training.
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    Re: Trump Takes The Fifth.

    Ivanka and Jared did not take the 5th when they went in for their depositions. Just saying.
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    Re: Trump Takes The Fifth.

    A very big man, a burly man with tears in his eyes, said "Sir. That's the bigliest 5th ever seen. Like nobody's seen before."
  12. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-informer-told-fbi-what-docs-trump-was-hiding-where-1732283

    Newsweek article, based on 2 confidential government sources, on the intent, approval processes, and...
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    Re: Happy birthday to Ian McColgin…

    Happy B-day, Ian. Lots of thoughts sent your way from my spot on the continent.
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    Re: Benedict Arnold; Hero Betrayed

    I walk past a house on my way to church where Benedict Arnold apparently came at least once and stayed as a guest. Fredericton was a British garrison town at the time.
  15. Thread: Trump is Toast

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    I believe that the relevant NY statutes say that while one can certainly plead the 5th in civil cases, that (unlike in criminal cases) the court/jury can treat it as a "negative inference." That is,...
  16. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    As I posted over on the "Toast" thread, Trump pleaded the 5th today in that deposition, despite his 2016 statement that "only the mob pleads the fifth."
  17. Thread: Trump is Toast

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  18. Thread: Trump is Toast

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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZzkHtzXEAA2P9T?format=jpg&name=small
  19. Thread: Trump is Toast

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  20. Thread: covid positive

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    Re: covid positive

    Prayers up, my friend.
  21. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    Getting harder and harder to be a treasonous b@stard and walk free. What's America coming to?
  22. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    Huh. Those FBI agents would have needed a warrant too, signed by a federal judge.

    Did Perry give any speculation why they'd have agreed there was probable cause? Did he, maybe, release the draft...
  23. Thread: Trump is Toast

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    Re: Trump is Toast

    Woody, virtually every J6 witness is a hand-picked Trump high ranking aide. The ones who aren't are the hand-picked aides of those aides. Or people who have spent decades in Republican senior...
  24. Thread: Trump is Toast

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    With his zombie base, or with folks with functional neurons?

    There's no debate in the neurally intact fact-based community. Nor even among his own senior West Wing people who've to a degree...
  25. Re: Do you think there’s another Tim McVeigh out there?

    Sure there is. And a whole lot of lesser whacko types who populate the various militias. Consider all the mooks who stormed various state legislatures while displaying their right to bear arms.
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    Re: Trump and Hitler's generals

    That's what the former guy attempted, of course. Famously, with FBI directors. And Attorney Generals.
  27. Thread: Cargo pants

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    What Rob says. There's a reason he's EfL.
  28. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    Re: Mar a Largo

    Rubio. There's another guy who's determined that it's acceptable to go through life as a decaying jellyfish.
  29. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    I don't understand McCarthy at all. Why would one want to embrace a plateaued career as a sub-lieutenant in the Nazis? All the personal risk, with none of the benefits of actually holding power...
  30. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    And they're hoping to God that their own names aren't anywhere on the documents the FBI retrieved, or the texts recovered from Alex Jones' cellphone.
  31. Thread: Milley

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    Re: Milley

    According to Glasser's article, he was mortified, and considered it an enormous failure on his part. Milley had realized as they walked out the door that he was being used, and actually peeled off...
  32. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    I understand your point, but disagree.

    Yes, Trumpists will go nuts. But the DoJ's best protection against some argument at trial that they'd prejudiced a jury is to not make any statements...
  33. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    Some of the documents originally taken to Mar a Lago were apparently at the very highest levels of classification - such that the National Archives couldn't even publicly name the documents in their...
  34. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    While noting the occasional obvious exceptions (e.g. Giuliani), various commentators observe that the vast majority of people who have this kind of search warrant executed on them get criminally...
  35. Thread: Milley

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    This story in the New Yorker by Susan Glasser and Peter Baker goes into that question in remarkable depth. It's an excerpt from a book they're writing, but which they released now, before the book...
  36. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    FBI apparently informed the Secret Service that they were about to execute the search warrant, to ensure that there'd be no resistance. There was none, so I'd heard reported, and the Secret Service...
  37. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    The FBI left a copy of the warrant, as they're required to do. It laid out the crimes the FBI believes had been committed, and itemized the specific evidence of those crimes which they had probable...
  38. Thread: Milley

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    I think there's a fascinating "coincidence" that this letter, from the present Chair of the Joint Chiefs suddenly was priorized for a book preview release immediately prior to the Mar a Lago search...
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    Re: Trump and Hitler's generals

    Maybe the Von Stauffenberg group will have better luck this time.
  40. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    Very hard to walk away from a cult. To admit you've been so suckered, for so long.
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    Apparently the Trumpish forums are at least as full of violent rhetoric tonight as just before Jan6.

    I find myself thinking that I now understand why, all of a sudden, Gen Milley's devastating...
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    Any evidence discovered executing the warrant can be lawfully used in the investigation of other crimes not mentioned in the search warrant too.

    The 15 boxes of documents seem to have provided...
  46. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    Reports now that the raid was in relation to the 15 boxes of documents taken.

    They broke into the safe looking for some of the stuff.
  47. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    White House was unaware till the news broke publicly. Referring all questions to the DoJ.

    As is 100% appropriate.

    Hella good week for Biden though .
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    Re: January 6th Committee

    Raid apparently began early this morning, and carried on throughout the day. Focused on the areas of Trump's personal office and personal residence.
  49. Thread: Mar a Largo

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    2 things. First, "probable cause" that evidence of a specific crime would be there was required. For damned sure, a Federal Judge would not have signed their name to search Trump's residence if the...
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    Re: Cat converter theft protection

    If you think cats can be converted, you haven't tried.
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