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Suffice it to say the MRW does not and will not have external chines! The lower chine (and mid) is a stitch-and-tape joint glassed inside and out and the upper most chine is glued-lapstrake. Chine...

That's a bit much! It's a really great boat, don't get me wrong. Boats have their strengths, some more than others. Having rowed a couple, I can say the GG has lots of strengths for many waters. But...

Garry,

If I understand correctly, you desire to design your own boat? You have an actual 3D surfaced model of the boat? The software should have a feature that allows you to "unroll" 3D surfaces...

Also looking forward to the thread!

Yes the short slide would work. I have the boat down at 73 lbs with small anchor, oars and a bag of boat stuff. With my 225, we are at 298# thus the 300# displacement. Hull sides in 4mm ply, bottom...

Thanks FF....been so busy with other work but I got a chance to do some personal projects.

Today I optimized the displacement a bit on my MRW. She displaces exactly 300# now which should offer...

Thanks for coming guys. It was enjoyable for sure! And plan on it annually, probably the same week, date TBD.
https://i.ibb.co/Nn6Q2sx/IMG-4287-Moment.jpg...

For those close enough interested or without anything better to do - I always enjoy meeting forumites.

TONIGHT 5-7pm at CSC in Saco: 959 Portland Rd. Rt 1 - Google knows the way.

Parking may...

Imagine that!

Didn't seem disastrous

Hey Dave - yes there is a reallllly interesting story with regard to Phin and those boats. He ended up lofting widened versions and they were ugly, to my eye.

I want the book more for the design...

Thank you Frank - I think Peter Van Allen did a great job on the article, and Tom Jackson in editing.
It's always nice to get a little recognition when you are working hard!

Thanks!

Can anyone tell me if the 8th edition (1983) by Kinney contains the KINNEY DORY, a 12' dory he drew and writes about with a lines and construction plan. I want to say it is around page 83 or so in...

Haaa...yes I know that thread - I particiated for a while. Learned a lot.
True - I was able to hold my own in my Drake 17 agains a good AGB rower so I am hoping to get even better speeds with this...

Thanks for adding that history, Jon, and thank you for making your original lines available to us! And in reference to Overland's last post, I have already received inquires for this boat to be done...

I haven't read every word of this thread, but thought it was important to add that
Lugsails have one advantage in that the location of the CE can be adjusted by changing where the halyard ties off...

Nice work!

What we do at Chase SMall Craft is buy lead sheet/plate - can be bought up to 3/4" thick and let it into the centerboard. We just did this for a Stir-Ven 19 being built out in Cali. We vacuum pressed...

Very cool boat - always loved Stambaugh's stuff.

If I were in your shoes, I would do a driveway sail first. Practice full set up and hoist of the sail plan, practice the reefing system, and even...

People on the Forum love their CPES - use industry standard stuff, typically a low viscosity, non blush epoxy or West with special hardener.

Love this!

Thanks for thoughts and observations, Ben.
I did not think about the stems on the AGB helping to hoist her up on shoulders...makes a lot of sense. Jon A's MRW was 68 lbs bare hull built with 4mm...

Been thinking about windage a lot and also why the AGB's are so fast....and been modifying the river wherry to suit my current thinking. The underbody is somewhat similar to the AGB in the current...

Ben,
Nick's AGB model has a high Prismatic coefficient because he has set the DWL at 404# - like Flo-mo's numbers show, the GB's pick up volume in the ends when it is sunk and so Cp goes up. Most of...

Interesting Flo-mo - I just sent you a PM.
With the comparisons in both Hydros form and in 3D to overlay, it will make an interesting study.

Regarding Cp - it is tricky - if I were making a...

Nice! High aspect foils, enough deadrise to make for a seaworthy hull -were you looking at a CIY 16 at all by chance when drawing?

Well, Dryfeet build this other new design then! She is a 13.5' kayak that is a collaboration with David Wyman, NA. based in Castine.
https://i.ibb.co/SPq7NPL/Kayak-3-D-3.jpg

(skeg not shown on...

Dave-I think this link to G-maps will show it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9352967,-69.8882748,16.47z?hl=en&authuser=0

"Baybridge Landing Wetland Park"

Rob,
Even though it isn't the top objective, on account of being really light and a bit less than 4', then I would think car topping ought to be achievable for most...I'm thinking of places like a...

This is a great point by John - of course my smallest boat requires a 6'6" sleeping space! Perhaps that is why I like designs with a higher length to beam ratio! For really covering ground, it is my...

Tom - thx for the not to the CIY. OK... I got the drift better now - smallest boat possible - totally agree and it has to still do do the job...yeah the Drake 19 in expedition form with downwind...

Here is MRW #6
https://i.ibb.co/5s2LkYG/New-Boat.jpg

And the other basis for the new work, the Drake R.B 18
https://i.ibb.co/zFcddrd/IMG-20170910-161744676.jpg

The MRW is handsome, fast and...

I want to take my Calendar 18 design, bring it to 20-feet max, and get a cuddy cabin on there...cabins are hard to get right so they don't look goofy or get in the way. JW did a nice job on Long...

This talk about the bottom shape is fascinating because it's the point of the hull shape that I am most uncertain about...Jon has not commented about how his double ended (symmetric) MRW rowed but I...

David - at this point I am looking at the hydrostatics and making decisions based on those data to finalize hull form. It looks right so it probably is right.
These flat bottoms are tricky - they...

Thanks Rick - the Drake raceboat will work well...forget if you have the 18 or 20 but with a foredeck they will take care of you. This one I think will have decks on the ends made from 3mm ply coming...

Thank you John - I am excited about it - dreaming of all the islands to row around here in Maine and lakes to traverse. Sorry to here about your SEI - really frustrating when yards don't treat their...

I have been burning mid night oil working on a personal project - a new fixed seat rowboat that is a hybrid of Jon Aborn's Monument River Wherry and my Drake rowboats.
I have a great series in the...

Very interesting description of what we know as glued-lapstrake plywood construction!
Good luck...beautiful boat

This is why people don't like to row, in general! Yikes!

You will definitely want to make sure you have the knowledge and skills to do this so that you can do it well - if not, find a good designer/builder who can.

One explanation regarding shallow vs deep water boat with regard to seakeeping ability has to do with the shape of the hull and how it interacts with the waves as the hull moves through the water or...

ghostdog,
There is a lot more built into a kit than just the materials - you shouldn't discount the kit as a possibility. Think about the huge time savings. If you love the Gabian, go for it. You...

Looks great - I would love to put together a complete kit for this pram for someone. Lots of fun details!

It makes dust if you mix it right.
It will not gum disc if you mix it right and don't sand too early.
Chemical remover???? Not that I'm aware of. Why would you need to chemically remove it? ...

wizbang,
good question. I have learned to never let it cure for more than a few days because it gets very tough to sand - I sanded a primed boat two weeks later and it was like sanding steel.

If...

We called the Interlux and Pettit 2-parts "stinky paints". They are stinky.

The System 3 product is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy nicer to use - water bases, no VOCs, and smooth and a very durable substrate...

Matt,
Read the Primer instructions and tech sheet and follow them to the T. Two coats of SilverTip Epoxy or Clear Coat (also S3), sand it to 120-150 grit, then go ahead and apply 2-3 coats of the...

Congrats Dale - well deserved.

I find masthead blocks don't create a lead I like on halyards so have always used these masthead fairleads - they also allow yard to get up higher and tighter to...