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Hey Kory,

Nice to hear from you again. Cool to hear about your son also. Hope your search is sucessful.

Tim

I raced at Lake Harriet for a while also. The time commitment was too much for me too.

After racing them it seems like you can't go for a simple sail without tweaking all the lines. They do...

Sailing inland racing scows is a blast. The response when you heel them over and find the sweet part is great! I have a wood M-16 that I single hand most of the time. Wind speeds 8-12 mph are...

DS wrote: Tim B -- I think if I were to dump the boat on the first time out for these people I would never see them again

It definately can't be a surprise. There are two types of people I...

I don't have any experiences of introducing people to sailing on bigger, keel boats like all of you have been posting about. I do have a fair amount of experience introducing/teaching kids and some...

Thank you for all the great ideas! My wife and I were at an antique store the other day and picked up a book about the lifesaving service around Cape Cod in the 1890's. The boys had a good night of...

My dad was in the Navy during WWII. He was never much interested in boats when I was growing up. Shortly after I was married he showed some interest and would go sailing with me. I think he felt...

Thanks for the suggestions. I need to research some of them. I don't have a discussion about rowing or sailing heros worked into the planned lessons. I just want to have thoughts prepared if an...

I am teaching some Boy Scout merit badges this summer; a rowing merit badge class and a sailing merit badge class. This is my third summer doing it and it has become a highlight for my summers. So...

Most of the sailboats I get out on are small <20 ft, sloop or cat rigged boats sailed on lakes. I've hove to on my sloop rigged scow before, mainly just to see if it can be done. It got me...

Back when I was a kid in the 1970's I read a series of fiction books that followed two young sailors in the USN during WW2. In the first book of the series the two main characters, who are best...

The mast is straight grained spruce. Start out making sure you can get some appropriate wood for the repair. If you are going to attempt to replace the top part of the mast you could cut the top...

I would like to comment in defense of Jason and other builders. I have met Jason at White Bear Boat Works also and have found him very friendly and open to discussion. A few years ago I would stop...

The fiberglass X boat in the picture looks like a JBW's from the late 60's or early 70's. JBW had the splash boards molded into the hull on X's, M's and C's during that period. The club footed jib...

What a lovely boat. Thank you for sharing the pics.

Making slow but steady progress taking planks off. The planks are caulked with a white, hard substance. I called Melges Boat Works to asked what it was when I was working on the M-scow. They were...

B scows have been long gone. Dan has the length correct.

Here is a quick summary of the IYLA classes: In the 1890's yatch clubs in Minnesota and Wisconsin where compaigning boats built to...

Lovely looking boat Dan. It looks a little like the old Johnson Boat Works pointy bow A scows and E scows.

For this post let’s talk about removing screws. Some type of putty covers the screws. It is very hard and white. I think it is something like Rock Hard Water Puty. This is what Melges Boat Works said...

It has been nine months and I think it is time for an update. Slowly a plan has formed. It is a five-year plan. Year one is the take a part phase. Working on the boat over the winter did not work...

My wife and I visited a flea market today. One guy was selling a small (~14 foot) racing scow of a design I had never seen. He only knew a little about it. No picture, so I'll do my best to...

Older scows can be great buys. Most active scow sailors are racers and only interested in the newest equipment. It seems like many people new to sailing shy away from scows because they seem...

I keep a running list of all the different boats I've sailed. Does that make me a boat Dog?

"As a non racer ... walk me through what should have happened in this instance.

Racing is an absolute mystery to me."

Starting at the begining of the clip.
1. Boat #1 (the one that gets hit)...

— A twice daily half-hour commute will, over a year, consume the energy equivalent of 24lb of fat

I've rode my bike to work (32 miles round trip) 3 to 4 days per week June through September. ...

You may want to consider the Alden Ocean Shell double. It is 18 ft long, 24 - 30 inches wide, fiberglass, about 60 pounds without sliding seat-rigger assembly. The sliding seat snaps into place and...

Weather helm is the tendancy for the boat to turn into the wind. Your stearing the boat to leeward to stay in a straight line. Weather helm results from the CE being too far behind the CLR.

Lee...

CLR is not a quantity value as much as it is a position value. Think of a tetter-totter. The mathmatical center of the hull resistance to sideways movement is the CLR. It is equivalent to the...

Other quick ways of reducing weather helm while underway:
1. ease the main
2. harden (pull in) the jib
3. shift weight in the boat (moving weight forward can reduce mast rake which moves CE...

Good point Dan, I didn't think of that.

To elaborate further. The center board needs to be moved aft. Weather helm is caused by the center of effort (CE) of the sails being too far behind the center of laterial resistance (CLR) of the...

I have a pre-WWII copy of a US Naval manual (Knight's Modern Seamanship?) that has instructions for splicing solid braided rope. It does not specify material.

The El Toro design is probably the most well known. It is the MacGregor hull with a dagger board instead of a lee board. The El Toro also has the pram partially decked over to accomidate a...

The Crystal Lake YC in Michigan sails them. Are you in contact with them?

http://www.clyc.net/w-ps.htm

About the mast, there are alot of these old scows around the mid-west. You may be able to find a used mast around. Go to the ILYA website follow their links to member club sites. You and usually...

Gary,

Nice to meet you. I lurk in here sometimes and just noticed your post. Congrats on acquiring your C-scow. The inland lakes scows are my favorite type of boat. I have worked on a few of...

This administration's attitude towards torture and their willingness to ignore an individual's rights is disgusting! I have supported this administration for a long time. This whole theme of...

Interesting. Does he say anything about the amount of water it takes to produce a gallon of ethanol? I've read some articles that put it as high as 5 gallons that are evaporated (not reclaimed in a...

Joe, Great post. I only stop about twice a week, so I just saw this thread. Reading it was a great way to start my day. Thankyou for posting it and the pictures. The boat is truly lovely,...

Excellent story Joe. Thankyou so much for sharing it. I too am proud of your achievements! -Tim

This is a re-type of some deck re-canvassing instructions from Melges Boat works. They are from the 1970's. I will put any of (my own comments in parenthesis).

Melges Boat Works Inc.
Inland...

This is an email from a former JBW employee. His first name is Willie but I blanked out the rest since I don't think he posts here. He was working at JBW when they were building scows out of wood. ...

The process I used for glassing my M scow was very similar to the A scow web site I link. I emailed some of the people on that site for info. Here are the steps I took:
0. Start condition for...

I looked into canvassing the hull of my scow too. Conclusion was it was a very heavy way to go. Putting a layer of e-glass and epoxy over the hull is a much better solution in my opinion. Here is...

My humble opinion is that WBBW's idea of replacing hard caulk with 5200 is a waste. Especially on a JBW hull since the two planking layers are hard glued to eachother anyway. Maybe OK on a Melges...

Pat,

I came across this website yesterday. It documents restoring/refinishing a 1963 C scow in a very similar manor to what you are planning. Hope you enjoy.

Tim
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Normally, a harder filler like epoxy/wood flour mix would be used to fill dings in planks and a softer flexiable material for longer splits and along caulking lines. The flexable material would move...

Pat,

Regarding deck canvass. I found it alittle difficult to find material that was wide enough without any seems. A local place that made custom awnings was were I got mine. For my 16ft scow I...

Hey Dave,

Here is what I know about early X boats. JBW did not start double planking any of their boats until after WWII, in the 1950's sometime. The following is quoted right out of "The...

The e-scow sounds great. Is this the e-scow that was listed on the escow.org in Colorado? What year and make is it? I am an avid scow sailor from Minneapolis, MN. I don't do very much racing. ...