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I like Kevin's point........have to look into that but my sense is that if you end up with the boat it's a quid pro quid undertaking so clothing it as a donation could be problematic.

Also, when...

So having a 15" boat like Navigator (310lbs approx) professionally, in glued lap, built should cost approx 30K?
And that's without rig or trailer?
Whoa......

Posting this in Misc. Boat Related because I am too preoccupied with other things to seriously consider building a real day boat.
Have built a SOF kayak and have re-done two FRP canoes entirely for...

Great to see this thread going again. The Cornish Crabber is lovely and the dodger strikes me as well proportioned.
I have now seen a Pathfinder in the flesh and have come to the conclusion that...

Nice looking vessel..looks as the owner modified the Pathfinder by hanging the OB off the stern (as opposed to interior well per plans) or is that a Navigator fitted with a cabin?
Best, David

Navigator stretched about 5-6% would be nice as well. Easier single row than Pathfinder.
Give up a bit in pure speed to Iain's planing dinghy but looks to have more freeboard, side decks and proven...

James I approach this admittedly from the standpoint of a canoe sailor who has a means of getting off the water within a short distance at all times.
I can drop all rigs underway when I have to,...

Also depends I suppose if you are a gunkholer, and usually able to dip in somewhere to land and unstrike a rig, or more prone to open water where you expect to be reef, strike rigs and the like...

Great posts KHP......

James, wondering what the designed length, per plans, was?
Best, David

Ed and James and OP:
Is Iain's lengthened version of Arctic Tern (approx 17'2" loa), as built recently by Adrian Morgan, closer in hull form to the Mk II or MK III version?
That seems like just...

Douglas Brooks, a boatbuilder in Vergennes VT, is someone whose work and publications you might look into/DES

I am really after a sloop so, while I understand all the arguments for a yawl rig on Nav, I going to keep it to s single mast.
Boomkin def no; bowsprit, maybe.

Once I get the plans, I want to...

That's a stout and handsome looking vessel.
That's a great spot, Pemaquid that is......

I'm not real fond of sailing in real light breezes so I may not adjust rig.
May engage JW to draw up slightly different rig, carbon fibre spar, uber stiff, just a headstay, and no bowsprit.
A...

..pulled the trigger today and ordered Navigator plans from Duckworks.

It's down to three:
Arctic Tern (shortened a bit per I.O.)
Navigator (perhaps lengthened on the order of 6% with blessing...

Does cypress fare better than the pines and cedars in this context (dry-sailing)?
What about larch and mahogany?

...and what role does the use of some type of mastic in the laps play?
An old timer I know down in Barnegat, when talking about this very topic, mentions that it was customary to keep a kettle full...

Perhaps it's anathema to WB crowd but a discarded carbon fibre spar (from a windsurf shop in my case) has been phenom.
I just lash wood and leather to it as needed for the rig it's designated for....

Phenom looking lug rigs there Todd!

I think that the limitations of the sailing canoe are more imagined than real.
You need:

-to be limber
-to have a sense of adventure
-to be flexible and patient in terms of goals

I think...

Adrian Morgan's build of truncated Arctic Tern, larch planked over sawn frames.
Catches my eye for sure:
http://thetroublewitholdboats.blogspot.com/2012/04/arctic-tern-all-planked-straked-up.html
...

Adirondacks I agree are stellar.
NW portion of NY is a bit bleak in my experience which is limited to in and about Redfield and Pulaski.
Great snow belt at Tug Hill Plateau but man I would not want...

Lately summers have been plenty warm and it's good cycling and hiking, even sailing through early/mid Oct.
First summer in a while that I did not burn any wood in Aug or Sept.
This is Norther VT at...

Garret, well I am up for it but at the moment I can only bring my FRP sailing canoe (with lots of wood, including rigs of my own making)...
Maybe we should start a thread and get a sense of who...

I have had good experience with denatured alcohol with a lint free cloth.

If not a Champlain Messabout, could always be Memphremagog or Seymour, which is the largest contained entirely within VT.
Winds more predictable than Willoughby, which is admittedly more beautiful....

Sounds like a nice find! Kudos!
What species of wood?
Best, David

Just learned of a shortened version of Arctic Tern, loa 17'2", with ability to build at beam of the full length boat, or the narrower version (-3" approx).
Iain seems supportive of building her in...

Good ideas all around, thanks!

"Gave it a narrow flat bottom to keep it easily groundable. Made the hull quite asymmetrical with increased buoyancy aft.... double enders of the right design will...

Dreamy eyed...yes, that captures it nicely......

I want the sloop but also the simplicity of throwing the spar in the partner and going.
Headstay sounds good on paper but I'm no sailmaker.
Can't...

Father and son, both erudite and compelling!
And canoe sailors to boot?
Best, David

Wow, so much there to consider.
I still believe in printing out and reading carefully a few times before responding and that's what I'll do tonight!
Really thoughtful, and incisive, of you to post...

Do you think Tirrik can be stretched to good effct by about 5% length only?

HI Paul, have thought about Elf, but I think I am seeking a CB as opposed to dagger and something that will stand up to some fresh winds when appropriate. Beam a tad narrow for what I have in mind....

Hi All:

I bought plans for the Ness Y a few years back, was very impressed with the artistry and detail, and have decided that I am seeking a capable sailing vessel of a somewhat smaller size.
...

Would it not be great for cleats, belaying pins, tholes and the like.
Also, if you have a cuddy or cabin seems like it would be nice for some contrast in an interior.
Looks great oiled as well....

I've got two non pressurized Origo alcohol burners, one smaller than the other.
It was not until last week that I had ever used one indoors, following Sandy.
The larger one, a Heat Pal, did a nice...

Crossing the Gulf Steam to Bimini and back, and sailing in New Zealand.

I am hoping for speedy recovery for Sjogin, Russ and his spouse, Tom Beaton and all those impacted in and about Bayhead and the Metedeconk.
I expect next week to pitch in for some friends a bit...

Gutters clean, all that can be battened down is, non perishables on hand.....we are all in it together!
If the lights go out I always have my mandolin, dobro and guitar!!!!!!
Can you say Sailor's...

NJ vessel reg requirements:
REGISTRATION REQUIRED
Every vessel in New Jersey waters shall be registered and num- bered, except:
a. Vessels operated under a federally approved numbering system...

This surprises me in that here in NJ, a vastly over-regulated place, I have no problems sailing my 2 16'6" footers all over the place without registration or numbers, Same for kayaks and SUPs here....

I think 15-16 would be a more gratifying sail proposition...yet still car toppable.
Yes to paddle steering...no need for anything more complicated on a sail canoe of that order.
If you get the helm...

Small boat to me translates as one reasonably fit person being able to haul her up a bit onto a gentle sandy beach or onto a trailer or dolly, at a ramp or otherwise, unassisted. But then again,...

Bulkheading is anathema to the small boater and sportsperson. Never understand it.
I also don't understand why people need the sanitary feel of gated communities...seems kind of denuded and lifeless...

Could not for the life of me find the film on Netflix...looks intriguing!!!!
Best, David

Great insights...thanks!
Can always count on candid opinions here...love it!

Seems like a lifetime of canoe and small boat cruising in about the Neuse and OBs in general.
Trying to get away next week to check it out....... will report if I go.
Might even be able to join...

Why not SOF ama, perhaps with a small cockpit coaming (covered with neoprene or similar cover). That way it can be opened up and hung to dry as needed.
More floatation.
To my eye, that float could...