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    Sticky: Re: Properties of wood

    Rumars, thanks for your post, that is a very good synopsis.
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    Oh I had the idea 35 years ago after reading an article about a gentleman who made grafting into an art form. I think Axel Erlandson who grew the trees used in the amusement park you linked to was...
  3. Re: How do these things even stay right side up?

    Ugly? Hey it's a work boat what do you expect, form follows function. Who spends money to make art now days?
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    I always wanted to grow a row of trees in a straight line spaced 24" apart. Then graft them together and force the trimed branches into shape forming the ribs, keel, stem and transom of a boat.
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    Sticky: Re: Properties of wood

    Most the the mills on the east coast of the US buy logs from timber companies. Huge tracks of forest (hardwoods) are owned by utility companies. Reforestation is normally replanted with fast growing...
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    Any species can benefit by controlled management. Even though it is being used for landscaping, domestically it is still a small minor tree. Osage Orange is in the same boat.

    Like most trees it...
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    Re: Woodworking Show of Texas

    Some of these shows are aimed at commercial users. Lots of CNC's, egde banders and other automated equipment. Still gun to see though.
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    Re: Woodwinds 2015/2016 Caribbean "cruise"

    Most likely all the nails below the water line are gone. The planks just haven't broken free yet. The rust, paint and caulking is probably holding it togehter.
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    Re: Woodwinds 2015/2016 Caribbean "cruise"

    These guys are trying to fix the frames damaged by fasteners. I suspect iron sickness but there is no way the know from these pictures. The vertical grain in the plugs isn't going to lend much...
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    Locust is a great wood. The problem is the trees don't grow very straight or very tall. Additionally there aren't any forest or wood lots of Locust. They don't dominate other tree species.
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    Re: Table saw, router, track saw decisions

    A track saw is fine for sheet stock and projects that are not longer then the track. They don't have the same flexibility and multiple uses as a table saw.

    A track saw would not be useful cutting...
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    Sticky: Re: Properties of wood

    Apparently it glues well. The issue is availability and cost.

    http://www.plantsaw.co.za/timber/pod-mahogany.html
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    Re: Rail cap - grain run out

    It all comes down to how much per BF the lumber is. It can start costing real money on a 50' boat.
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    Re: Table saw, router, track saw decisions

    I cant see paying for a top end saw for occasional use. For the money spent on a saw hire a boat guy to build your spars.

    If you are going to continue wood working long term into the future by a...
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    Re: Looking for Boat, A Swedish Folk Boat

    Very few people are willing to save something that looks ugly. I've had the lust to fix a few gems but held off, something that has become fugly; no-way.
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    Re: Rail cap - grain run out

    Madison,
    The issue becomes whether or not suitable wide boards are available. To get a 5" wide cap it might take a 12" board to go 10'. Lots and lots of waste involved that usualy can't be used else...
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    Re: Rail cap - grain run out

    Mark,
    You would work with the same length lumber and install each piece as you go. Alternate the joints so they don't fall in the same place. Two 2.5" laminates bent around the bulwark wouldn't be...
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    There is hardly any standing timber compared to DF and other more commercial species.
    Only about 1 million BF are cut each year in Oregon. A lot of mills can cut that amount of lumber in one day.
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    My first concern would be to engineer any flexing components out of my boat.
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    Natural durability of wood:
    A worldwide checklist of species
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    Re: Epoxy after steam bending ash

    If they are rub rails I would not glue them on to the hull so I could replace them if needed some time down the road.
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    Sticky: Re: Properties of wood

    Whiskey,
    The intended application is a primary consideration when chosing a wood species. Your list of charactistics would be applied after knowing the use.
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    Re: Epoxy after steam bending ash

    We dont know what you want to do. Are you going to laminate steamed pieces or coat the outsides?
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    Re: Need to repair frames on Cartopper

    I believe fixing the ply frames will end up being relatively short term fix and a few years down the road you will need to replace them because of rot. Now that they have opened up all the microbes...
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    Re: Varnish brushes

    An actual good brush shouldn't lose it's bristles. There are lots of good brush mfg's to chose from. Expect to pay a minimum 10-15 $ for a decent brush.
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    Re: Restoration of the BC Salmon Troller "Petrel"

    Chris,
    Go with the bolts. Obviously the strongest and most durable solution as well as simple to achieve.
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    Re: Rail cap - grain run out

    I believe Gib is on the money, laminating them would be the best method. It will place a lot less stress on the gunnel. Edge bending it will place a lot of pressure on the top of the sheer regardless...
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    Re: cold molding, maybe?

    I'm just going to advise reading something on the subject at hand before preceding on the next step.
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    Re: Van. Cl 22' Frank Fredette Dble ender.

    Looks like time for the chain saw to me.
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    Re: cold molding, maybe?

    Now that is to bad. You lost a lot of strenght by not glueing the edges. The hull shell would have been a monocoque structure. Now each piece is acting independently. It doesn't change your choices...
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    Re: cold molding, maybe?

    OP,
    Did you edge glue each strip in the normal fashion?
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    Re: cold molding, maybe?

    I'd just use 10oz cloth for abrasion and call it a day. I don't believe you have a strenght problem. Your strip plank hull is stronger than a traditional planked hull even though it's 3/8 instead of...
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    Re: cold molding, maybe?

    I wouldn't try glassing the inside, you have frames for strength so let it be. It will be a lot of work to lay glass and it will require a lot of sanding, filling and sanding to make it took right. ...
  34. Re: Need Help with replacing teak and Holly floor...long post...get a cup of coffee!

    Hey,
    There isn't any question that the mortised joints are better but by how much. The issue is the added time it takes to receive a unmeasurable benefit. In addition there is increased risk when...
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    Re: Re-Temper bronze screws?

    Padeyes and other deck hardware don't require hardness. Strenght can be increased by increasing material thickness. Corrosion resistance is given a higher priority over wear resistance.
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    Re: applying varnish

    +1 On this. Paint, varnish or whatever.
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    Re: The work-to-reward ratio

    I like teaching and helping people but I have little patience for and no desire to work with people that are to smart to listen to others.
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    Re: Maid of Endor model build

    It does look great. Don, are you going to make the cabin top removable so the interior can be seen?
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    Re: The work-to-reward ratio

    I believe how involved in the activity of building and construction a person is over a long span of time has some bearing of the interest level later in life. When it has been a vocation and the body...
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    Re: Essex techniques

    I'm not certain from your photo the methodology you think is contrary to boat building norms. However the approach a professional builder uses to complete a boat might differ from an highly skilled...
  41. Re: Hard plastic caulking between teak decking?

    If you pull the existing material out of the seams it will increase the rate of leaking even if you fill the seams with new sealant.

    You would do more to preserve the boat by spraying the deck "as...
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    Re: Hey Artif..

    With an interior upgrade she'd be great for 2 to live aboard.
  43. Re: Hard plastic caulking between teak decking?

    Lewis,
    You are at the decision point of what to do with the deck. Do nothing, replace the deck yourself, pay someone to replace the deck, or sell.

    At least 1/4" to 3/8" of wood has been removed...
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    Re: The work-to-reward ratio

    As time goes by the rewards from building wanes.
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    Re: Restoration of the BC Salmon Troller "Petrel"

    Chris,
    Good to see you resolved the it doesn't have to be perfect issue the boat has lasted a long time already.
    If you secure (in any manner) the frame in the bilge, a c-clamp attached to the head...
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    Re: Tampa, Fl-Everglades Challenge

    Don't sweat it, it wont be a problem where you will be. I looked up the Race start and it is in Fort DeSoto Park. They have camping in the park so you would be right there where it starts. ...
  47. Re: Hard plastic caulking between teak decking?

    As Denise pointed out, that deck is done, a long time ago actually.
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    Sticky: Re: Properties of wood

    I had the opportunity to visit many of the saw mills on this list. In the past some of them shipped lumber over seas. I would think that if someone wanted a special order of lumber a few of them...
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    Re: Balco 34 - your thoughts?

    Buying an old boat sight unseen would be the definition of insanity. The 28 in Me has some problems from the deck down on the starboard side below the winch. The planks aren't fair and it looks like...
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    Sticky: Re: Properties of wood

    Every state probably has a list of forestry product producers. This is a 2014 list the Pa DCNR compiled.
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