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    Re: Could this be Raw Faith II?

    aint it just a coincidence that the link ( RF ) leads to nowhere
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    Re: Could this be Raw Faith II?

    I gotta go with Bruce on this one James, you deserve a two thumbs up for being kind enough to want to take action but unfortunately, I'm just not sure what you can do. I'd like to be sure the yard...
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    Re: Could this be Raw Faith II?

    There is a mechanism in place whereby a person who is dead set on harming themselves or the people around them can be held against there will. Either a psychologist or a doctor can declare someone a...
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    Re: Could this be Raw Faith II?

    They never should have allowed the Australian boat to get away with the fin, changed the whole character of the race which led to what we have now. My two cents, we now return you to your normally...
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    Re: Could this be Raw Faith II?

    It truly is another raw faith just waiting to happen. I guess its up on a trailer, of sorts and ready to launch, bow first.

    oh the humanity ;-)
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    Define slowly.

    you might like this blog site, which covers whats going on in the Antarctic where my buddy John is studying ice loss.
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    damn, I didn't make the list, must mean I'm a humanitarian to ;-)
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    I'm afraid you've got it a bit mixed up. The fresh water influx due to melt water effects both salinity and temp. Lighter less saline water, thats warmer, tends to effect where in the ocean system...
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    Breakaway, your more than welcome, ask away, I can handle honest questions about how this stuff works, its denial that drives me nuts. If they're is anything else I can possibly respond to, fire...
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    actually Switters when the grand oceanic current ( thermohaline circulation ) fails its game over, the world freezes in another snow ball earth event like what happened in the pre cambrian when...
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    Found this article today on artificial trees in scientific america

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=prospects-for-direct-air-capture-of-carbon-dioxide
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    Re: Bye bye beaches

    Those last two raised an interesting point. My take on it is that while we reduced visible pollutants at least here in the US we did nothing to curb invisible pollutants, like CO2, which had an...
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    which is why the CH4 sinks are so important. There's no way yet to scrub CH4 from the atmosphere and its about 25 times more powerful a greenhouse gas as CO2. Once those sinks let go there is no...
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    Re: I predict political upheaval in Minnesota

    Yikes

    Go sober up some and then maybe we can chat ;-)
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    Re: Black helicopters

    I don't do survey's, they've never even remotely followed up on my refusal to do so.
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    No I think we're ultimately screwed cause even if a small consortium did erect a few hundred square miles of artificial trees, the rest of the world wouldn't slow down one bit on producing CO2. But...
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    If I remember even if we immediately stopped all CO2 production we'd still see about another two degrees of warming. So the trick is going to be to mechanically remove the excess CO2 from the...
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    The drug laws are just beyond lunacy. Countries that legalized drugs saw less crime, particularly violent crime, lower addiction rates, lower deaths due to drug use. increased revenues and a...
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    Not sure we do have differing view on the FFL. I haven't taken the class yet, so I'm not properly educated on the subject. I keep hearing about it, and that its a good idea to have one if you...
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    Re: Bye bye beaches

    there's a guy named Calembach who wrote one called Ecotopia that was entertaining. Not sure it qualifies as a detailed alternative but it was an interesting read.
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    Oreskes does a great lecture on the history of climate denial

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    Re: Bye bye beaches

    I'd also clamor for universal birth control, but that'd freak out the religious right.
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    I think its important to realize gun crime is down across the board for a significant number of years. Responsible gun ownership is up, and even violent crime is way down. So it would appear to me...
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    something else that I think is inhibiting the creation of a national license is the desire to avoid a national registry. No one really wants the gubment to know what they have. I sure don't. In other...
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    Hanley

    yup
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    OK so its technically called the non resident permit but most folks I know just refer to it as the federal permit since it covers so many states.
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    To answer your last, its easy to know what will happen just by looking at previous extinction events and seeing how long they lasted, how far down things died and at what speed the climate system...
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    Re: One world trade center

    well I've had the same MAC for about 10+ years now and its still going strong, OK it doesn't play some of the new stuff but it works like a charm. Crunches and grinds a bit but never dies. Nor does...
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    Re: Bye bye beaches

    Limbaugh is a drug induced hypocrite and I'm not exactly sure why we are even discussing his antics. I thought this thread was about coastal erosion ?
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    perfectly reasonable question, we're dramatically changing a dynamic system would be my best answer. First I'd suggest looking at a graph of CO2 over the last half million years or so

    see...
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    Yikes, that was so long ago, I missed that completely, now I'm going to have to go look that up, thanks for the tip.

    OK I lucked out and used the correct term. But clouds do both, effect...
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    Ask away, I'd be happy to try answer any questions you might have. Chip also did a great job pointing out some cloud dynamics as well, so I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be happy to engage some...
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    Again, your missing the point, its all about rate of change, not that things don't change or that various weather systems don't have similar charictoristics. Look at the graphs of historical CO2...
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    Re: One world trade center

    Get a MAC, at worst a virus will only crash your browser. Pretty sure there is only one or two that ever successfully screwed up a MAC
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    well done Chip

    see
    http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/fig/figure3-22-l.png

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    http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch3s3-4-3-1.html


    Andy once again...
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    Re: I predict political upheaval in Minnesota

    OK fighting and wining, get old fast either way.
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    Re: I predict political upheaval in Minnesota

    I'm always curious about peoples opinions on stuff like that as well. So I'll go first. I couldn't care less how gay some fool is or if he wants to go marrying his whatever. No skin off my nose, I...
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    thats not quite how it works Andy. Water vapor is a different form of matter than clouds are , Clouds are condensed vapor, the liquid form of water. The two act very differently. Water vapor has the...
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    Re: WSJ Climate Denial

    Climate science is a very complex study of a multitude of disciplines. Ask me individual questions and I'll try and provide some answers if you are interested. One thing at a time tho lest we get...
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    Re: One world trade center

    "They" got their war on the middle east, "they" have all the flag waving idiots firmly standing behind them. "They" now have the excuse they were looking for to erode the constitution and further the...
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    Re: Bye bye beaches

    Sorry but your really confused. Some simple calculations made about 120 years ago predicted how CO2 would effect temp. Turns out the guy who first proposed them was right on the money as shown in my...
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    Re: I predict political upheaval in Minnesota

    Yup, closing the loopholes in state background checks has huge support. Hell I support it. But the geniuses in Washington added so much trash to the package there was no way it was ever intended to...
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    Re: I predict political upheaval in Minnesota

    Your assuming I have any faith in the fascist state. Until we get campaign finance out of the hands of the corporations and back into the hands of the people, corporate interests will be replacing...
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    Re: I predict political upheaval in Minnesota

    Which is exactly what is about to happen here in Colorado. Our legislators screwed up completely and passed a couple of real winners that will end up getting those involved ousted.
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    Re: I predict political upheaval in Minnesota

    The reason it didn't pas is because the anti gun nuts slipped in all kinds of constitution negating trash which was an obvious effort to restrict honest people from buying the self defense weapons of...
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    Re: Bye bye beaches

    People who deny the effects of burning fossil fuels are simply not dealing with reality. There's a very basic and well understood difference between CO2 created through natural organic processes and...
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    I can't speak for my roomy but I personally am in favor of universal background checks, as I've said many times but as usual, gets ignored by the more rabid anti gun nutters in the pile, and again...
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    a perfect example of ad hominem self centered egotism with a smattering of ignorance and lack of respect for anothers expression of there constitutional rights.
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    I love being misrepresented

    I'm the guy that spelled out very clearly that while the IPCC in their fourth assessment report finds no scenario which falls bellow doubling of CO2 by 2100. ( Which...
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    Re: For Our Gun Thread Lovers

    Oh and Glen, my record is spotless, I'm thinking of going for my federal concealed carry, would make traveling a lot easier. In any case if The Judge is right and you are a retired cop, then I'd...
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