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    Re: Quote of the day.

    I drive a diesel Smart car. Diesel is $2.59 a litre in Vancouver BC Canada which is ridiculous as it needs less processing. About $9.80 a gallon. I think regular gas is around $8.75/gallon
    $4.85 per...
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    Re: Small Boat Sailing

    I sail in the protected waters of a local Fjord/inlet. However it can have some strong outflow and inflow winds.
    I sailed my Shellback all winter and last summer I took it on a couple of 40km (there...
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    Oar handles too small?

    My Gartside #130 came with a lovely looking pair of 9'3" oars
    They are almost so pretty I don't want to use them!
    The main thing is they have quite small diameter handles.
    I'm used to the beefier...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Weeeeell I have six cleats roughed out and ready for final sanding etc.
    I was originally going to make 4 and reuse the originals and I might still do but on 2 of them the grain orientation wasn't...
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    Re: Melonseed bottom repair

    I would also use a ply patch and maybe even glass on top of it.
    It would be hard to match that complicated shape and taper.
    As suggested a rectangle maybe going up both sides of the board with a...
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    Re: An Ilur in Hansville

    As above, or just use the cleat you already have there. My understanding was the downhaul should be attached near the tack of the sail. (hope I used the right corner) basically you're pulling the...
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    Re: An Ilur in Hansville

    My shellback is also on a trailer with 3 rollers and 2 side bunks amidships. the rollers take the weight and the bunks just keep the boat from rocking a round on the trailer. I will be using the same...
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    Re: An Ilur in Hansville

    Ah, the eyebolt would be for the downhaul and the belaying pin would be for the main halyard.
    Where are you belaying your main halyard? (just curious not at all judging)

    Your mast partner...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Nothing too exciting to report as I'm in the middle of a move. Landlord uses the seaside love palace for the summer, unusual lease. Tomorrow in the freshly forecast wind and rain I haul out the 20'...
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    Re: An Ilur in Hansville

    Lovely ! I'm a biog fan of the Illur, Stout, capable and shapely.
    Are you not having belaying pins? Or are they on the way?
    You should ask Roger barnes about his trailer . He seems to have his...
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    Re: Transom rot help please

    I would get my $$ back from anyone you paid to examine this boat for you . Particularly the surveyor. That seems like bad practice. Some $$ to put towards the repair. I have experienced and seen far...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    This guys method is pretty cool
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYl3YJOMjNw
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Well after about 2 dozen hours of scraping sanding, scraping, sanding, filling, sanding scraping, filling, sanding etc. all by hand I managed to get the bottom of the hull to a point where I felt I...
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    Re: Biden 2024.

    Sure, and gun violence is epidemic in the states.Children are being killed en masse.
    And people claim gun ownership is a right.

    Guns take lives, probably way more than abortion ever has.
    Why...
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    Re: Biden 2024.

    I read somewhere that they should make buying a gun for a male as difficult as getting an abortion for a women.

    It seemed eminently sensible

    Here it is. Personally I don't feel men have the...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Director of school where the boat was built 20 (not 40) years ago said that brightsides and interlux in general were the paints they were likely using as that's what the local store carried.
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    But But...what if I already have the primer? Heck!

    Bottom paint is about 98% scraped off. Now some last little bits , a bit more filling/fairing(scraping pulls some hidden loose fastener plugs)...
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    Anybody local want to save this boat?

    Looks like some sort of row motorboat. i don't see a mast step though they say there's a mast with it.
    It's current storage looks less than ideal though
    ...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Decided to go whole hog and scrape all the unnecessary bottom paint off. So I picked up some red and blk brightsides and a quart of the primer too. Hopefully I can sell my gallon of Micron to cover...
  20. Re: One insane englishman trying to rebuild the 1910 gaff cutter Tally Ho, in WA. (VI

    Lately, this and Roger Barnes have been the only videos I watch
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Fasteners holes 99% filled. Thanks for all the help and patience with my dithering.
    Glad to get that done
    Some of the deeper ones are plugged with cedar bungs with the grain aligned appropriately....
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    Re: Reefing A Boomless Sail

    Yes you want your reefing lines permanently in the reef points and dropping it will be easiest. Less force on the boat and less chance for things to go amiss while you give your attention to tying in...
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    Re: Painting my bottom

    I believe you that it's good, however Seattle is a 3 hr drive from here. I know because I use to play shows there regularly many years back. Even in my little car , for 6 hours of driving, the paint...
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    Re: Painting my bottom

    I'm not a chemist but it doesn't seem to be far off from brightsides, at least on solids
    However they are different types of paints

    43% to brightsides 45%
    I'm going to check tomorrow on the...
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    Re: Painting my bottom

    What about this stuff?
    There close and they generally make good paint
    I'm not sure what to look for in the data sheets though...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    99% of the fasteners on my boat are copper rivets and roves to the frames and small nails on the laps , so most of the fasteners are only about 1/16" deep in the 3/8" cedar planks so I think that's...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    We were just discussing. I will be using a more conventional primer when, and if I remove all the unnecessary bottom paint.
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    My concern is twofold; moisture being absorbed by the inside and getting trapped between the outer layer and the wood, possibly promoting rot. Also the two sides expanding and contracting at...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Does it allow the wood to swell and shrink naturally? I don't actually know myself. Opinion seems to be divided.
    Do you have a traditional construction wooden boat that you've used it on? I know a...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    I actually have confirmation as to her exact age from the people that worked at the boat building school where this very boat was built. 2001-2002. So 20 years is right. And though she wasn't very...
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    Re: Painting my bottom

    I've sanded a lot of it away but there's obviously a few coats with some sort of white primer underneath.
    A sharp scraper lifts most of it and I might have a go at that carefully. i don't know where...
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    Re: Painting my bottom

    This actually interesting because I was contemplating just using this micron I have so i can go sailing with the least amount of fuss and though I tell them that there are bare spots from scraping...
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    Re: Painting my bottom

    No I didn't put anything on anything, I just got the boat and I'm doing the necessary work. It does not need bottom paint. it's a 12' cedar dinghy that will not live in the water..and never has...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Looking at bronze screws #6 1/2" .36$ each! Oh well I only need 50 or 60

    Set up a tarp tent for painting. Got the floorboard shapes mapped out. Boards sat in the sun for an hour with the tick...
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    Re: Painting my bottom

    Yup it is and already upside down on horses,
    I'm just putting a temporary tarp tent over it as though we are almost in summer we are still in a rain forest.
    What would be the best way of removing...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Thanks,I like simple
    Another general question regarding cedar soles. Should I use screws or nails to fasten the boards to the strapping underneath? I would use bronze or copper but i'm curious if...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Thanks for that. Did you use the ship and shore sealer or the teak oil for your sole? I was going to use dalys too.
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    Painting my bottom

    Okay here's my usual stupid question. If my small wooden sailing dinghy/trailer sailor has old and unnecessary bottom paint on it that's been throughly scraped and sanded but not entirely removed,...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Indeed, I agree soft. However I'm following what it said on Mr. Gartside's plans and what's more, it's FREE! yay! I don't have any free fir, maybe some free locust and mahogany, but both would be...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Floorboards milled out at my brothers house. (He has a planer and table saw) We had acquired lots of tight-grained old growth red cedar boards 16' long, lots of locust and other wood when we were...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    There! I have pulled out(if loose or cracked)and mostly cleaned out 240 fastener holes to be filled. Most very shallow with maybe a dozen deeper ones.Still sorting out what to use but many viable...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    There was piles of them as there is a boat rental place. probably 20-40 other canoes etc. on the water. I was the only sailboat, something of a novelty
    It was interesting that despite the ratty...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Thanks though I want to get the floorboards and sternsheets done, so I might as well get the bottom filled and painted to.
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    As there was a spell of good weather after the on and off torrential downpours of the last couple days. I decided to try and float the boat in this tiny local lake that's pretty close. It's a beach...
  45. Re: Looking for information on a vintage sailboat photograph

    Transfer the photo to your computer. (Or I guess you could use your phone if you have one)
    Click the photo icon on the right of the tool bar when posting. Click 'from computer' in the popup that...
  46. Re: Paint now or later ? Lapstrake Whitehall

    I seems more practical to paint it as is upside down. Unless there are other considerations that I am unaware of other than physical ease. Easier to see, light, paint wouldn't drip on you,etc. etc....
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    No problem

    Regarding splashing the boat. Is there a big advantage to do so prior to repair/filling/painting to determine problem areas?
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Sorry I wasn't clear, the other dimension was the humourous complete sidetrack on the thread preceding my post

    There is a very small lake about 15 minutes away. I'd have to dolly it to the water...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    Why do I feel like I'm in another dimension? BY:D

    Hey Mr Ford. I'm expecting leaking upon splashing. However I don't have a place to sink the boat and let it sit on the bottom for a few days. I am...
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    Re: A Gartside # 130 followed me home

    No I haven't and I've been kicking myself about it. Kicking myself even harder now it's upside down on horses with some of the fairing pulled out of the stem..yay! Maybe I will flip her and put her...
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