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I'd also reccomend that Veritas sharpening/ honing jig too with the combination Japanese waterstones. I'd also get the book by Thomas Lie Nielson, Taunton Guide to Sharpening, so that he can sharpen...

Sweet.

Marie's and many Scandinavian boats waterlines are fuller forward and more tapered aft, opposite to modern day boats that are tapered forward and full aft. What good and bad characteristics...

The way Geoff Kerr is doing it on this mk3 Caledonia Yawl from a Hewes & Co kit at Off Center Harbour. Built the hull in a week. Nice videos.

He sure don't look like he used to.
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That's not right. There is something amiss geometrically, especially if the other side is the same.

Take the mold off and check its dimensionally perfect, and the correct height from the baseline....

Working with plywood for a light, tight, stiff structure, I use low angle block planes a lot. Block planes are light, which is usefull for working at the boat with arms in the air, the short length...

For me, this video of an Echo skiff rowing in very rough rip tide tells you what you need to be looking for in a rough water rower.

http://www.echorowing.com/images/LornaRough.MPG

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Francois Viver Ebihen 16 Motor version. 5-10hp outboard engine is inboard optimally infront of the rudder. (pics of one rigged for sail)
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http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Port-Isaac-Lugger-Day-Sailing-Boat-beautiful-and-in-great-condition-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/OO8AAMXQQQhRd6hq/$(KGrHqN,!qMFERq2FpHuBRd6hqS7zQ~~60_12.JPG
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I can't say who built that, but I can suggest the designs influence. She's has the shape of a small Falmouth River Punt. Typically these were built carvel. On grown frames of English Oak, US built...

Nick, Kevin, Richard and George, thankyou. Plenty to search through.

Ed

Can anyone point me in the direction of books that deal with optimum waterline shapes. I'm especially looking for something with scientific basis with maybe test tank data. Especially interested in...

CLC have a new Expedition Wherry which does have outriggers, sliding seat, can take a passenger by moving the sliding seat assembly forward.
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The S versioin, is fully at the outset for dinghy racing with crew. I guess additional to the longer length the typical 'proper' dinghy alloy mast with hole sheeves etc was flooding compared to a...

Kevin's videos are high quality like his boat.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McBMPcfXhvs


There are rigging video's of his Navigator Slip Jig which show it's form and size to see if it...

This family built the S version with the largest bermudan rig option. Also elipsed the foils, slightly changed the seating for all the crew and lead everything back.
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Nav taken to Fiji.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef6aezKUHV8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG0-onhxS9M

More Nav's.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NEW91bsIjY

Regarding the Navigator,

1. I don't know if its right to assume an Oughtred double ender is quicker to build. Its depends on motivation, weather restraints, time available and previous experience...

Or should do...ecologically speaking.

Or required to..local one design historic racing like Solent XOD fleets.

The only account of cherub 2 I know of at 20ft and 1.2 tons is in John leathers book, Sail and Oar. Albert's was double skin, a fore and aft layer outside a diagonal layer with three stringers inside...

Sounds like you know the type Peter.

From the Albert Strange book, it says the transom version measures, 25'10" loa, 22'9" lwl, 480 sqft, 3'9" draft, 8'3" beam, 4.6 tons to compare.

Says...

Apologies, your right. I was looking at Lodestars online version and there's a page jump, after starting to describe Cherub III. This is why I like analogue books. There's the lines of Monie in that...

Interesting in cruising hints book it desribes a steel ring frame for the tabernackle support and shroud attachment.

You could ask Ed Burnett to taylor and 'update' the design based on his...

http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/gallery/brough/1932-brough-superior-ss100-1140x570.jpg

Brough Superior.

Peter,

There were two versions of Cherub III drawn by Albert Strange. One canoe sterned the other transom'd. The transom version is in the Albert Strange design collection book by Jamie Clay...

Dylan,

Had a look thorugh John Leather's book Barges (describes the UK coastal barges and lines etc).

He says many of the barges collected hay bails from farms close to London, then went back...

Its a good little engine as far as small engines go, if noisy being air cooled. They need frequent use, but that's not how it always is.

What's ethanol free fuel called that you ran through, it...

To get back to Europe, the Romans wanted to connect London with Dover, and needed a good bridge accross the Medway river. They tended to always straight line everything place to place, with good road...

Dylan, the BBC interviewed a Huffler back in April.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2012/16/Our-Food-ep-3.html


There is a pub in Dartford called the Hufflers Arms.

"in the dark...

The whilly boat, tirrik and ness yawl are the same boat at different lengths.

The j2 is a slightly shorter ness yawl, made 6 strake.

The whilly tern and arctic tern are the slightly sail...

There's only a schematic picture, no photo.

It says the Huffler's were raced in a class at Rochester Regatta. Worked until 1933 when a tug was used to pull barges through the bridge. Then they...

The Hufflers mizzen arrangement was unique among UK workboats as far as I'm aware.

They worked the river Medway Off Chatham and Rochester, to assist spritsail barges through the Rochester bridge....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tgWAgYfuVZg/TjRTZmXwx7I/AAAAAAAAAHo/1VfVyLZlNB0/s912/IMG_2658.JPG
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Fisher Nautical, in the UK.

It takes them 3 years, just to compile the catalogues going from A to Z, one a month. They buy and sell. 30-40,000 mostly out of print maritime books. Sometimes...

Gillig,

I've done the experiment with a Tammie Norrie and then a Tirrik, to compare the straight stem and transom stern with the longer double ended type, of about the same displacement and sail...

Thanks Gilberj.

LFH's Meadowlark design and construction appears well proven with Whimbrel.

Haiku has 771 kg lead under her bottom. Her designed displacement is 1950kg and she's designed for 2...

Gilberj,

Thanks. Reading about Meadowlark, LFH says the slight round and submerged chine should prevent slapping, and the use of bilge boards was to allow uninterrupted frames "to be strong enough...

Overall, with her advantages of draft, she sounds like an extremely fine boat. Well done Mr Herreshoff!

I impressed that she's stiff and she sounds well balanced and can reef late. Fast too!
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Gliberj,

When coasting along in your Meadowlark, does she slap unduly, does she feel especially tender in a gust more than you'd expect, does she make use of her long waterline for added speed...

There's too much democracy in America: your representatives should be changed only at the same time as your President: electing a fixed term dictator, every 4 years instead.

With your current...

As a monhull person, I get intrigued by trimarans and sharpies. The trimarans for greater speed and shallow draft, the sharpies, for speed/ efficiency of construction, and shallow draft.

I'm...

Could the fire service use that?

One thing the guy with the cardigan bay lugger found, was that he was pretty quick in light air compared to all the big charter boats, but in flat calm, needed plenty of fuel in case of a long motor...

The Watercraft article is March/ April 2008. 4 pages. From the uk, he says he needed the boat to be on the Small Ships Register, and was asked for it just once in Gaios. He bought it from Swallow...

18'7" Cardingan Bay Lugger, from Swallow Boats. Its a Storm 19 with a cabin, lug yawl. 250kg.

http://images1.hellotrade.com/data2/NQ/RU/HELLOTD-1751414/8a_250x250.jpg


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Welcome to the forum Iain Oughtred!

Please do chip in if you ever have the time.

Your boats are ace (I'm building your Shearwater).


Regards

Ed (UK)

Ed mentioned earlier that we are refurbishing a Whilly Boat at the moment. She's a very pretty hull indeed, finished with Deks Olje, no tanks. Built in the early nineties.
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Peter, were you looking at Harrison Butler designs for the possible 5 tonner?

There's this 25ft H-B 'Bogle' 6 tonner to look at, as a design.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1sq-mgnO6k

Ed