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  • Ian McColgin
    Senior Member
    • Apr 1999
    • 51639

    Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

    [IMc - Gelernter shows that one may be truly brilliant in one field and totally crackers in others. It should be noted that computer science, like math, is not always about reality.]

    TRUMP SCIENCE ADVISOR DENIES APOLLO MOON LANDINGS EVER HAPPENED

    Donald Trump’s newly appointed science and technology advisor, Yale University professor David Gelernter, has already attracted a barrage of criticism after making controversial statements this week during an exclusive interview with Science Today.

    The controversial computer scientist already known for his strong stance against the science behind global warming has openly and vehemently criticized the space policy of the Barack Obama administration and its goal to reach Mars in 2030.

    “ How can we manage to organize a U.S.-crewed orbital Mars mission by the mid-2030s when we never even went to the moon? The idea is laughable, as was Obama’s administration, if I may add ” – Yale Professor David Gelernter

    “The Apollo moon landings are the biggest fraud in mankind’s history, even worse than all that global warming nonsense,” he added.

    A voyage that never was

    This is not the first time the controversial professor has attacked the Apollo moon landings. In his 2012 book America-Lite: How Imperial Academia Dismantled Our Culture (and Ushered in the Obamacrats) the author voices his concerns about the impossibility of space travel outside the Earth’s magnetic field.

    “In the modern age, we have never been outside the Earth’s magnetic field. With the exception of the alleged 24 human beings who flew lunar flights in the Apollo program during the four-year period spanning 1968 through 1972, all human spaceflights have taken place in low Earth orbit (LEO) or below. Even the International Space Station conducts all its operations in LEO,” he explained in his book.

    “Why is that? This is because orbits higher than low orbit can lead to early failure of electronic components due to intense radiation and charge accumulation,” he wrote.

    A dangerous belt of radiation

    The Yale professor also documented in his book how NASA was, and still is, aware of the impossibility of traveling beyond the Van Allen Belt, a highly charged radioactive belt that is part of the planet’s magnetic field.

    “The Apollo missions were supposed to be the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts, which was one of several radiation hazards known by mission planners, but even today, NASA scientists admit they can’t get past the Van Allen Belts” he claims in his 2012 book.

    “If NASA scientists honestly admit in 2012 that they still haven’t worked out how to properly shield the spacecraft from the radiation emitted from the Van Allen belts, how the hell did we send human beings into space covered in aluminum foil suits? At a particular time when the Solar activity was at its peak? The answer is simple: It just never happened,” he concluded on the matter.

    Despite his controversial claims, David Gelernter is a world-renown and multiple award-winning computer scientist known for his contributions to parallel computation and his early prediction of the rise of the World Wide Web.

    Time Magazine profiled Gelernter as one of the 100 most influential people of the 21st century in 2016, describing him as an “arch-genius.” The New York Times called him a computer science “rock star” and “one of the most brilliant and visionary computer scientists of our time.”

  • skuthorp
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2002
    • 73600

    #2
    Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

    I shakes me head.

    Pull it all down……………...

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    • LeeG
      Senior Member
      • May 2002
      • 72781

      #3
      Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

      One can criticize the value of a manned mission to Mars without being a show boating nut case.

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      • Iceboy
        Frozen Member
        • Feb 2001
        • 2743

        #4
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        Just because you know about computers it doesn't mean you know beans about space travel. Kind of like an accountant telling you how to do brain surgery.
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        • Peerie Maa
          Old Grey Inquisitive One
          • Oct 2008
          • 62422

          #5
          Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

          I'm surprised that the University that employs him have not introduced him to some scientists. Ones that can tell him how science works. That or advised him to STFU and stop bringing his university into disrepute.
          It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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          • LeeG
            Senior Member
            • May 2002
            • 72781

            #6
            Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

            Looks like his qualification is that he's pro-Trump, anti-Left and that the problem with America is that people didn't grow up like him.



            In some ways, Gelernter is a characteristic Trump appointee. He shares the president-elect's bombastic rhetorical style and disdain for elites. In an October op-ed in the Wall Street Journal in which he reluctantly endorsed Trump, Gelernter compared President Obama to a “third-rate tyrant” and called Hillary Clinton a “phony.”

            But he would be an unusual choice for the role of science adviser. If appointed, he would be the first computer scientist to take the job, and the first adviser who is not a member of the National Academy of Sciences. He has expressed doubt about the reality of man-made climate change — something that 97 percent of active researchers agree is a problem. And his anti-intellectualism makes him an outlier among scientists.

            Andrew Rosenberg, director of the Center for Science and Democracy at the Union of Concerned Scientists, said he hadn't heard of Gelernter until Tuesday.

            “He’s certainly not mainstream in the science community or particularly well known,” Rosenberg said. “His views even on most of the key science questions aren't known. Considering the huge range of issues the White House needs to consider, I don’t know if he has that kind of capability.”

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            • Dave Hadfield
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2000
              • 7458

              #7
              Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

              Deliberate wilful intentional ignorance.

              I adored Buzz Aldrin's response to this, and greatly admired the judge's, later.

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              • Iceboy
                Frozen Member
                • Feb 2001
                • 2743

                #8
                Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

                Go Buzz! It should be legal to punch obnoxious a$$hats!
                Originally posted by Dave Hadfield
                Deliberate wilful intentional ignorance.

                I adored Buzz Aldrin's response to this, and greatly admired the judge's, later.

                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZGuRxtUJrw
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                • Arizona Bay
                  Molecules of Freedom
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 6524

                  #9
                  Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

                  Originally posted by Dave Hadfield
                  Deliberate wilful intentional ignorance.

                  I adored Buzz Aldrin's response to this, and greatly admired the judge's, later.

                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZGuRxtUJrw
                  Buzz don't take no sh!t
                  What was the Judge's response?


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                  • Dave Hadfield
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2000
                    • 7458

                    #10
                    Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

                    Actually I see it never made to court. The police determined Buzz was provoked. Charges were not laid.

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                    • George Jung
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 31057

                      #11
                      Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

                      Too bad he didn't follow that overhand right with a left cross.

                      For all the little people.
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                      • Osborne Russell
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 27131

                        #12
                        Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

                        What is computer science scientific about? What is it, beyond engineering and math?
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                        • CWSmith
                          New Hampshire
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 43999

                          #13
                          Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

                          ^ It appears that he develops parallel computing algorithms. It's not science as I see science, but why quibble?
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                          • PeterSibley
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 70993

                            #14
                            Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

                            This is a perfect example of Trump making America a laughing stock around the world .
                            '' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
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                            • Paul Pless
                              pinko commie tree hugger
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 124805

                              #15
                              Re: Trump's Anti-Science Advisor

                              dude survived a unabomber mailbomb
                              and having done so decided to become the douchebag he remains to this day
                              Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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