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He made an interesting victory speech. Sounded a lot like Obama did in in 2008. Promises to bring congress together; good luck. Promised to do a lot of things he'll need congress to do.
Meanwhile, Gingrich goes forward thanks to a generous $5 million donation to his PAC, Huntsman's future depends on Daddy writing a check.
This isn't democracy. This is insanity.
And the Democratic party is different how?Quote:
John Smith; This isn't democracy. This is insanity.
Or is it ALL insanity?
regards,
Waddie
Running true to form, Repubs are well on their way to nominating a stuffed shirt with a constipated mind.
The Democrats won't have Richie Rich at the top of their ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waddie
The Democrats won't have a preditorial business man at the top of their ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waddie
Pragmatically and paradoxically, what the last few years should have taught us is that in the current American political climate, the only party with the potential to "bring Congress together" is the Republicans.
This is not because today's Reps are better at extending a hand across the aisle. It's because the current group of Rep politicians have shown that they simply will not collaborate on meaningful (or even meaningless!) Dem initiatives, period. Despite the poisonous political climate during Bush II's presidency, the Dems in Congress were somewhat more willing to keep the business of government running. We've seen the comparative stats posted on the forum before.
Which is a way of saying that Romney might be right. But if so, he's right for which bring shame to current Rep politicians, rather than credit. And frankly, shouldn't be rewarded.
predatory is the word you're looking for, Chuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuyahoga Chuck
all i can say is go newt, perry, go
class warfare with the republicans is the rich dudes against the richer dude
Thanks but "preditory" isn't a dire enough adjective to describe the likes of Mitt Romney.Quote:
Originally Posted by elf
You are right CC. Obama only has 700 million to spend. He doesn't need Richie Rich.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuyahoga Chuck
Maybe it's time to get a pro-business president in there. The socialist president doesn't seem to be getting anywhere with the economy.
regards,
Waddie
the republicans have hobbled his feet and now complain that obama can't cross the finish line
And so will the Democrats if a Republican gets elected.Quote:
Originally Posted by wardd
BTW; have you forgotten the Blue Dog Democrats?
regards,
Waddie
I followed a hobbled horse for 26 miles one day. Even across streams. If a horse can do it, why not Obama?
metaphor?
Metaphor or not. Used to describe Obama being hobbled as usual by the reps.So I gave a real example where even a hobbled horse can do what Obama can not seem to do.*
It's pretty much all insanity. Come November, it is my prediction that the single biggest issue will be the Citizens United decision. Romney supports corporations being people; Obama does not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waddie
This is an interesting interview http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tu...xrs=share_copy
Take note, please, of the section where the judge says the states cannot violate the constitution; at some point Romney will be asked how the state can mandate buying health insurance but the feds can't. He will also be asked if the exchanges the Affordable Health Care Act will bring don't address the very problem he was addressing Saturday night.
They won't even vote for legislation the author in order to prevent Obama having a victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by TomF
At some point, Romney is going to have to be asked for some specifics as to Obama policies that failed, as opposed to overly optimistic predictions being wrong.
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Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie
I don't think we can imagine the massive amount of money that will be spent this year.
Personally, I think it's wishful thinking and dillusional. They've slowed him down and, in doing so, have slowed growth in our economy down.Quote:
Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie
Think of it as stimulus spending.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Smith
The economy problem isn't only in the US, it's global
Yes, and is that Obama's fault, too?Quote:
Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie
I think my problem is, and the problem many will have is, that all this money could be spent in ways that would stimulate the economy. Just the cash spent in Iowa would fix a few bridges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TomF
Or insulate some homes.
South Carolina will be bloody. There were at least two major employers that Romney divested of employees and a bunch of those guys will be organized by Gingrich and perhaps Ron Paul to follow Mitt around and stick it to him.
If he finds a way to deal directly with people who have been dislocated in our economy and if he doesn't have a confrontational melt-down he'll come out ahead but this is the time when he'll be wishing he had the talent of an Irish hangman.
You know the Irish hangman?
He's there to hang you.
He'll borrow your rope for the job.
And he'll have you thanking him.
could that hobbled horse win the race?Quote:
Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie
Do you know what is involved in hobbling a horse? I think you might as you take care of a few (rumor). If a hobbled horse wins the race, the other horses are more than likely dead, or he is the only horse in the race.
just where is this train wreck of thought going?Quote:
Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie
Yours? I have no idea, tell me.You brought it all up.I did not mention the term "hobbled" you did.Or have you forgotten so soon?
you're graspingQuote:
Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie
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Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...nt.php?ref=fpa
I frankly think that the whole Rep primary process this time out is every bit as pro forma as it was in 2008. All protestations and the last few years' obstructionism aside, in the wee small hours of the night I think that the Rep machine really doesn't want to win in 2012, any more than they really wanted to win in 2008. The country is in a difficult enough position that any President will be smeared by it, regardless of their actual responsibility for it. Much better to run a Primary season which pacifies the competing party sectors, annoints a Candidate who looks somewhat credible, but really can't win, and really target 2012 when (God willing) the economy will be rebounding, and the incoming administration can take credit.Frankly, I couldn't understand why Obama wanted the job in 2008, and entirely understood why the Reps ran McCain/Palin.
Hope you recover soon enough to get back on your mule even with your saddle sores wardd.Quote:
Originally Posted by wardd
you silly manQuote:
Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie