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    03-20-2023, 03:36 PM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Religion's role in The Bilge
    See my comments to Keith. It makes no sense to assume that a prohibition against murder is a uniquely Christian ethic. It predates Christianity and...
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    03-20-2023, 03:31 PM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Religion's role in The Bilge
    I'll mark this on my calendar--we agree! I mean, we agree that religious people do not always have the same right to enact their beliefs into law as...
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    03-20-2023, 03:27 PM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Religion's role in The Bilge
    I think you're missing the point I was trying to make, or I didn't make it clearly enough. An ethical or moral value does not have to be universal to...
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    03-20-2023, 11:41 AM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Religion's role in The Bilge
    I don't think reality backs up your claim in the bolded bit. Do religious people, in fact, have as much right to get their ideas enacted into law as...
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    03-20-2023, 11:30 AM
    No. But it provides an opportunity to do so. And for those cooperatives that do follow the cooperative principles laid out by ICA are doing something...
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    03-20-2023, 12:25 AM
    I'm thinking specifically about organizations organized around the 7 cooperative principles adopted by the International Co-Operative Alliance. Those...
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    03-20-2023, 12:12 AM
    There was both oak and bronze triple-banded around the heart of he who first launched a frail craft on the savage open sea. Horace (Only he...
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    03-20-2023, 12:01 AM
    Very true. The perennial weakness of Western medicine: treat the symptoms, not the cause. Provide the magic pill so we can pretend we don't need to...
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    03-19-2023, 02:14 PM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Religion's role in The Bilge
    As for that bolded bit, much of the hate, fear, and political manipulation is directly connected to religious beliefs that a minority want to impose...
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    03-19-2023, 02:09 PM
    No, no! Money to the wealthy = good. Money to anyone else = bad. Because, Freedom! Tom
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    03-19-2023, 10:59 AM
    More on this note: I'd argue I've been doing a bit of thinking along these lines. Cooperatives can and do work. And they work along...
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    03-19-2023, 10:50 AM
    What, that creating complex systems is hard, and that things often go wrong? And that it's best to start with simple systems, and gradually (one...
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    03-19-2023, 10:41 AM
    That's an odd spin to put on it, though the label appears to have caught on. But it's not "forced" savings--a family could choose to rent and...
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    03-19-2023, 10:24 AM
    I completely agree. I was thinking more of making the process as organized and idiot-proof as possible. Like, for my boat tent, using different...
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    03-19-2023, 08:18 AM
    His writing is too cutesy for me to take much of. I'm not impressed. "The new science of 'systemantics'?" I don't think so. Hardly what I'd call deep...
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    03-19-2023, 08:12 AM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread House or apartment? in The Bilge
    I think you could drop the low end around of your range substantially in the Midwest in many places--a decent home for $150,000 is realistic. It's...
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    03-19-2023, 08:11 AM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread House or apartment? in The Bilge
    Interesting. The U.S. bias toward individualist separate "I gots all my own stuff and my own space" living comes through very clearly on this thread....
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    03-19-2023, 05:54 AM
    Well, I had a quick look at John Gall's "Systems Bible." Reviews are quite mixed from the little I saw. I didn't come away thinking it was a...
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    03-19-2023, 03:37 AM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread House or apartment? in The Bilge
    I'm living in a tiny apartment in Poland, after 21 years in a house in a small town. The apartment is good for urban life, very simple and...
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    03-19-2023, 03:21 AM
    Thanks for the comment--I think it's fair to say that the Thirty Thousand Islands is my favorite cruising ground so far. By quite a large margin,...
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    03-19-2023, 01:22 AM
    No. What I believe is that you have an extremely limited understanding of what life is like for people without lots and lots of money. Tom
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    03-19-2023, 01:19 AM
    Nope, I sold my bicycle before moving to Poland. Tom
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    03-19-2023, 01:12 AM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Trump is Toast in The Bilge
    I disagree. The rule of law needs to be shown to work. Trump needs to be tried, and if found guilty, he needs to be punished, and to be seen to be...
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    03-19-2023, 01:08 AM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Religion's role in The Bilge
    No. But people are quite commonly forced to act as if they believe specific religious things. During military basic training, it was noticed that...
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    03-19-2023, 01:03 AM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Religion's role in The Bilge
    Uh... Doesn't catch-and-release use barbless hooks? Tom
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    03-19-2023, 01:02 AM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Religion's role in The Bilge
    But if elected officials in the U.S. craft legislation that respects an establishment of religion--a law that presupposes the legitimacy of their...
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    03-19-2023, 12:37 AM
    If you were me, your next project would be finding a way to remember the proper steps, the gear you need, and what order to do things in, to make...
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    03-18-2023, 03:07 PM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Trump is Toast in The Bilge
    The protections are not really intended for the protection of the individual ex-president. They are likely intended to protect what he knows, which...
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    03-18-2023, 12:45 PM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Trump is Toast in The Bilge
    Maybe. I'm hoping not. I'm hoping it's the Republican Party that fits that label. Tom
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    03-18-2023, 12:25 PM
    WI-Tom replied to a thread Cameras are everywhere in The Bilge
    I'm with you on this one, Paul. I can think of many examples. Tom
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