View Full Version : Folkboat gets a new hatch
BarnacleGrim
07-12-2009, 12:30 PM
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/gcopc/over.png http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/gcopc/under.png
Drawn according to Buehler specs. I will add some mouldings on the sides to keep water out, since the previous owner reversed the hatch runners. I figured that's easier than making new runners to fit the curvature of the cabin roof.
Buehler calls for plywood, epoxy and glass cloth, but I'd like to finish it bright instead, to match the forward hatch. How about strip planking instead of plywood for the top?
Construction will start once I've cleaned up my shop.
Peerie Maa
07-12-2009, 01:02 PM
Why not one layer of plywood and then cold mould the top layer?
BarnacleGrim
07-12-2009, 01:25 PM
I guess I could even veneer the whole thing and eliminate the end grain altogether. I have some oak veneer laying around for something like that.
Why not one layer of plywood and then cold mould the top layer?
I used the existing hatch when i restored Pipsqueak. It was plywood sheathed with glass. I removed the glass, and replaced it with new glass/epoxy. Then I glued teak strips over that to match the rest of the teak on the boat. Sorry the photo's not very clear but it shows the overall idea. Rick
http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr69/rfnk/Pip5.jpg
skaraborgcraft
01-17-2010, 01:38 PM
I have a 1949 Nordic called "LOVISA",built outside of stockholm and now based in Hjo. Her hatch is of tounge-in-groove mahogany with a portlight in top. A ply hatch would probably be stiffer and more stable,and you could always glue decorative timber on top.
BarnacleGrim
01-17-2010, 03:25 PM
Writing this from a canal in Belgium, I'm not in a position to work on the boat for a while. I might make new runners and design a new hatch, but first I'll rip out the interior and fix all those frames and those garboards before doing all the exterior detailing.
Edit: Oh, and I almost forgot. Welcome to the club! We're a whole bunch of Nordic folks here. Rick, Kerry, Alex, Manu, myself...
Pull up a chair, pour yourself a drink and make a brand new thread for your boat, with plenty of pictures!
skaraborgcraft
01-17-2010, 04:14 PM
when i get the chance to orginise my pics,i will try to post online,though i dont know how yet. I have been using "lovisa", for a few years,but she has been laid up for a season for some plank repairs. Hope to re-launch this year. There is some great information on these thtreads i have been browsing here for some years,thought it was about time to say hello.
Peter Malcolm Jardine
01-17-2010, 05:00 PM
If you use a cold mould veneer over plywood, you can do anything you want really. I've posted this before, but I built this hatch for the front deck of Vanora, my Chris craft cruiser, it is a african mahogany frame with a ply inset, then crotch mahogany, bosse pommele and zebrawood in the compass rose and surrounding inlay. It was glued down with epoxy, overcoated with two coats of clear, then varnished...It has stood up very very well. You can use any veneer you want, and make it as simple or as complex a design as you care to.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/nanzep/Vanora/100.jpg?t=1263765512
peter radclyffe
01-17-2010, 05:23 PM
thats beautiful Peter
skaraborgcraft
01-18-2010, 06:45 AM
looks more like an antique table top than a forehatch! Stunning bit of inlay!
skaraborgcraft
01-18-2010, 06:49 AM
Just noticed your location.....i travel every time on Tor Selandia!!
BarnacleGrim
01-18-2010, 04:34 PM
That's what I thought when I read that you went to the UK to pick up lumber with your Landrover - "That guy should travel on Tor Line" :)
floatingkiwi
01-20-2010, 01:55 AM
If you use a cold mould veneer over plywood, you can do anything you want really. I've posted this before, but I built this hatch for the front deck of Vanora, my Chris craft cruiser, it is a african mahogany frame with a ply inset, then crotch mahogany, bosse pommele and zebrawood in the compass rose and surrounding inlay. It was glued down with epoxy, overcoated with two coats of clear, then varnished...It has stood up very very well. You can use any veneer you want, and make it as simple or as complex a design as you care to.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/nanzep/Vanora/100.jpg?t=1263765512
I get jealous when I see work like this. Where do you find the time to do all that intricate stuff?
Peter Malcolm Jardine
01-20-2010, 04:18 AM
At least new build smaller jobs are finite... starting to take apart old boats seems the opposite.:D
P.L.Lenihan
01-20-2010, 04:52 AM
Hi BarnacleGrim,
To answer your question, yes you certainly could do your hatch out of plywood and have a nice varnished outside over-lay.....maybe not as nice as PMJ's but you could use that as something to aspire to,if you're up to it. :)
Or, keep it simple, epoxy and 'glass the works and up-keep will be minimal.
The hatch inspired from Beuhler really needs the end grain of the plywood sealed and protected.
Here's a hatch I built on my last boat, Three laminates of 1/8" luan set in epoxy and covered with some 10oz fiberglass cloth.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0df01b3127ccef97c54ae434800000050O02BauGzJmyZA9 vPgo/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
Cheers!
Peter
Candyfloss
01-20-2010, 05:44 AM
Don't want to be a wet blanket, but beautiful veneer work like that is best kept indoors. Out in the open, once it fades there is no fixing it. Don't ask me how I know this.
P.L.Lenihan
01-20-2010, 05:55 AM
Those were in the good old days .....we have the technology now to make stuff like this last forever....I think .
Cheers!
Peter
floatingkiwi
01-20-2010, 06:36 AM
At least new build smaller jobs are finite... starting to take apart old boats seems the opposite.:D
You know, I don't like emoticons and if you cared to check, you will find I have never used one in the entire time I have been posting here. Two reasons. One being I believe that the English language should able to be grasped and translated through writing adequately without them and two, it enables people to dish out wisecrack remarks to others and then make it look like they are," Just Kidding", with that goofy lookin' green grinning face.
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floatingkiwi
01-20-2010, 06:53 AM
But then, there is a first time for everything.:D
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