Help - Stop me before I restore again (Winthrop Warner)

[Concordia..41]

So twice in as many weeks we've been offered a Winthrop Warner designed sailboat :eek: tongue.gif

Location = Charleston

Length = 28' (approx)

Condition = Unknown (and certainly doubtful)

Built in 20's or 30's

Synopsis of offer 'My daughter's not taking care of/doesn't have time, etc....I'd give her to someone that'd fix it up and take care of it'

After the first conversation, our interest was peaked, but neither Dave nor I could remember any of the details. The guy was back at the boat yard today and Dave wrote down Winthrop Warner. After we got the spelling right, Google turned out dozens of hits including a good bit in the Rudder and Woodenboat Publications no less!!!

Anyone got WB March/April '87 (issue #75) handy?

Can anybody say ROAD TRIP!!!!!! :D

[ 10-29-2003, 07:49 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[skuthorp]

Sigh, You sure have it bad! I succesfully resisted a late 30's Chris Craft type cruiser a week or so back. I really dont want a vroom vroom! But if a sailbout in similar condition came up, who knows??
I find the best method is not to look for one, but if it's offered???, well I dont know then. :confused: :confused:

[ 10-29-2003, 08:35 PM: Message edited by: skuthorp ]

[Donn]

If you look at and listen to sources for restorations, you have no one to blame but yourself. (I also have Roger to blame. :D )

[Doug Wood]

I just love the lines of the Winthrop Warner boats I've seen pictures of. I know that builder Paul Luke up here in Maine (rest his soul) built a number of Warner designed boats in the 40's, early 50's. Just looked at the Luke site and appears he built a 28 footer (sloop) in 1946 by the name of SUSAN. You don't suppose...nah! Anyway, best of luck.

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

Hey!... You should make a list of boat yards along the way and stop at say.... 20 to 30 of them...and see what is hanging out there. No doubt there are quite a few old wooden boats that are great candidates for restoration, and probably available at a fantastic, you can't deny, fix em up, knock em down price!!!! :D You could collect them all, then rent a great bigass flat bed truck, HELL A FLEET OF TRUCKS!! :eek: and load em up and put em all in your drive way...THEN YOU COULD BUILD A GIANT POST AND BEAM GARAGE!!! AND PUT ALL OF THEM UNDER COVER, AND GRADUALLY FILL IN THE SIDES!!! ;)

If you looked carefully in publications advertising the mechanical systems from demolished buildings, you could probably find a large boiler and rads, and heat this building... BOY :cool: >> YOU could convert the boiler to run on wood, and use the old wood from these boats to fuel the heating system maybe??? Man, I bet that would save PILES of money.

IF you're lucky, I bet that 28 will be just the beginning of a new career. You'll have rotten old wooden boats COMING OUT YOUR YANGOLIE!!! and you can work on them 24/7 tongue.gif

Well, I sure know what I would be doing with my retirement savings!!! You'll make millions, and have lots of time to sail all these restored lovelies that you want to keep, after you have sold the ones you've ALREADY FINISHED AND MADE HUUUUUUUGE PROFITS ON!!! :cool:
HEY!! Let me know how it goes, and maybe we can develop a rotten wooden boat COMMUNE!!! We will all live at your house and fix wooden junk, and SMOKE TEAK DUST!! and live in harmony and LOVE!! :confused: tongue.gif

[Donn]

ROFLMAO!! Fix-a boat, Fix-a boat, Fix-a boat,.
Repeat after me..Fix-a boat,Fix-a boat,!

[L.W. Baxter]

Peter, you're harshing the mellow down at the commune. We all took a vote and decided that you need to chill out man, and we should also make some of that cheese fondue...

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

I'm just jealous that Margo and Dave are getting all the perks :D

I wish someone would offer me old rotten wooden boats.. no, really, I really do. :rolleyes: tongue.gif :D

See, it's worse than that, someone is offering me an old classic fix me up ummm ... ahhh fibreglass boat.. :eek:

[JimD]

A couple months ago I couldn't wait for my next door neighbour to offer me a rotten old boat so I got up the courage to ask him for it. He was more than happy to oblige. Now I have a rotten old boat of my very own under a tarp in the back yard. Swmbo wants to know how long its going to be there.

[Johannah]

Now that I have recovered from a choking fit brought on by hysterical laughter, it's time to throw down the domestic gauntlet. How many of you goofs have a rotten old boat in the living room with odd bits stacked in a corner of the kitchen (behind the large loppers)? Hah, gotcha. Naturally I do. Plus we really did live collectively long ago. So there. :D

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

HAHAHEEAHAHOHOHHAH :D AHHHEEHEHEHHOHOHHAHAH :D HAHAHHHEHEHOHOHEEHAHHA :eek: :D
Oh JimD, thats a good one... YOUR WIFE WANTS TO KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO BE THERE!!!!!! :rolleyes:

HEEHEHEAHAHH :eek: HAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA :D
Tell her to watch some old KUNG FU EPISODES, with the grasshopper and the stone being snatched from the old man's hand and stuff!! tongue.gif

[ 10-30-2003, 04:36 AM: Message edited by: Peter Malcolm Jardine ]

[Dave K]

Back to the original message - you did not say what design by Warner this was/is - he did a very nice boat design that became known as the "Cambridge Cadet" - hard to find anything much better in the size range for cruising in. If that is what you have found, it might be worth a fair bit of work to get her back in shape again. I sailed with a very nice family aboard their Cadet (named "Sea Legs") in Nova Scotia back in the early 1970's - they had sailed her up from New York and we had a couple of really enjoyable days in her. I was and am impressed with that design. Good luck...

[Wild Dingo]

Originally posted by Concordia..41:
So twice in as many weeks we've been offered a Winthrop Warner designed sailboat :eek: tongue.gif

Can anybody say ROAD TRIP!!!!!! :D ROAD TRIP!!!

Damn it I will say it again...

ROAD TRIP!!!! :cool:

aawww flamin eck mates even flamin Jeff Skuthorps been offered a fixemupper!! I want mine!!! :mad:

oops just membered I gots one!!! mmm can anyone hear wanna nuther!!! ;) :D

WB #75?? hang on a tic gonna have a sticky beak!
oooooohhhhhhh shat!!! Margo and Dave get flamin goin... ROAD FLAMIN TRIP!!!! man I love that Snapper Blue II {roadtrip}... strewth real nice {roadtrip} and Walrus okay its a powerboat but {roadtrip} Carl J fishin boat {roadtrip} back to sail boats Rowdy II {roadtrip} Mandalay would be around this boats size at 25'9 LOA {roadtrip} Yankee Girl III turns me gronicles on {roadtrip} man that fella can oops could design!!

Margo... I will say again ROADFLAMINTRIP!!! I dont care how you manage it with Dave I mean varnish his bum to the seat whatever it takes but get there and have a gander!!! Roadtrip!!! ooooh an PLEEEESE dont forget the damned camera!

oooh hows your baby going? time for an update yet?? :cool:

[ 02-21-2004, 10:00 PM: Message edited by: Wild Dingo ]

[Concordia..41]

As to the Winthrop Warner, it's still there. No road trip yet. Frankly we haven't hit a lick on Sarah in 4 months. :eek:

For the third year in a row we pretty much shut down the "Sarah Project" back in November for family stuff, holiday gatherings, and the like.

This year was complicated by a new house and a move in December. "Hisself" is in the workshop/er garage - (what am I thinking, we've lived here three months and my car hasn't crossed the threshold, so it's not a garage)
as we speak putting the finishing touches on a computer desk for yours truly. We had two store-bought computer desks blotched up side by side at the old house, so I thought it'd be nice to build in a nice unit in a corner...

Well...it's L-shaped 44" by 11' with ten drawers (not counting keyboard trays at both 30" workstations) and a two shelf cabinet for storing paper, supplies, etc.

Today he planned the boards for the matching bookshelves and hutch....

Well, it sounded like a good idea a month ago....

And I'm afraid to tell him how good a matching entertainment center would look on the other side of the doorway. :D

We had planned to get back on Sarah March 1st, but it's more like April 1 at this rate - I was too depressed to open Burnadette and David's latest pictures :(

[Jason Miller]

Couldnt resist posting a pic of my Winthrop Warner Yawl. Its a 1947 built by Paul Luke. I have been assembling her for 6 months and tomorrow she goes on her first sail in 20 years! http://www.geocities.com/africanexplorer/sailboat.jpg

[imported_Steven Bauer]

Wow! Tell us more about her Jason.

Steven

[Jason Miller]

Steven

For years this boat sat at a marina on a lake I frequently sailed in Fort Worth. The owner before me bought it up in Main and trucked it down spending 4 years restoring the hull and interior. I was told it sat for 15 years in storage in Main. He later purchased some land along the Texas gulf and found that the boat drafted too much to use at his land. He purchased another boat with shallower draft and moved it down there.

I guess there was a lot of tension with his wife about the time and money he spent on this boat and he had sold his house in Fort Worth so he placed it on the lake. Unfortunately once safely tucked in the slip he didn’t realize it had a leak at the rudder shaft. Needless to say she went down and the bill to have it brought up caused him to “donate’ it to a non profit org in California.

They placed in on eBay and I was thrilled to win the auction. The eBay seller was very rude and wouldn’t tell anyone where it was. Fortunately I recognized the picture and new it was this boat.

All the rigging was in boxes or missing and I have spent months researching on the net how to rig a yawl. It’s been a challenge and today I hung the staysail which was the last sail. Tomorrow I will mount the winches and hopefully take her out in the afternoon.

As far as the leak, she still leaks pretty badly around the rudder shaft. I am on a lake with only one crane that can lift it and a jerk that handles that crane. I hope to actually remove it from the lake in the fall and will fix the leak when on a trailer. As for now I have two bilge pumps and since I live on the lake check her daily.

[Wild Dingo]

Alright thats not showing for me Jas mate reckon you could toss her up from shutterfly.com cause Id seriously like to see her :cool: ... when Steven drools like that I take note! :D

Thanks
Shane :cool:

[imported_Steven Bauer]

Shane, I had to right click the red x, click properties, then copy the address(url) to the browser address bar. Once you see the piccie you'll know it was worth the trouble.

Steven

[Jason Miller]

Lets see if this works http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4dc04b3127cceb9692d78b6a50000001610

Here is a pic from late 40's
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4dc04b3127cceb9692d6ab6b70000001610

[Concordia..41]

Uh oh!!

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

That's a lovely boat Jason... good on you ;)