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Rum_Pirate
06-22-2009, 07:08 PM
I believe that the passenger security screening is done solely to placate the more timid 'Joe Public' individuals.

I believe that it does not deter individuals determined to hijack/damage/etc an aircraft. Those will find a way to get whatever they want aboard.

If you are really really serious about such security, simple every day items like pencils would have to be banned. A pencil in the eardrum can kill if thrust in hard.

Why after passing through security can you board aircraft and be served meals with stainless steel cutlery (I had this on Air France)?

Why after passing through security are you allowed to board aircraft with Duty Free bottles, which you can make into extremely dangerous weapons by breaking them?

Etc etc . . . .

brad9798
06-22-2009, 07:12 PM
You are 100% correct!

Captain Intrepid
06-22-2009, 07:21 PM
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

Like the no fly list, it's just a way of being seen to do something by the drooling masses. I'm sure there's plently of simple folk out there who believe they are safer when some fellow confiscates their fingernail clippers and hauls away every third brown person boarding a plane to be strip searched.

Flying Orca
06-22-2009, 07:35 PM
Security theatre is cheaper than security, and the odds that anyone with actual power will be held accountable for something bad happening between "now" (for suitable values of now) and the next election are quite low.

mmd
06-22-2009, 07:37 PM
I became particularly cranky when, after waiting for two hours to board a flight in Newark bound for Washington DC (don't get me started on what transpired before I got on the plane!) and after being informed that we would be delayed in departure for another hour (yes, a whole frikkin' hour on that crowded, hot plane, just sittin' there at the gate), and after they informed us that we could enjoy some adult beverages while we waited for take-off (Bless them), and after being midway through my second ale, I arose to go potty, I was told:

"Sorry, sir. You must remain in your seat until we are ready to deplane in Washington."

WTF??!!!

Make us wait. Make us frustrated. Make us thirsty. Feed us beer. Then tell us we have to hold it for another hour or more?

Now that is the friendly skies of America...

willmarsh3
06-22-2009, 07:42 PM
Michael was that back when they had the rule that one had to stay seated for 30 minutes before landing if going to Washington DC? Some of the rules are quite stupid indeed.

Phillip Allen
06-22-2009, 08:10 PM
what moron dreams up those rules?

SBrookman
06-22-2009, 08:32 PM
Be thankful that no terrorist tried to smuggle a bomb in his pants or in addition to no shoes, no liquids we'd all be butt naked thru security.

Phillip Allen
06-22-2009, 09:00 PM
Be thankful that no terrorist tried to smuggle a bomb in his pants or in addition to no shoes, no liquids we'd all be butt naked thru security.
pity the poor guy who had to sit next to me...ugh...

LeeG
06-22-2009, 09:36 PM
and after they informed us that we could enjoy some adult beverages while we waited for take-off (Bless them), and after being midway through my second ale, I arose to go potty, I was told:

"Sorry, sir. You must remain in your seat until we are ready to deplane in Washington."

WTF??!!!

Make us wait. Make us frustrated. Make us thirsty. Feed us beer. Then tell us we have to hold it for another hour or more?

Now that is the friendly skies of America...


"my dear, I have more than one beers worth of urine in my bladder, should you be so kind to bring me a water pitcher then you can transport it to the watercloset!"

Tylerdurden
06-23-2009, 04:14 AM
Having the opportunity to interact with these a-holes I can tell you security is worse than it was before. It all looks good when one is boarding a plane but beyond that its an illusion. Having worked at two of the Airports the supposed Hi jackers left from both before an after I can say it was easier to get past them as a worker now than it was.
At one airport now I don't show any id and carry my tools right in. No search no nothing.
They get a dishwasher or waitress to walk me into the secure area right outside under the planes boarding and into the back of the food area. So does all the other vendors. After a couple of visits they gave me the door codes and I walked unescorted like most of the other vendors. Now there are stairs both ways so if I have to haul any equipment on a cart I have to go through the secure area with the passengers. Again no issue other than they are pissed that someone has to open the double doors.
Its just stupid really but stupid people buy this illusion and like Sesame street its all for them.

UCanoe_2
06-23-2009, 05:37 AM
The real purpose of all these antics is habituating people to doing meaningless stupid stuff, so it will be easier for the government to get people to do more meaningless stupid stuff. It's all about controlling the citizens. In the past nobody would have tolerated such nonsense.

seanz
06-23-2009, 05:50 AM
In the past nobody would have tolerated such nonsense.

Oh, I dunno........there's been some pretty stupid things in the past.

I've just done my turn through airport security for the next little while, it's a charade. I didn't take it seriously....neither did security.

exlimey
06-23-2009, 07:43 AM
For me it was just easier to quit flying altogether. After being asked for my boarding pass three times in a space of about 30 feet and finally once more to be able to climb a flight of stairs to the aircraft, my Wife and I had just about had it with Miami,s B/S security. My fuse is quite long; but i came close to losing it that time. Unless there a bridge or a tunnel i aint going!