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Shrimperchuck
09-20-2005, 11:09 PM
Say, Fellow Salty Dogs!
I was just scanning the forum and came across this thang about the Non-skid deck delema!
I've been a commercial fisherman for the better part of thirty years and have worked boats in every body of sea that surrounds us here in the Good-ole US of A, and I got-ta tell ya-all that to get the best abrasive coating out there, just go to the store and get ya a box of Gritts!
Yep, them little white suckers that some folks find Tasty.
The Deal is that which ever you've heard such as sand, gravel er ground-up walnuts shell, well that stuff doesn't absorb the Paint, Jel-coat er which-ever coating trips yer switch.
Gritts do!
So when yer stirin yer coating, add a box of gritts (Larger boats may need two boxes) when the coating dries, them gritts have swole up and become apart of the coating. That other crap just gets held in-place, and tends to chip off with wear and tare.
I've wore out lots-a deck shoes and shrimp boots on them gritts, but aint never had them chip loose before the vessal needed a new paint job!
And the last time I had ta get me some gritts, them suckers where less than a Buck a Box! charleybruns@cableone.net

Ken Hutchins
09-21-2005, 07:03 AM
Well I tell ya that's the best suggestion on this forum in a long time. smile.gif The best part is it is a use for the grits, I don't care what them southern folks think , that stuff ain't fit to eat. :D

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
09-21-2005, 07:20 AM
Shhhhhhh deep dark secret ... this New Yawker loves grits with cheese. YUM :D

JimConlin
09-21-2005, 08:26 AM
In these parts, grits are only correct if con queso or avec fromage

;)

Wild Dingo
09-21-2005, 09:15 AM
So enlighten one from the underside what the hell are gritts??

pipefitter
09-21-2005, 09:17 AM
girls raised in the south

paladin
09-21-2005, 09:22 AM
Shane...Imagine corn kernals that have been soaked in acid, dried, then ground up into a corn meal....then boiled and served as food......disgusting.....and I izz a Suthrin Boy...

Alan D. Hyde
09-21-2005, 11:38 AM
Lye, Chuck.

Soaked in lye.

But, I DO agree with your conclusion... :D

Alan

Bruce Hooke
09-21-2005, 11:47 AM
An old family friend who grew up in Louisiana claimed that, as pronounced where he came from, "grits" is the only 5 letter, 4 syllable word in the English language. :D

Bob Smalser
09-21-2005, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Alan D. Hyde:
Lye, Chuck.

Soaked in lye.

But, I DO agree with your conclusion... :D

AlanWell, if ya ever have to eat powdered eggs, then mixing them with grits, salt and canned butter ain't bad at all along side your creamed dried cod or creamed chipped beef over hard tack. Along with fresh cowboy (boiled) coffee from a 30-gallon pot, of course....and if the mess sergeant was in a good mood, perhaps sweet rolls baked from canned bread dough, sugar and frosting. ;)

The Old Army used to call them "B-Rations"....dried rations in #10 tin cans. An acquired taste, but much, much better at sticking to the ribs in a cold, wet dawn than the new MRE's.

I do miss creamed cod.

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paladin
09-21-2005, 11:59 AM
Yes Alan..I knowed it wuz lye....
and Bob....1965....sitting on the docks in NhaTrang....and opening yure C-Rats and finding a pack of Luckies with a GREEN emblem has gotta be right up there with "B" rats......
...and besides...tonight I make Conch Fritters....

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JimConlin
09-21-2005, 01:03 PM
Who's got the stomach to tell Shane about lutefisk?

Ack
09-21-2005, 01:45 PM
For you Northerners, there are two kinds of grits, hominy (field corn) and white hybrid corn. The old style hominy grits were indeed soaked in lye to remove the bran and then rinsed several times, but most grits now days are simply milled white corn. Cooked with butter, salt and pepper they are very tasty, especially with eggs, bacon or sausage. Most folks who disparage grits don't know how to prepare them. The same can be said about cream of wheat-- if simply boiled, it's not much good, but add some butter and maple syrup and then you've got something.

Alan D. Hyde
09-21-2005, 01:51 PM
Corn meal mush, or fried mush, are better though.

With butter and molasses or maple syrup...

FULL of vitamins... :D

Alan

Terry Etapa
09-21-2005, 02:02 PM
Bob - I'd rather have a green runny scrambled egg sandwich made with the bread, from the bottom of a mermite after all the bacon has been served, then eat grits!

Finally, a use for grits other than food.

Bob Smalser
09-21-2005, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Terry Etapa:
Bob - I'd rather have a green runny scrambled egg sandwich made with the bread, from the bottom of a mermite after all the bacon has been served, than eat grits!

You know I have an original, uncut '62 Ford M151 sitting under a tarp waiting for me to get at it some day, dontcha?

May have been your jeep. ;)

Paulyboy
09-21-2005, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by JimConlin:
In these parts, grits are only correct if con queso or avec fromage

;) Yo tengo mucho queso en mi bolsa para ti. Y juevos y jamon tambien. Pero no me gusto los "grits".
Although, since you mention the french version of with cheese, Alton Brown, of the Food network sez that there is only the difference of language between southern grits and Italian polenta.
So if grits are a buck a box and playground sand, (cleaned, sifted, sorted, sized and sanitized) is about 8 bucks for 100 lbs, why not the sand again?

Ethan
09-21-2005, 03:22 PM
Dingo! You really are a yank!! That's the same questions the yankees over here ask too?!?

Tristan
09-21-2005, 03:43 PM
DAMMITALLTOHELL! Y'all don't lak grits? Sheeeiiit! I always knowd y'all Yankees'd suck eggs an' bark at the moon! Buttered grits, two fried aggs, bacon, and buttered toast, now thay's a damn breakfast. Down here thay's buttered grits, turnip greens, drop biscuits an' a batch of fried mullet. Or, if'en it's down around Matecumbe or Long Key just take a skiff out and ketch a mess o' grunts. Fried grunts (rolled in cornmeal) taste mighty good with grits. You come on down to south Florida Dingo. Have some grits with some conchs or some good ol' mullet fishermen. Don't waste yore time with no Yankees that eat that scrapple while they turning up their nose at grits!

capt jake
09-21-2005, 04:51 PM
Hmmm, I may be way off base here, but this sure looks like a troll thread to me. 1 post, he is based in Nampa ID and yet is an active commercial fisherman?? Add to this, the fact that the thread went a totally different direction than the original intent.

sdowney717
09-21-2005, 04:58 PM
Post number one and a troll post as well.

Here is a source for an effective industrial modern coating for soft slip resistant decks.
http://www.durabak.com/

joejapan
09-21-2005, 06:56 PM
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Had been chasin' this lovely little Japanese lady for a month or so. She loved eating different foods at authentic ethnic restaurants up in Tokyo. I mean, I ate Indian, Tibetan, Afghani,Egyptian, Nepalese,you get the idea......

One Saturday she called, all excited, to tell me she found a truly authentic African restaurant up in Ginza(probably the most expensive place in the world). I, of course, told her to make reservations and we'd go.

We went, it was incredibly expensive, so I ordered the least expensive item on the menu...still $48 but what the hell; authentic, original, native African food, yeah !

When my plate arrived, there, sitting in all of it's expensive spendor, was left-over fried GRITS !

Shrimperchuck
09-21-2005, 10:54 PM
What a bunch a crap I stired up with a helpful hint, Jeez-az H Christ!
And I don't eat the suckers, I said "Some find them tasty" I mix the crap with jel-coat fer Non-skid deck surfaces(Period)
as far as bein in Idaho, well that is a tad long of a Fish-tail! I will say this though, I Fished untill that new Virus called "Environmentalists" effected all the coastal waters in the US of A, worked out of Dutch Harbor and Cordova Alaska in 2001, Ft Myers Beach Florida in 2002. In Florida got my mug shot in the papers over that Black Water crap that's been killin all the Sea life out in their waters.
If yer interested in that, Go to naplesnews.com, seek out there archives and type in "commercial fishermen demand answers to 'Black Water Mystery'" and you'll get the **** on that. With then ENVIRONMENTALISTS, and gettin infected do to the crap in the ocean,and in june of 2002 I fell over-board and spent the night feelin like Fish Food so after all crap I had ta toss in the towel...
Forbes reasently wrote a bunch of good **** about Boise Idaho, and guess what? They told the truth! There is work every where here, so I work on land and deal with the mundane issues that the mass's have been dealin with while I was out fishin. Still don't make as much as I use ta, but I aint workin at Wally-World either!
And I'll always miss the Sea, But I Been There And Done That fer the Better Part of Thirty Friggin Years!!!! Where You Been, Huh?
Looks like some a you actually Eat Gritts! Met some Gooks down in Sabean Pass S. Tejas, them litter people put fish-heads in there Gritts, Mayhaps that's tasty also, I wouldn't know or care. I use the crap in my Deck Paint only!!!!!
Later

Tristan
09-23-2005, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by MIke:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Don't waste yore time with no Yankees that eat that scrapple while they turning up their nose at grits! Don't be yanking his chain now. ;) Scrapple, now there is some mighty fine stuff sliced and fried as a slab of fried grease. tongue.gif The next thing to that is chittlings.</font>[/QUOTE]Awl rite, dammit, you got me. I've et scrapple (with some syrup poured over hit) an' I LIKE it! (Hate to admit that!)

Gary E
09-23-2005, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Tristan:
[QUOTE] I've et scrapple (with some syrup poured over hit) an' I LIKE it! (Hate to admit that!)What your seem to be admiting to is liking the SYRUP... NOBODY actully like's scrapple by it's self... smile.gif

But never pass up a Philly Cheesesteak.. smile.gif

Shrimperchuck
09-23-2005, 09:08 PM
Hey Mike when ya check it , tell them Yo-Yo's what ya think! Alright.
you'll see it works.

pipefitter
09-23-2005, 10:56 PM
He's right...heard about the grits trick here in Florida a long time ago. Englewood,Florida to be exact along with mixing cayenne pepper in with the antifouling paint to prolong it's effectivness.But they are sure good to eat as well and amongst all the fish and grits posts I can't believe noone mentioned sweetened iced tea which goes with everything here in the south.

Also...grits are supposedly a sure non poisonous way to get rid of fire ants by pouring them in and around the ant mounds.

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Shrimperchuck
09-23-2005, 11:04 PM
Hey pipefitter
Ever been to the "K' Bouy Just north of "Fort Jefferson

Rick Tyler
09-24-2005, 12:07 AM
Southerners: We love grits. Yankees are dumb!

Northerners: Grits stink. Southerners are dumb!

Westerners: Suns up. Grills on. Have a beer!

- Rick

joejapan
09-24-2005, 01:23 AM
.....and stand out in the drizzeling rain eating soggy food, watching the rain put out the fire on a cold, cloudy, summer day.

Ho hum, another ****ty day in paradise.......Seattle ?

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pipefitter
09-24-2005, 01:54 AM
If I have ShrimperChuck,I wouldn't know it by name. We never had gps or compass but could tell by the lights which city was home and never paid much attention to maps and such. Sure did alot of fishing for grouper from there all the way to tortugas and I dont care to see another grouper as long as I live. Ft Myers was bright as was Sarasota,Venice was less bright than Sarasota and Boca Grande was less than Ft Myers...Ewood was in the middle of those smile.gif

joejapan
09-24-2005, 03:09 AM
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Hey Pipefitter.......this one's for you ! :D

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http://static.flickr.com/33/46033824_454d0e5ee8.jpg?v=0

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Sorry, couldn't resist.....! tongue.gif

joejapan
09-24-2005, 03:28 AM
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Shrimpchucker, you ever see the weather baloon " Fat Albert " out West of Big Pine ?
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http://www.bootkeyharbor.com/images/FatAlbert.jpg
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I had to work with the Feds down there for several months quite a few years back.

Man, that thing goes way up high !

pipefitter
09-24-2005, 08:05 AM
That must have been some years ago...dont see or hear of many that big these days. I remember a 340 lb goliath grouper dragging me and a buddy around boca grande pass for about 6 hrs in a little 15ft open tri-hull....back then we got .80/lb for it. Now the goliaths are off limits.That is one big grouper in the photo for sure. With the Goliath we caught we were fishing for tarpon with small pass crabs.We had to tow it in behind the boat thinking any second a hammerhead would make a meal of it.It isn't at all the same down there anymore with all the snowbirds taking over.That and everyone's a captain these days. Definitely have never caught a grouper that big even on the commercial boat.Must've been eating grits and cornbread. smile.gif

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GROOVY
09-24-2005, 08:29 AM
So ...... yall eat :boiled, ground leftover pig scraps with cornmeal and spices thrown in......scrapple
and say you do not like grits?

pipefitter
09-24-2005, 08:38 AM
That's correct but unfortunately non politically correct as they dont allow us to call them that anymore.Is that a black grouper in the photo? I would think so because of it's size but the markings and color are gone understandably.Smallest jewfish i ever caught was 75 lbs. Saw some off the phosphate docks that could have half swallowed me and never dared to shoot one.

Shrimperchuck
09-24-2005, 10:53 AM
Hey Pipe!
The "K" Bouy and Ft Jeff are 75 miles due West of Key West. The Dry tortugas by name on yer charts(if ya got any)!
Fort Jefferson is a massive Brick structure that originally was built as a Prison during the Civil War. Their most Famous Guest, way back when, was James Booth, the guy that did Honest Abe! http//:floridakeys.com/parks/jefferson.htm
Right next to this Island, there is another that houses a small contingent of the Coast Guard. Them fellers can play a pretty mean game a Football on Beach, Just don't take yer eyes off-in the football(Cocanut), ya don't wanna git hit in head with the sucker!
Any how; The fort is a Happenin place, Once while anchored up 10 miles Southwest a the Fort, we Found some Yeah-who that had rented a Jet sky in Key West, wanted to go see the Fort, took 0ff without a compass, water, er much a nothing! Frickin Nut missed the Fort, But got lucky that day! We saw the guy, got him on-board, Hydrated his Dumb-ass and took him to the Fort! Guy had two inches of caked dry Salt all over his self. Not any gas left, and a Burn that would hurt you just ta look at! Damn Yankee, Should-a tried the Gritts, Ya reacon?
If ya aint got yer Boat tuned up, ya can git there by Sea-plane. One does the trip twice a Day. P.S. Drinking IS allowed, the Travel Brochure even suggests ya bring extra Booze to trade with the Fishermen in the area!
Is an Extreme worthy weekend Boat Trip!

Shrimperchuck
09-24-2005, 11:01 AM
http//:floridakeys.com/parks/jefferson.htm

Shrimperchuck
09-24-2005, 12:58 PM
been tryin to get the sucker on here, @$%$^%$# thang's fixin ta get chunked over-board!!!!!!!!!!!
enter : fort jefferson, florida at the google search prompt. That'll get ya all the crap on Fort Jeff!

Bill Perkins
09-24-2005, 01:17 PM
I thought it was Dr. Mudd , who set J W Booth's leg ,who was incarcerated there .

pcford
09-24-2005, 01:28 PM
I thought it was Dr. Mudd , who set J W Booth's leg ,who was incarcerated there .

You are correct. Shrimperchuck's command of history seems no better than that of his grammar. John Wilkes Booth was killed when he was killed in a barn fire set by his pursuers.

pipefitter
09-24-2005, 02:02 PM
You couldn't pay me to go to the keys these days.Between the much too frequent stops by the marine patrol wildlife officers and all the clueless crowd like the ones that ran over our dive flag last time we went for bugs was enough to tell me.Now I just work on their boats and dont venture out of Tampa bay.Last time I was by tortugas was in 79 and went to the keys once after that and you wont ever catch me out on the water around here on the weekends. My employer knows to give me a day during the week. I never heard the fort by it's name but as just "the fort". I do remember where you are talking about and I still eat grits. smile.gif

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Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
09-24-2005, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Rick Tyler:
Southerners: We love grits. Yankees are dumb!

Northerners: Grits stink. Southerners are dumb!

Westerners: Suns up. Grills on. Have a beer!

- Rick
Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
Shhhhhhh deep dark secret ... this New Yawker loves grits with cheese. YUM :D

ThomNC
09-24-2005, 03:25 PM
Grits is groceries. Shrimp n grits is hote cuisinee y'all.
Thom from below the Mason Dixon Line (4 miles)

ThomNC
09-24-2005, 03:26 PM
Grits is groceries. Shrimp n grits is hote cuisinee y'all.
Thom from below the Mason Dixon Line (4 miles)

pipefitter
09-24-2005, 03:50 PM
Grits and greens and all that other good stuff.Swamp cabbage boiled peanuts....c'mon...it dont get any better than that.Mullet and grits.I have lived off of that stuff.Never can recall being hungry here.If you can't buy it you can catch it. Wild hog,smoked mullet and a keg of beer.Who, no matter where they are from can argue with that?
These people down here know how to live. smile.gif

paladin
09-24-2005, 04:00 PM
when I wuz a lil critter I would run behind my mom and grandmother in the woods while they picked poke salat and wild onions, blackberries and such.....my grandpappy would fish fer catfish on the Arkansas river....once in a while bring home a couple of fat rattlesnakes, wabbits and such.....never like poke..but fried rattler izz good eatin'.......later...I would chase the deer and razorbacks and if'n I could see the critter it wuz lunch....green onions, fresh desert peaches and blackberry cobbler...yum...

joejapan
09-24-2005, 07:51 PM
Pipefitter, you're right, I haven't been down to the Keys in a long time. (Except, to work with the boys using "Fat Albert".) So long ago, in fact, there were no gays at all, you had to be careful chasin' women 'cause of the "Conchs", and big grouper were not at all hard to find.

I've always loved the Keys, musta' taken a thousand photos down there. I have only a few photos that survived Katrina. I had put some of my stuff on cd's for convenience so I still have them, but not many.

I have a few photos of a 328 lb. Jewfish that I speared when I was young and dumb. He almost cost me an arm. I also found a Giant Black Sea Bass living in the exhaust stack of a freighter and speared him using an aircraft inner tube and tow rope;got smart. I can remember he was bigger than the Jewfish but I don't remember his exact weight. I have been told that all the big ones are gone and that it's illegal to spear them.

Do the big ol' wooden shrimp boats still come in down your way? In the Keys,I remember them draggin' boards that were as big a barn doors. I met Mexican, Cuban, Bahamian,and even British Honduran shrimpers before the U.S. stopped them from fishing down there. Met some nice people.

I think they all loved grits ! ! ! !

Kermit
09-24-2005, 09:18 PM
Haggis, lads! No that's fine eating!

pipefitter
09-24-2005, 09:27 PM
Still plenty of the big wood shrimpers around Tarpon Springs. I imagine they are still pretty abundant elsewhere down the coast as well.After the lengthy red tide we had this year the shrimp ought to be large here real soon. In Englewood we used to catch them with a dip net and a lantern from the bridge on Lemon Bay. I used to catch upwards of 100 dozen on an all nighter. Fun growing up doing all that kind of stuff. No wonder I never got in much trouble as a youth.Fortunately for me,my sons have the same interests as I did.The oldest one has fishing in his blood and patiently waiting for my boat to be done.They like grits too. smile.gif
Sorry to hear about your loss in that storm but atleast you have a few left.One of the owners of where I work has a home down on Deer Key and even with free use of the place I still wont go.Maybe the hurricanes will clean the keys out of the crowds that have taken over.

joejapan
09-24-2005, 09:46 PM
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I hear you pipefitter! Sounds like great minds think alike.....maybe it's the gettin' older that does it.

When paladin and you were talking about all that food and cookin', I was thinkin' " Damn, I thought we were the only ones that ate that stuff." Later,that "stuff" became fashionable as "Soul Food", neh?

Would you believe that the Japanese have really nice blue and tabby catfish, but they won't eat 'em; too ugly. They have lots of mullet but they won't eat mullet; doesn't taste "fresh".Yet they love those slimy green eels in the river, go figure.

My girlfriend likes grits and she has learned to make "butterbeans n' rice" for me. But, I got some black-eyed peas from the States and she.........
well, don't try black-eyed peas and CURRY !

pipefitter
09-24-2005, 09:56 PM
Y'all made me hungry talking about all that stuff too so tomorrow morning it is eggs,grits and bacon all mixed up.Funny thing about the Japanese not eatig mullet. One of the only fish with a gizzard.They had to ban the nets because the roe brought high$ to some other asian culture and they were getting slaughtered and dumped whole by the truck load.It has been sad to watch this once pristine place get exploited as it has.Anyone out there ever eat a fish called sheephead?

Next time I paint here in the next week I am going to try the grits on a piece of wood to see what it does.

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joejapan
09-24-2005, 10:49 PM
Yeah, it is funny that Japanese don't eat mullet. It's also funny that they'll fish like hell for bass (green trout) as a sport but won't eat bass. They have really big bull bream and red-bellied perch over here, but they won't eat them either. Yet they'll suck the eyeballs out of a darn carp.

Pipefitter, I know what you're talking about when you say sheepshead, but that's a regional term. They fish you're talking about is a sheepshead PORGY.

http://static.flickr.com/27/46275563_13fc063849.jpg?v=0
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A real sheepshead is from the Pacific Ocean in California and is a much larger black and red banded fish.

As a little kid (8-9-10years old)I used to spear sheepshead and put 'em on a stringer and go sell them to the African-Americans who loved them. Not too many other people ate them. Yet, they have good, really white meat.

We also didn't eat spadefish when I lived down there, but I've read in the Gulf Coast Fisherman that they're all the rage for eating now. I always thought they were mosty bones.

Oh yeah, you know those "silver eels", as we called them,(cutlass fish)and considered them as a trash fish?
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http://www.acfishing.com/fishid/CUTLASS1.jpg

Well, the Japanese love them and they're kinda' expensive when you can find them in the grocery store.

I guess it's as they say about "stuff": One man's junk is another man's treasure, neh ?

pipefitter
09-24-2005, 11:34 PM
Funny thing about sheephead is if you have friends over for a fish fry it is always the first to disappear off the plate.Makes one of the best fish sandwiches. I catch the hell out of them on fiddler crabs or oysters...oysters being the best bait for them.
Also have heard them called Sheepsteeth

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Paul Denison
09-25-2005, 07:59 PM
A good bowl of shrimp, grits, chives and bacon is hard to beat.

Wild Wassa
09-29-2005, 04:42 PM
I presume we are still talking about this food stuff that is used as an alternative to conventional anti-skids mixed in paint?

After reading what you guys mix with paint then, the bacon would give an interesting texture but the more progressive use a waterbased crosslinking pulverised rubber paint for bacon.

Eggs and bacon and prawns (shrimp) are food, I'll grant those. The rest sounds like they should be mixed with paint.

A native bird mix, 'birdseed', would probably do the same as grits mixed in paint and you can pick out the big sunflower seeds when you get hungry.

Warren.

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pipefitter
09-29-2005, 09:00 PM
People use nutshell for non skid and salt for non skid texture etc.Grits do absorb paint but you better not kneel on it when wearing shorts or worst yet fall on it. Might as well kneel down on crushed glass.It makes for some serious traction and I imagine it might do a number on some fancy lad's Sperry's.

Shrimperchuck
09-29-2005, 09:56 PM
What a Woss!