gooday

[nobby]

hello all,40 x20 foot ex pile barge takes water huon pine 6x2 running the 20 takes water slowly i am going to put a houseboat on it,60 odd 20 foot recaulkes to do or i have been investigating routing out rect strips and putting them in,funny sort of splining.any ideas am in fresh water harbour mostly.....strahan tas,,,,,,,,,,,,aust

[Thad Van Gilder]

wow, is that english?

-Thad

[Wild Dingo]

Originally posted by Thad Van Gilder:

wow, is that english?

-Thad

yeah... well... its sorta Aussie... nah actually its Tasweejian a totally different animal really... comes from the bottom of Aussie also known as "the pimple on the bum of Aussie"... some of these buggars are known to have 2 heads an they say the sheilas have 4 nipples and one on the bum too... but mate Im yet to see it... mind you... nah!! :D

Okay translation...


Originally posted by nobby:
hello all,

"Gidday yous mob"


Originally posted by nobby:
40 x20 foot ex pile barge

"Ive got a 40ft length x 20ft beam no draft given barge type boat"


Originally posted by nobby:
takes water

"leaks like a flamin seive"


Originally posted by nobby:
huon pine 6x2 running the 20

"Barge is made of Tasmanian Huon Pine (bloody great boatbuildin timber!) 6in x 2in boards running across the 20ft width for the length of barge" (ie: not fore an aft)


Originally posted by nobby:
takes water slowly

See leaks like a bloody seive comment above


Originally posted by nobby:
i am going to put a houseboat on it,

Im gonna whack a bloody great house on the barge


Originally posted by nobby:
60 odd 20 foot recaulkes to do

"theres a ****eload of work to do to recaulk this thing!!"


Originally posted by nobby:
or i have been investigating routing out rect strips and putting them in,

"I am thinking about gettin a router and routin out the caulkin and putting some strips in its place" (note here I did say hes Tasweejian didnt I? :D }


Originally posted by nobby:
funny sort of splining.

"its got some weird gunk as splines"


Originally posted by nobby:
any ideas

"Im totally confused and unable to wait for responses from Aussie boards so Im lookin to yous gurus for ideas"


Originally posted by nobby:
am in fresh water harbour mostly.....strahan tas,,,,,,,,,,,,aust"I am in a fresh water harbor that I intend to use the barge on ... mostly...
Strahan Tasmania Australia

He also has a lisp 2 heads and has trouble waitin... oh an hes confused!! I mean everyone knows that only 3 ... are needed and no ,,, cause it just confuses the US mob :rolleyes:

But hes a Tasweejian so be gentle

Note... and yes Nobby ala Bitofascallywag Im the same joker that you have had a run in with over on the Aussie board... get over it! tongue.gif

There yer go Thad all translated and neet as a button for yer!! :cool:

No no need to thank me mate yer welcome! ;)

[ 09-15-2005, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: Wild Dingo ]

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

:D beautiful Dingo beautiful :D :D :D

[ 09-15-2005, 11:43 AM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

[Chadd Hamilton]

Exellent, Shane :D

[Bob Smalser]

Depends on the condition of the seams. Can you provide a pic?

2x6 crossplanks 20' long, right?

Check the plank fasteners, first to make sure they are in good condition and tight. They alone can cause leaks.

If the plank edges butt each other tightly on the inside of the hull and the fasteners and wood in the caulking seams are in good condition, then recaulking will probably be sufficient. If what's at the bottom of those seams now is black goo, then it needs to come out, first. If it still looks like cotton and oakum, then it may just need tightening up with more oakum added as required to fill the seam.

If you have to reef out the seams, then recaulk by soaking the seams in boiled linseed (gets sticky and helps hold the cotton) followed by cotton followed by poison oil-based paint (copper or lead), followed by oakum to fill the seam followed by oil-based putty.

Get an experienced caulker locally to show you how to do it.....pay him if you have to....it's not difficult, but takes some "touch" to avoid splitting out the back of the plank while getting cotton tightly into the seam bottom....it's mostly just a lot of hard work.

Besides materials, for a simple flatbottom barge hull you'll probably just need a threading iron, a making iron and a large, 16" mallet. The threading iron is fairly sharp and is used to tap the cotton in tight to the seam bottom by tapping parallel to the bevels of the plank edges. The thicker making iron is used to then pound the cotton tight, and pound in the oakum atop it to fill the seam just below the edge, leaving enough space for the putty.

If the seams are open on the back and the hull has recently been in the water, then you can also add cedar wedges to help fill the seam while recaulking without using any glue at all...the caulking and seam compound will hold them in nicely.

I'd avoid routing and gluing where I could....a solution for hopelessly ragged plank seams....it's a lot more work than what I described and you will have to caulk anyway, as the wedge is only glued to one plank. Gluing seam wedges into both plank edges will likely eventually cause one or more planks to split when the hull is hauled and dried out, and I wouldn't.

[ 09-15-2005, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

[Wild Dingo]

Now Bobs on the ball you will be right sonshine!... As he says pics would be good Nobby ala bitofascallywag... if you dont know how to do it... sigh... email them to me an I will whack em up for you :rolleyes:

Or you could look around for a post on the subjeck by one Norm Messinger which will set you to rights on how to do it... but that may be a bit of a trial so just email em and I'll whack em up for you no worries

Heck!! I will even toss em up on that other board for you never know an Aussie may well answer you eh?? tongue.gif Strewth wouldnt that be a bloody bobby dazzler of a thing :eek: But then you might have to wait a bit an well the Yanks are awake now an well weve got their attention havent we?...

mmmm better yet maybe you should just email em to ol Bob up there an then he can either whack em up here himself or just answer you direct an no need for anymore postin an such eh? ;)

[nedL]

You came through again Shane! :D As Bob said, sounds like a pretty standard caulking job if things are in good shape (but quite miserable underneath a flat bottom barge).

[Bob Smalser]

Originally posted by nedL:
You came through again Shane! :D As Bob said, sounds like a pretty standard caulking job if things are in good shape (but quite miserable underneath a flat bottom barge).I count 1560 feet of caulking at 100' a day....that's 16 or more work days, not including any reefing, making the creeper to lay on and the chiropractor bills to repair your shoulders. ;)

[ 09-15-2005, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

[nobby]

well thanks for all the help,i promise not to get on the forums again whilst under the "beer" influence,dingo u should be doing stand up comedy,sounds like its time to give the shoulders a workout,

[joejapan]

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nobby, don't be making any promises you can't keep !

Besides, this place is a helluva' lot more fun if you've had a few. Just ask Dingo....I never knew he drank 'till I saw him sober one time.

[Wild Dingo]

Now Joe enough of leadin the young fella astray! You know full well mate I dont drink... well since guzzlin came in that is :rolleyes:

But see Nobby mate what I knew would happen did... once understandin of yer accent was made clear to these septic tank fellas :eek: ;) and they had some idea of what yer were wafflin on about... they came outta the woodwork!!

Great place to get help mate... see well it is!! Even if at times we dont get along so well we do know how to get the other dopey buggars to pipe in with the right responses! See that how once Id made the translation old Bob wandered out and gave yer the response you needed? cause then he had to be bloody brutally honest and mention the chiropractor didnt he! :rolleyes: and well I knew that would prolly terrify the ****e outta yer well it sounds as scarey as a tassy devil on a binge an yer foots the only tucker for miles doesnt it! :eek: but no thats the doc that tends to crack yer bones you know?? mmmm hard even for me to translate that to Tasweejian let alone into 2 headed 4 nippled and one on the bum Tasweejin... ah well if you dont unnastan mate yer dont wannna!
tongue.gif

Thanks Bob :cool: ... although Im thinkin I may have to translate your comments into Tasweejian for the poor wee buggar... and I can have a right debil of a time doin that I can tell yer... do yer mind ol son? I mean if he young Nobby ala bitofascallywag needs it that is?... bein as hes one of them 2 headed sons of a 4 nippled one on the bum sheilas that is he would have to take the next fortnight to get a grip on the first sentance you muttered :D

[Bob Smalser]

Originally posted by Wild Dingo:
... although Im thinkin I may have to translate your comments into Tasweejian for the poor wee buggar... and I can have a right debil of a time doin that I can tell yer... do yer mind ol son? :D If it were me facing 16 days on a creeper pounding upwards, I'd prefer a helping hand to a translation. ;)

Dave Fleming likes these jobs up higher....on at least 55gal drums so the mallet can be swung underhand. That way only your neck needs surgery afterwards instead of both shoulders. ;)

[ 09-16-2005, 01:54 AM: Message edited by: Bob Smalser ]

[Wild Dingo]

True Bob... and mate Id be right there to help him out... if Tassy wasnt so ruddy far away! bloody long road trip to Melborne (shudder) then a boat trip to the pimple on the bum down there then another road trip to his place... fair whack of miles ol mate doable I guess but what her highness would say if I said "oi spunkbubble I gotta buggar of to Tassy to help out a 2 headed son of a 4 nippled sheila to fix up an old barge" I dont want to even guess at... I think though that me days would be seriously numbered :eek: specially since it would be a workin trip so her highness the loverly possumpoop an the hoonberrys couldnt come! ;)

Still hes posted on the Aussie woodworkers forum and there are numerous Tasweejians who frequent that one... (yep 2 headed ones too!! :D ) if he has some patience and a bit less of the attitude he will get some help without a worry some are already showing interest in his project

Helps there if he wants it... but he also has to be able to accept help when offered and wait for comments and opinions thoughts ideas etc to come before critizing eh?

Tasweejians eh :rolleyes:

[nobby]

well fellows,im going to flip the old girl over and caulk it that way,with knee pads on.

[Wild Dingo]

I do thunk the message sunk in :D

Now about those pics...

[Nicholas Carey]

Originally posted by Wild Dingo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Thad Van Gilder:

wow, is that english?

-Thad

yeah... well... its sorta Aussie... nah actually its Tasweejian a totally different animal really... comes from the bottom of Aussie also known as "the pimple on the bum of Aussie"... some of these buggars are known to have 2 heads an they say the sheilas have 4 nipples and one on the bum too... but mate Im yet to see it... mind you... nah!! :D

Okay translation...</font>[/QUOTE]So...is that a translation into Aussie or Dingo lingo? :D

[nobby]

well as she has about 4 feet draught the barge is slowly filled,1 or 2 boats pull her over,air is pumped in and voila an upside down barge 3 to 6 spars are layed down at waters edge,a block and tackle is arranged maybe 6 to 1 then hopefully i can tow her up,let her dry and go to work,we are still in the wilderness to a certain extent so it saves on slip fees etc,but then as summer is just round the corner it may open right up and as im caulking i put too much in,she reenters the water swells again splits planks etc,etc,

[DrakeChristensen]

im going to flip the old girl over and caulk it that way,with knee pads onNow this kind of talk needs no translation...when you get that done you can turn your attention to the boat...

[nobby]

thanks dave,good stuff and ive got three boats waiting and ive got j.lee hooker siging blues but he dont know boats a im going head banging now cause i used to like it but now it comes down to a bit of guts iguess

[nobby]

im a going out of this,but not forgetting a big no no so i will say thank you very much bob. ian dingo and everyoneelsew and yes im drinking again japanjoe and if you dont like it you all bassh it up your arse