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Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-18-2009, 09:12 PM
Saw this little diddy while sailing this evening.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/fosterhere/photo-646.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/fosterhere/photo-771.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/fosterhere/photo-1383.jpg

Anyone got a clue. Looks like a nice '70 design Seems like shes got a wood mast deck and cabin, transom, but I think the hull is glass.
If I had to guess I would say some kind of Cheoy Lee

John B
05-18-2009, 09:14 PM
Difficult to steer would be my first guess.

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-18-2009, 09:17 PM
Difficult to steer would be my first guess.

:D Tiller in the cockpit

Bob Cleek
05-18-2009, 09:19 PM
Definitely no a Cheoy Lee. Anything else from me would be a guess. There's something a bit "Sparkman and Stephens" about her, but she could be anything, really. Particularly beamy and with a correspondingly high aspect double spreader "slutter" rig. With that rig, one might suspect J. Laurent Giles, but he is also known for characteristically narrow beamed boat. I can't recall a "punkin' seed" among his designs.

The mystery continues!

John B
05-18-2009, 09:24 PM
:D Tiller in the cockpit

Rilly ?, It looks like it has its wheel popped off for access going by the pedestal. ah well, A bit of redundancy never did no harm as they say.

Always makes me laugh , if I only had a buck for the times people have asked me ' how do you steer this boat ?' (because I take the tiller off at anchor and at the marina.)

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-18-2009, 09:32 PM
Rilly ?, It looks like it has its wheel popped off for access going by the pedestal. ah well, A bit of redundancy never did no harm as they say.

Always makes me laugh , if I only had a buck for the times people have asked me ' how do you steer this boat ?' (because I take the tiller off at anchor and at the marina.)

Ya know I think your correct, it might have been a wooden boat hook cause it does look like a wheel popped off at the binical

JimConlin
05-18-2009, 11:51 PM
Ohlson?

TimH
05-19-2009, 12:27 AM
looks scandinavian to me. Ikea?

The Bigfella
05-19-2009, 03:39 AM
No worries steering that. Have Vicegrips, have steering.

I take the external wheel off Grantala when she's at the mooring. I do seem to recall casting off once without having fitted it... but... twin props, no worries.

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-19-2009, 07:11 AM
Well I thought fer sure you all would know this classy little sloop.

I have to say I really like her lines the port lights are a little to '70's for me but they work with the overall look. The little overhang and wooden transom is classy. The coming and the winch blocks are just big and cool. I don't know how she is laid out below but looks to me like a sensible little cruiser, and just enough wood to class her up.

Wiley Baggins
05-19-2009, 10:24 AM
http://www.hallberg-rassy.com/mistral/hr33-mistral.shtml

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-19-2009, 10:31 AM
http://www.hallberg-rassy.com/mistral/hr33-mistral.shtml

Close but she cabin is a bit off and there are only one large port and starboard winches.

TimH
05-19-2009, 11:14 AM
That boat was designed by someone who knew what a proper boat should look like, but could not resist the temptation to modernize it a bit - thus screwing it up.

ron ll
05-19-2009, 12:04 PM
I think there might be something to your Cheoy Lee guess. Something about the shape of that cabin. And Cheoy Lee went thru a lot of metamorphosis between wood and glass in those days.

Figment
05-19-2009, 12:54 PM
I think Jim is close, if not right on, with his Ohlson guess. Those are hard to pin down because the cabins and even the transoms were done differently at different times.

I can't quite make out the name. Tiger what?

I wish the sheer wasn't so flat, but otherwise she's a looker.

Damn, EVERYTHING looks better without lifelines!

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-19-2009, 03:25 PM
I agree with you on the sheer and the lifelines.

TimH
05-19-2009, 03:28 PM
I see a stern and bow pulpit, but no stanchions or lifelines.

G.Sherman
05-19-2009, 03:34 PM
Tiger Maru.... ala PhotoShop.

TimH
05-19-2009, 03:47 PM
http://www.vagebond.net/Wallpapers/17_1280.jpg

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-19-2009, 04:08 PM
Tim THATS IT !!!
What is that ? Looks even cooler under sail OOOOOFA baby :D

Wiley Baggins
05-19-2009, 10:07 PM
Tim THATS IT !!!
What is that ? Looks even cooler under sail OOOOOFA baby :D

Well, since my hip shot Mistral didn't win me the kewpie doll, I'll add (based on the photo detective work of others) that it's a 37' Laurent Giles design - http://www.antiguaclassics.com/06%20Docs/Race%20Diary.pdf. That means two things 1) the plans are likely available, and 2) it will probably cost you quite a bit of folding money to acquire them.

Figment
05-20-2009, 09:27 AM
Ah, so those grommets in the toerail are sheet leads! I was wondering about those.

That genny needs a re-cut!

John B
05-20-2009, 03:29 PM
Ah, so those grommets in the toerail are sheet leads! I was wondering about those.

That genny needs a re-cut!

and an adjustable fairlead.

Bob Cleek
05-20-2009, 04:50 PM
AHA! So my instincts were right! Yep, the rig was the giveaway. The double spreader "slutter" rig (headstay and forestay tacked at the stem) is a Giles trademark. So's the flat or reverse sheer in many of his post-war lightly constructed racing designs. Although they aren't as easy on the eyes as his prewar boats, they were great racing boats. (Not because of the sheer, obviously, but because of their lightweight construction... Giles worked on wooden airframe design during the War and carried the technology into his hull construction thereafter.)

I'm sure the plans are indeed available. Tell Barry Van Geffen at Giles I sent ya. They offer very reasonably priced study plans and generally will also provide reasonably priced copies of specific plan sheets. What's costly is not the plans, but the "license to build" or royalty you fairly pay for the privilege of building a Giles designed boat. I've gotten full plan sets for "Dyarchy" less the offsets for a few hundred bucks, with an agreement only to build a model, not the full sized vessel. I've gotten selected plan sheets for my Vertue gratis, since I already own a Giles vessel. It's sort of like owning a Rolls Royce. No matter how long ago your Giles boat was built, they still remember you!

http://www.laurentgiles.co.uk/

http://www.boatworld.com/index.html?sub=Laurent-Giles

Wiley Baggins
05-20-2009, 06:05 PM
I'm sure the plans are indeed available... What's costly is not the plans, but the "license to build" or royalty you fairly pay for the privilege of building a Giles designed boat.


Thanks, that's good information Bob Cleek.

Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
05-28-2010, 08:06 PM
Update : I've become friendly with the owner pretty remarkable guy. Hell of a sailor raced her down in the Carib and has her hauled out on his front lawn. Just a couple of days ago I passed by and her whole bow was opened up and the cockpit removed. In a few days he had two of the three layers on and getting ready to final plank. He is amazingly fearless and acurate in how he works. A real salty boat guy. He's agreed to give a hand on Tidbit next week and Ill help on his if he needs a hand. even on the hard she's a real looker.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/fosterhere/a2d44794.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/fosterhere/6f5d36fc.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/fosterhere/81ea1f59.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/fosterhere/ebdacfef.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/fosterhere/574d7ab9.jpg

Rich VanValkenburg
05-29-2010, 11:25 AM
Much said about the lack of a wheel, but makes common sense that it's a good means of anti-theft.

amish rob
05-29-2010, 02:14 PM
He had to remove the wheel to get in the cockpit. Guys like this (yeah, I rebuilt my classic wooden sailboat on my front lawn) invariably have a good set of brass...
Seems like a good guy to make friends with.